Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

seligehgit · 31-07-2013 05:49PM

Astala wrote: »

The season ticket holders have now been allocated their seats.

Just wondering though-how do they decide where we sit in the actual section? Do those who buy their GAA Season tickets early get seats closer to the pitch?

Had a look at the Croke Park map,could have rewarded the season ticket holders with better seats.

yop · 31-07-2013 05:55PM

naughto wrote: »

they must be sick of the smell of dirthy nickers of ya:pac::pac:

I told u before, I don't wear any

davegrohl48 · 31-07-2013 06:08PM

Few tactical musings:
Mayo tactics:
- If McHugh plays I would mark him with Colm Boyle who is very pacy and hard tackling. But different than usual Boyle should follow McHugh back into his own half of the pitch.
- The ideal sweeper for Mayo is Richie Feeney, has the height and is steady when in posession
- SOS/AOS should continue their tactic of switching attack/defence.

Donegal tactics:
- Donegal should try and hit long ball over the Mayo half backline.
- Their ideal full forward formation I see as:
McBrearty as a ball winner wide out in the corner one on one. He should take on his man at every opportunity early in the game to force the inevitable yellow card, win kickable frees and open up opportunities for Murphy/McFadden.
Murphy should be planted close to the Mayo goal creating nervous situation for Hennely.
McFadden I would play on the 21 stationed between Murphy and McFadden. Donegal would play with three in the full forward but all three are within a solo and handpass from each other. Now any Donegal full forward has a guarantee of one of the three of them being available for a layoff.
- Starting out with the tactic of sending long ball into their full forwards Donegal should be prepared for Mayo counter attacks. McGloughlin needs to be man marked closely.The left wing needs extra coverage. Force Mayo to attack up the right flank where they are not as comfortable.
- Donegal should be brave to allow McGee do a lot of counter attacking from full back. If he sits back there all the time it suits Freeman. If he counter attacks Freeman has to try and contain a very physical back further out from goal. It could dent his confidence to be on the backfoot like that. Also McGee is well able to power through the Mayo forwards.

Astala · 31-07-2013 06:08PM

seligehgit wrote: »

Had a look at the Croke Park map,could have rewarded the season ticket holders with better seats.

Sure we're in the double letter areas for the most part. I'd much prefer the early single letters!

downthemiddle · 31-07-2013 06:17PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Well someone had to put Jimmy in his place about his physicality whinge over the weekend and seeing as Horan and Mayo were up next it for them they were the ones to do it.

Rawhead wrote: »

If he ends up playing then 1 or a combination of all the below things is true,

1. The injury was over egged (although the 2 nights in hospital makes me doubt this)
2. The GAA needs to implement a urgent and radical PED screening policy
3. JMcG is just stirring things up.

If all the players who missed out on winter training due to injury are 100% then the whole point of winter strength and conditioning has been debunked.

What a pathetic and libellous post. An absolute disgrace.

ColeTrain · 31-07-2013 06:29PM

harpsman wrote: »

Fair enough-im sure you ll win by a few on Sunday and reach final too id say- just make sure you dont flop(again) when you get there;)

So Mayo flopped against donegal last year? Are you saying Mayo were the better team.

Fr Tod Umptious · 31-07-2013 06:33PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

What a pathetic and libellous post. An absolute disgrace.

Which one ?

downthemiddle · 31-07-2013 06:34PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Which one ?

The insinuation by Rawhead that PEDs are part of Donegal's preparations for this game.

ColeTrain · 31-07-2013 06:37PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

The insinuation by Rawhead that PEDs are part of Donegal's preparations for this game.

Jimmys winning drug tests

Rawhead · 31-07-2013 06:51PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

What a pathetic and libellous post. An absolute disgrace.

What's disgraceful about it? Are you not in the slightest bit concerned that a player that required 3 days and 2 nights in hospital for concussion, a perforated eardrum and a large tear in his hamstring is being mentioned as starting an All Ireland quarter final 14 days after suffering these injuries.
This is is not a dig against McHugh, it's just medical logic and would equally apply to any player who suffered these injuries.

downthemiddle · 31-07-2013 06:55PM

Rawhead wrote: »

What's disgraceful about it? Are you not in the slightest bit concerned that a player that required 3 days and 2 nights in hospital for concussion, a perforated eardrum and a large tear in his hamstring is being mentioned as starting an All Ireland quarter final 14 days after suffering these injuries.
This is is not a dig against McHugh, it's just medical logic and would equally apply to any player who suffered these injuries.

McHugh is not in the starting team.

Rawhead · 31-07-2013 07:08PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

McHugh is not in the starting team.

Surprise. If you took the first post for what it was, then it was obvious that I wasn't accusing McHugh or any player/team of taking drugs. It was rumour talk by Donegal and people need to relax a little.

downthemiddle · 31-07-2013 07:17PM

Rawhead wrote: »

Surprise. If you took the first post for what it was, then it was obvious that I wasn't accusing McHugh or any player/team of taking drugs. It was rumour talk by Donegal and people need to relax a little.

So just to clarify, if McHugh does make an appearance on Sunday you believe that PEDs have played a role in his recovery.

km79 · 31-07-2013 07:19PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

So just to clarify, if McHugh does make an appearance on Sunday you believe that PEDs have played a role in his recovery.

How would Viagra help him recover ?

Rawhead · 31-07-2013 07:39PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

So just to clarify, if McHugh does make an appearance on Sunday you believe that PEDs have played a role in his recovery.

If McHugh makes an appearance on Sunday then he has some amazing recovery powers, Donegal has the best medical team in the country and he is the toughest bastard since Chuck Norris.

Just to clarify with yourself, you see nothing remarkable in a amateur sportman recovering from "a 5 centimeter tear, not millimeter, centimeter tear in his quadriceps muscle, a perforated eardrum and a major concussion" (these are Jim McGuinness words) in 14 days?

Syferus · 31-07-2013 07:53PM

Rawhead wrote: »

If McHugh makes an appearance on Sunday then he has some amazing recovery powers, Donegal has the best medical team in the country and he is the toughest bastard since Chuck Norris.

Just to clarify with yourself, you see nothing remarkable in a amateur sportman recovering from "a 5 centimeter tear, not millimeter, centimeter tear in his quadriceps muscle, a perforated eardrum and a major concussion" (these are Jim McGuinness words) in 14 days?

Where exactly does intimating even in the slightest way that McHugh is on PEDs come into this? Even if (let's play the if game) McHugh was doping himself to high heaven no amount of drugs that would fix a concussion or repair a 5cm tear within 14 days.

It was an utterly ridiculous thing to even broach, even if (and I've giving you the benefit of the doubt that the intimation doesn't deserve) it was a failed attempt at being glib.

SomethingElse · 31-07-2013 07:54PM

km79 wrote: »

How would Viagra help him recover ?

If he does come on he'll certainly be up for it

Rawhead · 31-07-2013 09:14PM

Syferus wrote: »

Where exactly does intimating even in the slightest way that McHugh is on PEDs come into this? Even if (let's play the if game) McHugh was doping himself to high heaven no amount of drugs that would fix a concussion or repair a 5cm tear within 14 days.

It was an utterly ridiculous thing to even broach, even if (and I've giving you the benefit of the doubt that the intimation doesn't deserve) it was a failed attempt at being glib.

That's been my f*~king point all along. He was never going to start and to even think so was ludicrous.
On a similar note, good word from Ballybrit that Shergar is a sure starter in the Plate tomorrow.........

Rawhead · 31-07-2013 09:28PM

Sorry about dragging the thread so off course. I'll start a seperate thread on the subject of PED's in sport and GAA in particular.
Mayo to win by 4/5 points.

naughto · 31-07-2013 10:17PM

any one else think CC is in for a tough game on sunday will donegal aim for his shounder

km79 · 31-07-2013 10:18PM

naughto wrote: »

any one else think CC is in for a tough game on sunday will donegal aim for his shounder

No as I'm sure Jimmy's "duty of care " extends to all the amateur sportsmen on the field on Sunday ....... ðŸ˜œðŸ˜œðŸ˜œ
Seriously yes.

yop · 31-07-2013 10:19PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

What a pathetic and libellous post. An absolute disgrace.

Libellous... you do understand how libel works don't you :rolleyes:

Some Donegal lads are getting awful uptight about this with McHugh.
He isn't named, though these days very little can be believed when teams are named mid week.

naughto · 31-07-2013 10:25PM

km79 wrote: »

No as I'm sure Jimmy's "duty of care " extends to all the amateur sportsmen on the field on Sunday ....... ðŸ˜œðŸ˜œðŸ˜œ
Seriously yes.

as far as iam concerned jimmy can shove his"duty of care" up his h0XXl
i want us to hit as hard if not harder than donegal.
let them see we are not to be messed with.

downthemiddle · 31-07-2013 10:28PM

yop wrote: »

Libellous... you do understand how libel works don't you :rolleyes:

Some Donegal lads are getting awful uptight about this with McHugh.
He isn't named, though these days very little can be believed when teams are named mid week.

Yes it is defamation by written or printed word.
Rawhead has insinuated that Mark McHugh could only make an appearance on Sunday if he was using PEDs. If he plays at any stage on Sunday are we to conclude, fron Rawhead's post, that Mark McHugh was using PEDs.
If not then we are entering the grounds of defamation and libel.

yop · 31-07-2013 10:40PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

Yes it is defamation by written or printed word.
Rawhead has insinuated that Mark McHugh could only make an appearance on Sunday if he was using PEDs. If he plays at any stage on Sunday are we to conclude, fron Rawhead's post, that Mark McHugh was using PEDs.
If not then we are entering the grounds of defamation and libel.

Nope, you are been an ubber sensitive Donegal fan, just like Jimmys "whinging" matches. Get out your law books and iterate to libel. He inferred that the GAA should implement an urgent and radical PED screening policy. This as you can see didn't directly refer or imply to McHugh, also as you may see further down the thread he apologised for taking the thread off topic, since the topic was discussing McHughs "injury", then this would conclude that the topic, which included McHugh, wasn't linking McHugh to PED's.
Again this was directly applying to the GAA and not directly applying to or insinuating that McHugh requires a "PED screening policy".

Again if you go through his posts, it wasn't referring to McHugh.

If the lad had concussion and a 4cm tear, how do you think this was remedied? Was it by natural methods per chance? Would you not agree that drugs were used to improve his chances of recovery?

Neeson · 31-07-2013 10:48PM

yop wrote: »

Again if you go through his posts, it wasn't referring to McHugh.

Didn't he say that if McHugh appears we can take 3 scenarios from it or something like that - one was the PED thing! Not much odds to me but why would you need to bring up PEDS along with McHugh making an appearance there and then unless your referring to him using it?

Add to that that some of them chaps are massively built and McHugh is of slight build makes it seem even more like he was insinuating that.

Anywho. What odds. Probably shouldn't have said that in the same post as McHughs.

downthemiddle · 31-07-2013 10:50PM

yop wrote: »

Nope, you are been an ubber sensitive Donegal fan, just like Jimmys "whinging" matches. Get out your law books and iterate to libel. He inferred that the GAA should implement an urgent and radical PED screening policy. This as you can see didn't directly refer or imply to McHugh, also as you may see further down the thread he apologised for taking the thread off topic, since the topic was discussing McHughs "injury", then this would conclude that the topic, which included McHugh, wasn't linking McHugh to PED's.
Again this was directly applying to the GAA and not directly applying to or insinuating that McHugh requires a "PED screening policy".

Again if you go through his posts, it wasn't referring to McHugh.

If the lad had concussion and a 4cm tear, how do you think this was remedied? Was it by natural methods per chance? Would you not agree that drugs were used to improve his chances of recovery?

So now you are unaware of the difference between prescription drugs and PEDs. This discussion is pointless when you are displaying such a lack of knowledge.

yop · 31-07-2013 10:52PM

Neeson wrote: »

Didn't he say that if McHugh appears we can take 3 scenarios from it or something like that - one was the PED thing! Not much odds to me but why would you need to bring up PEDS along with McHugh making an appearance there and then unless your referring to him using it?

Add to that that some of them chaps are massively built and McHugh is of slight build makes it seem even more like he was insinuating that.

Anywho. What odds. Probably shouldn't have said that in the same post as McHughs.

The 2nd point was thrown into a post where McHughs name was mentioned, but again it wasn't a directly, indirect or inferred way.
Some lads get ubber sensitive about things, we can see some of the Donegal lads are reverting to whinging about their players getting hit too much and now "libelous" posts. Shame those who dish it now can't take it.
Win with dignity and take a defeat with dignity. Since the Monaghan loss, some Donegal lads have lost the later.

naughto · 31-07-2013 10:53PM

if McHugh does make an apperance then i would take it that donegal are in trouble and that we are in control of the game.

yop · 31-07-2013 10:56PM

downthemiddle wrote: »

So now you are unaware of the difference between prescription drugs and PEDs. This discussion is pointless when you are displaying such a lack of knowledge.

Absolutely know the difference, it was pointless the minute you brought up libel, you have demonstrated your lack of knowledge of law going down the "libel" route.
The "Libel" card is usually thrown when those don't like what they read.

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