Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

speedboatchase · 30-07-2013 10:53PM

HazDanz wrote: »

He needs to hand in a transfer request. Until that happens I think fcuk all will happen.

I don't think he will. Crazy as it sounds, tomorrow's Mail reckons Spurs will bid for him if a Bale deal goes through :-/

In any case, we need to move to a new target. This is getting embarrassing.

tayto lover · 30-07-2013 10:55PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

I don't think he will. Crazy as it sounds, tomorrow's Mail reckons Spurs will bid for him if a Bale deal goes through :-/

In any case, we need to move to a new target. This is getting embarrassing.

Spurs are not in the CL.
They have enough to worry about at the minute anyway.

HazDanz · 30-07-2013 10:57PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

I don't think he will. Crazy as it sounds, tomorrow's Mail reckons Spurs will bid for him if a Bale deal goes through :-/

In any case, we need to move to a new target. This is getting embarrassing.

I don't think so either. Liverpool have all the power in the situation now it seems so putting a bid of 50 mil in would probable need to be the next step if we keep wanting to go down the rabbit hole to turn Liverpool's head.

At least it feels like this is coming to a head a little bit now either way.

EDIT: Spurs getting Suarez will not happen. A real step to the side for the lad

speedboatchase · 30-07-2013 10:57PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Spurs are not in the CL.
They have enough to worry about at the minute anyway.

There isn't a hope of them getting him obv. They might get Modric though; The Times is saying that Spurs will sell if he's included in a deal.

tayto lover · 30-07-2013 10:59PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

There isn't a hope of them getting him obv. They might get Modric though; The Times is saying that Spurs will sell if he's included in a deal.

United are in for Modric.

ulinbac · 30-07-2013 10:59PM

Supposedly in for Alexis Sanchez now instead of Suarez. Says were competing with Spuds (as usual).

http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/premier-league/29139-spurs-and-arsenal-ready-for-sanchez-bidding-war.php

speedboatchase · 30-07-2013 11:01PM

tayto lover wrote: »

United are in for Modric.

Yeah that's what Times were saying yesterday although if Spurs want Modric, Real might refuse offers from any other clubs right now.

Marty McFly · 30-07-2013 11:04PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

Yeah that's what Times were saying yesterday although if Spurs want Modric, Real might refuse offers from any other clubs right now.

Come on do you really think Modric would move back to Spurs a club he wanted out of for a while before he was given the chance?

A player who United are after there no chance Modric would agree to that, or it will happen how often do you see player plus money deals actually happening?Very rarely but papers love to make them up.

dvemail · 30-07-2013 11:08PM

This has to be the worst summer in recent memory for papers making up serious amounts of crap.
Pulling stories out their holes every day. Worse than the weatherman for getting things right.

HazDanz · 30-07-2013 11:10PM

dvemail wrote: »

This has to be the worst summer in recent memory for papers making up serious amounts of crap.
Pulling stories out their holes every day. Worse than the weatherman for getting things right.

The boys must have some laugh making up half of the stuff. I know I would.

djPSB · 30-07-2013 11:10PM

Are Arsenal going to sign anyone at all.

Linked with Rooney, Higuain, Suarez etc. all summer and still nothing done.

speedboatchase · 30-07-2013 11:31PM

dvemail wrote: »

This has to be the worst summer in recent memory for papers making up serious amounts of crap.
Pulling stories out their holes every day. Worse than the weatherman for getting things right.

The truth hurts. The story tonight is nearly identical in the Guardian, Telegraph and Mirror, so all of the papers had the same Liverpool contact. There's clearly some truth in it. If you wanna talk about people making up serious amounts of crap, listen back to Gazidis and Wenger's quotes in May on our summer transfer plans.

dvemail · 30-07-2013 11:33PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

The truth hurts. The story tonight is nearly identical in the Guardian, Telegraph and Mirror, so all of the papers had the same Liverpool contact. There's clearly some truth in it. If you wanna talk about people making up serious amounts of crap, listen back to Gazidis and Wenger's quotes in May on our summer transfer plans.

That is true thus far but i won't pass judgement until the transfer window closes. I still feel we will strengthen in a few areas.

speedboatchase · 30-07-2013 11:34PM

djPSB wrote: »

Are Arsenal going to sign anyone at all.

Linked with Rooney, Higuain, Suarez etc. all summer and still nothing done.

Don't forget Jovetic, Cesar, Williams, Bender and Bernard.

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 30-07-2013 11:42PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

The truth hurts. The story tonight is nearly identical in the Guardian, Telegraph and Mirror, so all of the papers had the same Liverpool contact. There's clearly some truth in it. If you wanna talk about people making up serious amounts of crap, listen back to Gazidis and Wenger's quotes in May on our summer transfer plans.

Well it's true in that that is indeed what the Liverpool sources are saying. That's not to say it's not just Liverpool putting their spin on it.

Still, not really the most promising few days. There better be people working away quietly on other deals in the background, which is the norm for us in fairness with signings generally coming out of nowhere.

FearDark · 30-07-2013 11:43PM

The worst has to be Higuain going to Napoli for 32 mil. What did we bid in the end, 30 mil? Thats total BS, pay the price and buy the player. Spurs are after strengthening lots this transfer window, we are already behind Chelsea and Man City and to a lesser extent Utd. The absolute BS being spouted around here at times about City and Chelsea being "in transition" because they both have new managers, two PROVEN managers who will hit the ground running, as I see it we are already 4th or 5th. We need to strengthen and stop FANNYING around.

Marty McFly · 30-07-2013 11:44PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

The truth hurts. The story tonight is nearly identical in the Guardian, Telegraph and Mirror, so all of the papers had the same Liverpool contact. There's clearly some truth in it. If you wanna talk about people making up serious amounts of crap, listen back to Gazidis and Wenger's quotes in May on our summer transfer plans.

You I think your quickly over taking Button as the most negative poter in here :P.

Maybe it is true but it still doesn't mean we wont sign Suarez no were does it say that it just says the clause Arsenal and Suarez had hoped was true isn't.

Gazidis and Wenger's quotes may still hold out to be true once again I'll repeat what others have said the window is still open step away from the computer take a few deep breaths and relax judge Wenger and the club come September 1st.

30-07-2013 11:49PM

Could have gotten Higuain and Fellaini at this point for similar money for what Liverpool seem to be looking at for Suarez, some poor decisions have definitely been made.

Marty McFly · 30-07-2013 11:52PM

FearDark wrote: »

The worst has to be Higuain going to Napoli for 32 mil. What did we bid in the end, 30 mil? Thats total BS, pay the price and buy the player. Spurs are after strengthening lots this transfer window, we are already behind Chelsea and Man City and to a lesser extent Utd. The absolute BS being spouted around here at times about City and Chelsea being "in transition" because they both have new managers, two PROVEN managers who will hit the ground running, as I see it we are already 4th or 5th. We need to strengthen and stop FANNYING around.

Jesus this thread is becoming unbearable the amount of shiite being spouted is ridiculous, it become pretty clear on Higuain we had a deal in place then Madrid moved the goalposts and Arsenal done the rright thing and said fcuk you, and moved attention to Suarez that may or may yet pan out we don't know.

Proven managers what honours or clubs has Pellegrini led clubs to be exact? You have no idea if both teams will hit the ground running they may and may not one can only speculate and to say they will with certainty is nonsense. How have Spurs strengthened exactly? Madrid right now are currently chasing there best player and if the loose him they will more than likely be a weaker side.

Will people stop whinging like 5 year old school boys who's mommy just said no you can't have that ice cream now.

Come back and be negative whine bags in September if it's still the same but jesus give it a rest and lets see what the club can and will do before passing judgement.

wandatowell · 30-07-2013 11:53PM

Sanogo looks to be our only signing for the forward line this summer.

TBH Im now not too bothered about signing players for big money, I just want to see the squad improved upon with us having cover for for every position.

bad2dabone · 30-07-2013 11:53PM

FearDark wrote: »

The worst has to be Higuain going to Napoli for 32 mil. What did we bid in the end, 30 mil?.

30 million euros, our bid was reasonable Real played it well, practically all the cavani money has gone from napoli to Real.

Oranage2 · 31-07-2013 12:01AM

So far this window has thought me that dealing with both Madrid and Liverpool is a complete circus and that I hope we don't have to do any more dealings with them in the considerable future.

But on to the suarez affair, you can see why this bid has hurt Liverpool fans and why they've posted so much crap about arsenal recently like its not a real bid or it was just to sell season tickets. They like to think that the top 3 is cement and that they're a slight level below that with us, but just like the Rvp bid for us was a realisation that we're no longer a title competing side (although it was six plus years in the making so it was easier to take) this bid is a realisation of how mid table and just how far Liverpool are actually behind arsenal. If the twelve point gap wasn't a good indication all you have to do is look at the players, take for example ramsey, arsenals worst starter, now if you compare him to regular starters for Liverpool he is considerably better than Allen, henderson, downing and marginally better than Lucas. So basically, that's arsenals worst player is better than 40 percent of Liverpools outfield players. Huge difference in squad quality.

But I can't see arsenal going over 40 million for suarez and no doubt pool fans will consider this a mini victory. In my opinion arsenal would be right not to go over 40m, suarez has just had one exceptional season in a top flight league, just one. If this was his second or third season producing that type of form then yes he's worth the 50 million, but right now he's not. And not to mention the 'Luis suarez' factor too, this is a guy that's infamous for cheating, diving, stamping, hair pulling as well a biting and racial abuse, things that pool fans wrongly play of as a 'will to win', biting stamping etc isn't winning a game at any cost just like stamping and eye gauging isn't a will to win in rugby, its just tugish behaviour, plain and simple and I as a fan would not like to see a player playing for my team do these type of things.

Of course id like to have of a guy of his talent but do I want suarez, the simple answer Is not really especially for 40 plus million.

astonaidan · 31-07-2013 12:24AM

Regarding the Suarez transfer, I know ye guys would love it done but christ the lad cant play for 6 games in the league and I cant see ye needing to rely on him to get into the group stages of champions league.
So you can understand Wenger not trying to rush transfer through,
Personally I see ye getting him on transfer deadline day for 50million

Quazzie · 31-07-2013 12:29AM

astonaidan wrote: »

Regarding the Suarez transfer, I know ye guys would love it done but christ the lad cant play for 6 games in the league and I cant see ye needing to rely on him to get into the group stages of champions league.
So you can understand Wenger not trying to rush transfer through,
Personally I see ye getting him on transfer deadline day for 50million

If suarez is the only player we sign I'd consider this transfer Window a failure.

extra gravy · 31-07-2013 12:32AM

Marty McFly wrote: »

Jesus this thread is becoming unbearable the amount of shiite being spouted is ridiculous, it become pretty clear on Higuain we had a deal in place then Madrid moved the goalposts and Arsenal done the rright thing and said fcuk you, and moved attention to Suarez that may or may yet pan out we don't know.

Proven managers what honours or clubs has Pellegrini led clubs to be exact? You have no idea if both teams will hit the ground running they may and may not one can only speculate and to say they will with certainty is nonsense. How have Spurs strengthened exactly? Madrid right now are currently chasing there best player and if the loose him they will more than likely be a weaker side.

Will people stop whinging like 5 year old school boys who's mommy just said no you can't have that ice cream now.

Come back and be negative whine bags in September if it's still the same but jesus give it a rest and lets see what the club can and will do before passing judgement.

Finally someone talking sense. Sick of reading the same repetitive drivel in here every day.

batistuta9 · 31-07-2013 01:00AM

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

28th August 2011:
"No truth in the links with Arteta"

July 2012:
Santi Cazorla? I don't know that guy!

Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »

Anyone can pull fake quotes out of their arse fuzzy to make a point.:D

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

Even if those aren't true (and I'm not sure cos i can't find clear cut sources for them, just took them from a blog post). The point still remains that Wenger always talks complete shite in his press conferences about potential signings, there's no point taking him seriously.

The Carzorla quote is true, possibly not word for word but he did pretty much say it

however the context (not sure if this is the right word) of the comment isn't there at all,
he was asked about him
smiled, answered smiling and laughed at the end
journos laughed & that was that, no follow up i don't think
that's roughly what happened with it, i watched the press conf. he was asked in.

if you seen it you knew rightly there was interest in him, he did everything but say but from the way he was answering and laughing/smiling you knew it was true, even if he did deny it in words

read that in a paper/wherever though and you've no idea of any of that, you just think he's deny it/saying there's no interest

he might talk a lot of shít & deny stuff when it's in print form but you've to see the video to know properly what way he answered it

gnfnrhead · 31-07-2013 01:26AM

On average I see about three new pages (40 per page) in this thread a day. I used to be hopeful that it was a good sign, but I've now realised it is only the doomsday talk once again. We're going to get relegated while spurs are signing Messi level players and will win the league with 114 points.

Thinking of giving this thread a miss for a few weeks and hopefully all the crybabies will be done by then.

31-07-2013 02:44AM

gnfnrhead wrote: »

On average I see about three new pages (40 per page) in this thread a day. I used to be hopeful that it was a good sign, but I've now realised it is only the doomsday talk once again. We're going to get relegated while spurs are signing Messi level players and will win the league with 114 points.

Thinking of giving this thread a miss for a few weeks and hopefully all the crybabies will be done by then.

I think you replied in the wrong thread.

~Rebel~ · 31-07-2013 06:04AM

Oranage2 wrote: »

So far this window has thought me that dealing with both Madrid and Liverpool is a complete circus and that I hope we don't have to do any more dealings with them in the considerable future.

But on to the suarez affair, you can see why this bid has hurt Liverpool fans and why they've posted so much crap about arsenal recently like its not a real bid or it was just to sell season tickets. They like to think that the top 3 is cement and that they're a slight level below that with us, but just like the Rvp bid for us was a realisation that we're no longer a title competing side (although it was six plus years in the making so it was easier to take) this bid is a realisation of how mid table and just how far Liverpool are actually behind arsenal. If the twelve point gap wasn't a good indication all you have to do is look at the players, take for example ramsey, arsenals worst starter, now if you compare him to regular starters for Liverpool he is considerably better than Allen, henderson, downing and marginally better than Lucas. So basically, that's arsenals worst player is better than 40 percent of Liverpools outfield players. Huge difference in squad quality.

But I can't see arsenal going over 40 million for suarez and no doubt pool fans will consider this a mini victory. In my opinion arsenal would be right not to go over 40m, suarez has just had one exceptional season in a top flight league, just one. If this was his second or third season producing that type of form then yes he's worth the 50 million, but right now he's not. And not to mention the 'Luis suarez' factor too, this is a guy that's infamous for cheating, diving, stamping, hair pulling as well a biting and racial abuse, things that pool fans wrongly play of as a 'will to win', biting stamping etc isn't winning a game at any cost just like stamping and eye gauging isn't a will to win in rugby, its just tugish behaviour, plain and simple and I as a fan would not like to see a player playing for my team do these type of things.

Of course id like to have of a guy of his talent but do I want suarez, the simple answer Is not really especially for 40 plus million.

Christ!

gosplan · 31-07-2013 07:48AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think you replied in the wrong thread.

Yeah, he's totally off the mark.

This one has at least 8-10 new pages of whinging per day.

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

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