Woman chooses alternative medicine instead of out patient surgery - bad results

Jesus that's rough!

What an idiot though, opts for the " natural" route but takes ibuprofen for the pain after applying the dodgy stuff.

mitosis wrote: »

Reminds me of the Apple eejit who, despite billions of dollars and apparent genius, when he got cancer decided to go with witch doctor hokum rather than traditional medicine. By the time he copped on it was too late.

The girl in the OP's link uses an iPad too...
It's contagious!

mitosis wrote: »

Reminds me of the Apple eejit who, despite billions of dollars and apparent genius, when he got cancer decided to go with witch doctor hokum rather than traditional medicine. By the time he copped on it was too late.

He not only 'copped on', but explicitly recommended evidence based medicine once he realised the snakeoilery had done nothing to treat his condition. There's a linkidink to an interview with a close friend who took his advice to have his cancer treated properly. I'll hunt it out when I've a little more time.

Y'know, the really sad thing about the woman in the OP's link is that basal cell carcinoma is essentially, in cancer terms, not really serious at all. It rarely metastasises, and is only considered malignant in terms of the damage it 'may' do to surrounding tissue. Certainly more serious than a pimple, but not hugely so. She quite literally cut off her nose to spite her face. An idiot led by idiots.

endacl wrote: »

There's a linkidink to an interview with a close friend who took his advice to have his cancer treated properly. I'll hunt it out when I've a little more time.

Linkidink: http://9to5mac.com/2013/01/06/ideo-founder-david-kelley-talks-design-steve-jobs-cancer-and-the-importance-of-empathy/

Interview with David Kelley, CEO of IDEO, and designer of the first Apple mouse. To save the clicking, relevant bit is quoted.

"Jobs introduced Kelley to his wife KC Branscomb. And Steve Jobs was also there for Kelley when the unthinkable happened. In 2007, Kelley was diagnosed with throat cancer – and given a 40 percent chance of survival. Jobs, already suffering from his own deadly cancer, gave him some advice.

David Kelley: He came over and said, “Look, you know, don’t consider any alternative – go straight to Western medicine. Don’t try any herbs or anything.”

Charlie Rose: Why do you think Steve said, “Don’t look for alternative medicine, go straight to the hard stuff?”

David Kelley: I think he had made- in his mind, he had made the mistake that he had tried to cure his pancreatic cancer in other ways other than, I mean, he just said, “Don’t mess around."

Pity the woman in the original link went straight for the online idiots. There are smart people online too...

:rolleyes:

Edz87 wrote: »

People need to understand how desperate people are when they are told they have a possibly terminal illness.

A good friend of mine died from cancer a couple of years ago. She was trying everything from the "out there" complementary medicine to radio and chemotherapy. She succumbed after a year but for every one of those days she was fighting, trying to find something that might help.

Sorry for your loss. I fully understand that when straws are all that is left, straws will be grasped at.

What we're talking about here though, is a conscious decision, supported by idiots, to ignore a straightforward and effective medical remedy in favour of quackery. And as a first resort, not a last one. And thereby doing incredible damage where none whatsoever was necessary.

foxinsox wrote: »

Jaysus.. wtf..

That is horrific.

That is potentially terminal stupidity.

That is probably the most tragic and simultaneously stupid thing I've ever seen. The woman is clearly a bit of a eejit, who believes she and her mates on the internet are way more intelligent than modern medical science but you can only pity her. Her face is destroyed and shes going to spend a hell of a lot on surgery to get to a point where she can venture out without scaring small children. Hopefully she gets a real doctor for the surgery and doesn't try to do it herself with a kitchen knife and some advice from the internet.

The people on that forum remind me of the internet lawyers who show up on threads on boards offering simple and wrong legal opinions on the rights of bouncers, policemen, tenants, homeowners etc.