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Bad diesel anyone [Cork] ?

  • 27-07-2013 12:43PM
    #1
    orlacorcoran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 ✭


    has anyone recently purchased bad diesel in the east cork area. i did not know i had till discovered i had car trouble just thought it was my car.


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  • #2
    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,972 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    Bad Diesel
    vin-diesel-photo-gallery-3.jpg

    on topic, it maybe your car, what makes you think its not you car?


  • #3
    orlacorcoran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 ✭orlacorcoran


    i had the diesel tested thats how i know it was bad. extremley bad ... two injectors are gone. thanks


  • #4
    Bandara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭Bandara


    orlacorcoran wrote: »
    i had the diesel tested thats how i know it was bad. extremley bad ... two injectors are gone. thanks

    Hi Orla

    Who did you get it tested by?


  • #5
    btb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭btb


    Quality of fuel depends on where you buy it from, I would always buy from a local oil depot off the pump, and would average 7.9 miles/ ltr. Recently purchased diesel at a well know off M7 service area, twice, exact same driving style journey traffic etc and on both fills is down to 6.27 miles/ ltr, back to my local supplier and I'm back at 7.9 ish miles/ ltr. Modern diesels are very unforgiving on fuel quality.
    And I would watch fuel economy regularly.


  • #6
    digzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭digzy


    You'd hear a lot about this. I'd have thought that you'd be safe enough with the multiples like topaz, texaco ect. And avoided the yahoos selling the nordy washed stuff?


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  • #7
    Padraig Mor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,657 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    orlacorcoran wrote: »
    i had the diesel tested thats how i know it was bad. extremley bad ... two injectors are gone. thanks

    Friends of mine have just had a load of trouble from supposedly bad diesel (water in it apparently) sourced in East cork. You want to pm me the garage and I can let you know if it's the same one?


  • #8
    DanWall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭DanWall


    Maxol has a Guarantee of quality on its pumps which I trust. Personally I stick to the big known brands. What is Greatgas?
    some filling stations do not even have a brand name on.


  • #9
    Dermo123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Dermo123


    orlacorcoran wrote: »
    has anyone recently purchased bad diesel in the east cork area. i did not know i had till discovered i had car trouble just thought it was my car.

    I live in East Cork and would be interested to know the whereabouts of the garage you purchased the dodgy fuel? A subtle hint would suffice if you do not want to disclose exactly.


  • #10
    orlacorcoran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 ✭orlacorcoran


    Padraig Mor wrote: »
    Friends of mine have just had a load of trouble from supposedly bad diesel (water in it apparently) sourced in East cork. You want to pm me the garage and I can let you know if it's the same one?

    according to the garage no one else has complained or had trouble. don t want to say name of garage at present . however water was one of the number of bad elements found in diesel . waiting on the supplier of the garage to test the diesel for themselves .


  • #11
    Mumha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭Mumha


    orlacorcoran wrote: »
    according to the garage no one else has complained or had trouble. don t want to say name of garage at present . however water was one of the number of bad elements found in diesel . waiting on the supplier of the garage to test the diesel for themselves .

    Could it be that their underground tanks are old ? There's a garage on the western side of Cork known for its cheap diesel where there were similar issues.


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  • #12
    Cedrus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Cedrus


    In my personal experience and those I know, bad fuel has ALWAYS been down to water or water borne silt in it.

    Old stations accumulate sumps of water due to leaks over the years and the operators seem either unwilling or unable to clean the tanks. They get away with it because most of the time we're not pumping from the very bottom of the underground tank. However, when they get deliveries it is all stirred up and we get watery rubbish at all levels. If we could avoid buying just after a delivery most of the "bad fuel" issues would be gone, if you see a tanker on the forecourt of an older station, drive on, the retailers won't warn us.

    I'm sure there are closed down stations that could have been saved if they had desludged their tanks or had settling moratoriums for a few hours after deliveries.

    I know that there are issues with washed green/red diesel nearer the border counties but it's not such a big problem in Cork, and I'm a petrol user anyway.


  • #13
    Padraig Mor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,657 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    orlacorcoran wrote: »
    according to the garage no one else has complained or had trouble. don t want to say name of garage at present . however water was one of the number of bad elements found in diesel . waiting on the supplier of the garage to test the diesel for themselves .

    It wouldn't be in an area that rhymes with "clock" would it?


  • #14
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Water in diesel and bad diesel are two very different things.


  • #15
    Cedrus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Cedrus


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    Water in diesel and bad diesel are two very different things.

    I wasn't aware that "bad diesel" was such a strict technical term.


  • #16
    orlacorcoran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 ✭orlacorcoran


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    Water in diesel and bad diesel are two very different things.

    well my car has bad diesel which contains bio diesel high levels of water and a very high acid content amongst other elements that should not be in diesel.
    i did not set out to buy bad diesel .. but surly im not the only one who purchased it.


  • #17
    orlacorcoran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 ✭orlacorcoran


    Padraig Mor wrote: »
    It wouldn't be in an area that rhymes with "clock" would it?

    does not rhyme with clock..


  • #18
    knipex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭knipex


    orlacorcoran wrote: »
    well my car has bad diesel which contains bio diesel high levels of water and a very high acid content amongst other elements that should not be in diesel.
    i did not set out to buy bad diesel .. but surly im not the only one who purchased it.


    High acid content would make me suspect washed diesel...


  • #19
    orlacorcoran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 ✭orlacorcoran


    knipex wrote: »
    High acid content would make me suspect washed diesel...

    excuse my ignorance whats washed diesel


  • #20
    btb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭btb


    Green Agricultural diesel with the dye illegally removed...


  • #21
    The Pontiac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,415 ✭✭✭The Pontiac


    I'm from East Cork am now totally paranoid when filling my car with diesel.


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  • #22
    orlacorcoran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 ✭orlacorcoran


    The Pontiac wrote: »
    I'm from East Cork am now totally paranoid when filling my car with diesel.

    don t go to the expesive garage to fill up... i can t be the only one who purchased this diesel. it obviously has affected other cars but people probably think its the car not the diesel. its only when i spoke to a motor assessor that they recommended getting diesel checked.


  • #23
    George Dalton
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    orlacorcoran wrote: »
    don t go to the expesive garage to fill up... i can t be the only one who purchased this diesel. it obviously has affected other cars but people probably think its the car not the diesel. its only when i spoke to a motor assessor that they recommended getting diesel checked.

    Who tested the fuel for you and how much did it cost?

    What kind of car do you have and what damage exactly has been done to the fuel system?


  • #24
    The Pontiac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,415 ✭✭✭The Pontiac


    orlacorcoran wrote: »
    don t go to the expesive garage to fill up... i can t be the only one who purchased this diesel. it obviously has affected other cars but people probably think its the car not the diesel. its only when i spoke to a motor assessor that they recommended getting diesel checked.

    Thanks. I'll drive up in Glounthaune to fill up, just to be on the safe side.

    Midleton has some of the most expensive stations around, so will avoid them all. Killeagh and Ladysbridge are also expensive, so will have to avoid them too. :)


  • #25
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Cedrus wrote: »
    I wasn't aware that "bad diesel" was such a strict technical term.

    Not really, if there's water in the tank there's nothing actually wrong with the diesel itself. Bad diesel is 'bad', e.g. washed.


  • #26
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,730 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    wifey had trouble with her Ambulance last night , filled near CUH, no power after filling , so bad they had to swap vehicles.


  • #27
    orlacorcoran
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 ✭orlacorcoran


    my insurance company clearly states they do not cover the damage to ur car if u buy contaminated fuel


  • #28
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,328 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    anyone who wants to discuss 2 stroke engines, oil, differences between Irish petrol and te rest of the world, bread making etc, the off-topic posts have been moved here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057006876#


  • #29
    Figerty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭Figerty


    btb wrote: »
    Quality of fuel depends on where you buy it from, I would always buy from a local oil depot off the pump, and would average 7.9 miles/ ltr. Recently purchased diesel at a well know off M7 service area, twice, exact same driving style journey traffic etc and on both fills is down to 6.27 miles/ ltr, back to my local supplier and I'm back at 7.9 ish miles/ ltr. Modern diesels are very unforgiving on fuel quality.
    And I would watch fuel economy regularly.

    My sister had the same M7 experience recently; power down, economy down and you would be wondering about what damage is being done.


  • #30
    derry
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭derry


    orlacorcoran wrote: »
    my insurance company clearly states they do not cover the damage to ur car if u buy contaminated fuel


    In the USA and I suspect other countries they do get insurance to cover them from faulty fuel supplies (although many links i saw suggest they only seem to get half the costs )


    For me its a no brainier if you buy a Diesel car that costs some €30,000 and one bad fill could cost you upwards of €5000 to fix damage and there is no insurance available and there is sod all chance to recoup costs from the offending garage you would need your head examined to buy the diesel car or to even keep yourself in that technology unless your doing massive mileage like 50,000 a year where you can recoup the repair costs in fuel cost versus a petrol cars much lower repair cost for same bad fill incidents .

    Derry


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  • #31
    dantastic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭dantastic


    Anywhere in Cork anyone can recommend with particularly good Diesel?


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