Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 2011-2012

tus.maith · 24-07-2013 05:56PM

CCC to meet tomorrow with the minor match likely to be switched to Ashbourne for a 2pm start on Sunday

Mountainlad · 24-07-2013 06:01PM

tus.maith wrote: »

CCC to meet tomorrow with the minor match likely to be switched to Ashbourne for a 2pm start on Sunday

Where is that?

tus.maith · 24-07-2013 06:11PM

Co Meath, 25 mins north of Dublin

Backstreet Moyes · 24-07-2013 06:15PM

Interesting anyway that the bookies still make the minors favourite for the all ireland.

Speak Now · 24-07-2013 07:38PM

Nuts102 wrote: »

Interesting anyway that the bookies still make the minors favourite for the all ireland.

Really? Thats a surprise for a team already after been beaten twice. Maybe the bookies have alot of money taken on Waterford from earlier rounds. Who is second fav? Galway or Limerick?

KevIRL · 24-07-2013 08:19PM

Nuts102 wrote: »

Interesting anyway that the bookies still make the minors favourite for the all ireland.

PP have them as 3rd favs, and the odds lengthening significantly from the 10/11 available prior to the Munster final

Limerick 2/1
Kilkenny 2/1
Waterford 5/2
Galway 3/1
Laois 40/1
Antrim 66/1

Not too surprising either given that in bookies terms Waterford minors have only won 1 out of 5 games played this championship season, thats a pretty poor return. Not a hell of a lot between the first 4 though

Mr Tibbs · 24-07-2013 09:13PM

KevIRL wrote: »

PP have them as 3rd favs, and the odds lengthening significantly from the 10/11 available prior to the Munster final

Limerick 2/1
Kilkenny 2/1
Waterford 5/2
Galway 3/1
Laois 40/1
Antrim 66/1

Not too surprising either given that in bookies terms Waterford minors have only won 1 out of 5 games played this championship season, thats a pretty poor return. Not a hell of a lot between the first 4 though

Two out of five, Cork and Clare.

KevIRL · 24-07-2013 09:16PM

Mr Tibbs wrote: »

Two out of five, Cork and Clare.

Cork was a drawn match for the purposes of a bookie match bet.

alllcounty · 24-07-2013 09:38PM

I was listening to John Mullane on Sportstalk Off the Ball earlier and he was saying he was open to a phonecall before the Kilkenny game. That was the one game he would have loved to have played in. He'll be 33 in January but I think there is still another year left in him if he can be asked back. If he was available for the last 2 games of the league next year he would be a massive addition to our attacking options up front. I hope that door wont be closed next year as we need our best players on the field if we are to take on those above us in the pecking order for silverware.

WumBuster · 24-07-2013 09:47PM

alllcounty wrote: »

I was listening to John Mullane on Sportstalk Off the Ball earlier and he was saying he was open to a phonecall before the Kilkenny game. That was the one game he would have loved to have played in. He'll be 33 in January but I think there is still another year left in him if he can be asked back. If he was available for the last 2 games of the league next year he would be a massive addition to our attacking options up front. I hope that door wont be closed next year as we need our best players on the field if we are to take on those above us in the pecking order for silverware.

Im also open to a phonecall from the ex but she never takes up the option to ring me. pity.Why couldnt he pick up the phone himself. he made the decision. Would love to see him back in a waterford shirt though.

robopaddy · 24-07-2013 09:57PM

alllcounty wrote: »

I was listening to John Mullane on Sportstalk Off the Ball earlier and he was saying he was open to a phonecall before the Kilkenny game. That was the one game he would have loved to have played in. He'll be 33 in January but I think there is still another year left in him if he can be asked back. If he was available for the last 2 games of the league next year he would be a massive addition to our attacking options up front. I hope that door wont be closed next year as we need our best players on the field if we are to take on those above us in the pecking order for silverware.

what a completely stupid thing for him to say. at the start of the season he kept harping on about how his decision was final, no regrets and he wants his decision to be respected etc etc that was fair enough and Michael Ryan and co just accepted his decision and moved on but said the door was always open.. but now he turns around and says that. I grew up looking upon him as an idol and a legend but the guy is seriously going down in my estimation lately

alllcounty · 24-07-2013 10:14PM

When a glamour game is played in the summer anyone just into retirement in their first year will always feel that urge to play even if their mind was set in stone during the winter months. There's a serious commitment nowadays for intercounty players to put in, especially over a decade of commitment to the cause. I wouldn't be too harsh on him as he's human at the end of the day and mental fatigue does set in after years of serious commitment and no all irelands to show for it. Hopefully with a years rest he might feel more engerised next year.

seananigans · 24-07-2013 10:17PM

If he comes back, he should do as a soldier leave the interviews and the news column out .

while hes at it give eoin kelly a puck around the jaw and tell him to cop the **** on

doz · 24-07-2013 10:29PM

robopaddy wrote: »

what a completely stupid thing for him to say. at the start of the season he kept harping on about how his decision was final, no regrets and he wants his decision to be respected etc etc that was fair enough and Michael Ryan and co just accepted his decision and moved on but said the door was always open.. but now he turns around and says that. I grew up looking upon him as an idol and a legend but the guy is seriously going down in my estimation lately

It's an incredibly naive thing for him to say on the radio. He knows where the phone is if he chooses to make himself available again and he would be welcomed back with open arms if he made the call, simple as that. He'd have to give up the column though, Davy and in particular Lar are proof that writing and being involved at the same time does not work.

Can you imagine the furore though if he'd been brought back in for one game mid-season? Given some of the things he wrote I'd imagine there would have been a couple of unhappy players in the dressing room!

alllcounty · 24-07-2013 10:41PM

In fairness all he said was the Offlay game had huge importance as a defeat could set us back years. He was looking at it in terms of how Limerick got knocked out of the championship by Offaly in 2008 and it set them back 5 years. He didn't think it was putting pressure on the team when he wrote the article. His intentions are good even if they may not come across as that in the columns in the irish independent.

Deskjockey · 24-07-2013 10:51PM

WumBuster wrote: »

Im also open to a phonecall from the ex but she never takes up the option to ring me. pity.Why couldnt he pick up the phone himself. he made the decision. Would love to see him back in a waterford shirt though.

He couldn't pick up the phone as he'd be told to shag off.

Cake Man · 24-07-2013 10:56PM

Mr Tibbs wrote: »

Waterford Minors will play Antrim in Parnell Park (or Ashbourne) at 2pm on Sunday next and the winners will play Kilkenny.

I'm going to sound like a broken record at this stage but anyone any idea if WLR will be doing it live again? I would think they'd only be doing updates given they covered the last 2 games and the fact that it's not exactly a high profile game but said I'd ask anyway.

quintain · 24-07-2013 11:21PM

Mullane was one of the all time great players and characters. I hate all this controversy he gets himself into (and I have to say imho some of the stupid things he says).
I'm going to remember him as a player, one of my favourite Waterford players and favourite sportsmen of all time.

Giveitfong · 25-07-2013 12:13AM

WumBuster wrote: »

Think we could be up against it if we meet Kilkenny. they won their leinster matches by pretty large margins this year.

Kilkenny lost to Wexford in the first round of the Leinster championship. Got in by the back door and beat Laois (who beat Wexford) in the final.

tus.maith · 25-07-2013 07:37AM

Minor game switched to Ashbourne Co Meath with a 2pm throw in

Mr Tibbs · 25-07-2013 07:42AM

tus.maith wrote: »

Minor game switched to Ashbourne Co Meath with a 2pm throw in

Why was this game changed to Ashbourne. I'm sure it was Antrim put in this request as it would put a lot of Waterford supporter's off traveling to this venue. As far as I know the best way there is through the Phoenix Park.

seananigans · 25-07-2013 07:49AM

not really,can swing off the m50 onto the n2, it's motorway /dual carraigeway all the way

https://maps.google.ie/maps?saddr=Waterford&daddr=ashbourne&hl=en&ll=53.412052,-6.311324&spn=0.010731,0.01929&sll=52.25227,-7.127206&sspn=0.088169,0.154324&geocode=FW5OHQMdWj-T_ylN5NljnMZCSDH7uWeLiIG7xQ%3BFfqDMAMdOmKe_ymtdt9hxBRnSDHA7DGXqccACg&t=h&mra=ls&z=16

fricatus · 25-07-2013 07:56AM

Mr Tibbs wrote: »

As far as I know the best way there is through the Phoenix Park.

Only if you're starting from the centre of Dublin.

Getting to Ashbourne is simple enough. Just go up the M9 and M7 to Dublin, then left on the M50, just as you would for the airport, however you get off a bit earlier (M2 northbound). Ashbourne should be signposted from there.

No idea where the ground is after that, but it shouldn't be huge hassle to find it once you're there.

robopaddy · 25-07-2013 08:46AM

Mr Tibbs wrote: »

Why was this game changed to Ashbourne. I'm sure it was Antrim put in this request as it would put a lot of Waterford supporter's off traveling to this venue. As far as I know the best way there is through the Phoenix Park.

Parnell Park wasnt available and the next obvious choice, Navan wasnt available either. So Ashbourne was seen as a happy medium. apparantly there is fantastic facilities there in the Ashbourne/Donoughmore GAA Grounds well capable of hosting intercounty games.

I dont think they'll expect a big crowd especially considering it clashes with the Cork/Kilkenny AI quarter final given how far apart both counties are.

As for your reference to the Phoenix Park if you do find yourself driving through it on the way to Ashbourne its safe to say you have gotten lost!!!

Mr Tibbs · 25-07-2013 12:23PM

I was in Ashbourne as a passenger in a car with someone who knows the area quite well and he went through the Pheonix Park out to the Navan Rd. He said the M50 can be a nightmare sometimes but for Sunday the M50 would be ideal. Thanks lads. Just wondering what was wrong with Portlaoise or Tullamore, as Ashbourne is a lot nearer fot Antrim than us. I never find that M50 handy.

Mountainlad · 25-07-2013 12:35PM

Mr Tibbs wrote: »

I was in Ashbourne as a passenger in a car with someone who knows the area quite well and he went through the Pheonix Park out to the Navan Rd. He said the M50 can be a nightmare sometimes but for Sunday the M50 would be ideal. Thanks lads. Just wondering what was wrong with Portlaoise or Tullamore, as Ashbourne is a lot nearer fot Antrim than us. I never find that M50 handy.

Its actually shorter from the City apparently than it is from Antrim. You must remember that most of Antrim's hurling strongholds are at the North of the County, and therefore the very north of the Country. It'd be about the same journey from Tallow as it would from Dunloy, and Cushendall is even further north. Sounds like a very good choice of venue if the facilities are as good as stated.

Mr Tibbs · 25-07-2013 01:06PM

Mountainlad wrote: »

Its actually shorter from the City apparently than it is from Antrim. You must remember that most of Antrim's hurling strongholds are at the North of the County, and therefore the very north of the Country. It'd be about the same journey from Tallow as it would from Dunloy, and Cushendall is even further north. Sounds like a very good choice of venue if the facilities are as good as stated.

It could be worse, it could have been fixed for Mulingar, bad memories of an Antrim team and a Waterford team there.

Hslaw · 25-07-2013 07:08PM

Mr Tibbs wrote: »

It could be worse, it could have been fixed for Mulingar, bad memories of an Antrim team and a Waterford team there.

lets not speak of omens :-D

robopaddy · 25-07-2013 09:14PM

Hslaw wrote: »

lets not speak of omens :-D

dont think its anything to do with omens. mount sion thought all they had to do was just show up that day but Antrim club hurling is a lot stronger than given credit for

Hslaw · 25-07-2013 09:37PM

robopaddy wrote: »

dont think its anything to do with omens. mount sion thought all they had to do was just show up that day but Antrim club hurling is a lot stronger than given credit for

im not underestimating Antrim at all. while they are by far the biggest outsiders according to the bookies. they could pull of a shocker.
and really we shouldn't be in this position we should be Munster champions. but blew it.

i dunno what is going on with our minors.this is possibly the best minor team we have had in a few years. so i would be expecting us to win this game. im not looking beyond this Sunday.

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