Motors Chat Thread Round 4

CianRyan · 25-07-2013 12:45PM

BX 19 wrote: »

And then a bigger turbo to take over from the smaller turbo :pac:

If I try to build a sequential turbo set up, I'm likely to cause a black hole.

We'll see how I get on with the single turbo first. Haha

tossy · 25-07-2013 12:57PM

Having supercharged a car once,if i was doing it again i would go turbo for sure.

challengemaster · 25-07-2013 01:07PM

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

A supercharger shouldn't have any lag at all since you're not waiting for it to spool. It runs off the engine via a belt or chain.

Veloce wrote: »

Is there HP loss to run the supercharger since it's ran off the engine? (in comparison to a turbo)

Yeah, it's got no lag since its spooling from the engine speed, but the downside is that superchargers usually sap a huge amount of horsies (30-50bhp) just to run. You'll almost always be up on power at the end of it all, but not anywhere near running a turbo.

dgt · 25-07-2013 01:33PM

challengemaster wrote: »

Caught in a lag slide, no escape from dgt... :pac:

Speaking of turbos, I'm having a very weird, weird issue with my car.... It sucks but won't accept the blow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnd7Pn5DVDM

I've never seen a diesel create that much vacuum before through the manifold :eek:

I'll get to the bottom of it I hope!!!

YbFocus · 25-07-2013 01:41PM

I love how its doing its best to set fire to itself at the end

dgt · 25-07-2013 01:47PM

YbFocus wrote: »

I love how its doing its best to set fire to itself at the end

The first car I somewhat assembled 6 years ago (wow, that long ago

) by mistakes you learn. I plugged in the battery after the engine swap, arc arc arc, wtf, gigantic flame from the back of the engine bay :eek::eek::eek: I'd wired the earth into the starter along with everything else you see.... Still, I drove that car everywhere for 2 years :cool:

I had to start somewhere though

dar83 · 25-07-2013 01:54PM

I can just imagine Cian in his newly turbo'd MX5....

lag...lag....lag... hedge backwards.

YbFocus · 25-07-2013 02:04PM

dgt wrote: »

The first car I somewhat assembled 6 years ago (wow, that long ago ) by mistakes you learn. I plugged in the battery after the engine swap, arc arc arc, wtf, gigantic flame from the back of the engine bay :eek::eek::eek: I'd wired the earth into the starter along with everything else you see.... Still, I drove that car everywhere for 2 years :cool:

I had to start somewhere though

Just messing man, I don't know how you figure out half the stuff you do already!

CianRyan · 25-07-2013 02:04PM

OSI wrote: »

I just think a turbo would ruin the feel of the car. It's a NA car, and set up as such. A supercharger would give you extra power but keep you much closer to the feel of a NA, than a turbo will.

Maybe, but for ~€3000 you're looking at 130bhp from a super charger, I could have 140bhp from swapping in a later model 1.8 for far less money.
If I had loads of cash and a bigger engine to start with then yeah, a super charger would make sense but you're sapping 30/40bhp from a car that's only running 115bhp to start with in order to make another 15bhp... for €3000?
It just doesn't make sense.

Where as a small, fast spooling turbo can give you in and around 200bhp for about €1500. It'll feel different alright and there will be more lag but if the revs are kept up then it'll be fine and driving it off boost you can save petrol.

Super chargers have there place but I don't think it's on €900 low power 1.6's.

dar83 wrote: »

I can just imagine Cian in his newly turbo'd MX5....

lag...lag....lag... hedge backwards.

Yep, that'll be about it.

dgt · 25-07-2013 02:06PM

YbFocus wrote: »

Just messing man, I don't know how you figure out half the stuff you do already!

Ah I know man! Just the setting fire part reminded me of that particular night

I'm thinking it's my wastegate, if it is I'll bin it and control the boost by fuelling

YbFocus · 25-07-2013 02:06PM

dar83 wrote: »

I can just imagine Cian in his newly turbo'd MX5....

lag...lag....lag... hedge backwards.

It'd be quite a machine with a 13B in there, it would fit too no hassle!

CianRyan · 25-07-2013 02:28PM

They fit but it's a total custom fabrication job.
That said, I'd love to do that. 1.3 tax to boot. :pac:

MetzgerMeister · 25-07-2013 02:40PM

YbFocus wrote: »

It'd be quite a machine with a 13B in there, it would fit too no hassle!

He's looking for more power and torque, the last thing he wants to do is put in a torqueless rotary engine :pac:

YbFocus · 25-07-2013 02:41PM

Torque, power, n/a. What more do ye want

Although trying to get that engine over here and then get it in there....

But this noise....

furtzy · 25-07-2013 02:59PM

Out with the old E39 and in with the new Duster

Katunga · 25-07-2013 03:04PM

I bought some Teng pliers 2 weeks ago, Went to use them today and were covered in rust :eek:. Any ideas left in the garage same place I leave the rest of my tools never had this problem. Maybe I'll store them on some other place.

CianRyan · 25-07-2013 03:14PM

YbFocus wrote: »

Torque, power, n/a. What more do ye want

Although trying to get that engine over here and then get it in there....

But this noise....

I'd take the Lexus V8 because it's Japanese (and I'm an ass like that

) but the weight of it would seriously mess up the car, no?
They weigh 940kg with the 1.6 with 50/50 weight distribution, sticking a big lump of metal on the front could get pretty hairy.

Hence, turbo. :cool:

ShadowHearth · 25-07-2013 03:32PM

Anti rattle clips back on brakes and there is no more FECKING RATTLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Holy crap how much better driving experience gets when rattles and little noises sorted out!
ME:

toastedpickles · 25-07-2013 03:35PM

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Anti rattle clips back on brakes and there is no more FECKING RATTLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Holy crap how much better driving experience gets when rattles and little noises sorted out!
ME:

If you come to the next meet and don't look like this I will be very disappoint :P

YbFocus · 25-07-2013 03:37PM

CianRyan wrote: »

I'd take the Lexus V8 because it's Japanese (and I'm an ass like that ) but the weight of it would seriously mess up the car, no?

The ls series engines are aluminium blocked if I remember correctly, not your usual pig iron American stuff.
Actually seriously light for what they are, I'll see can I find something on it.

CianRyan · 25-07-2013 03:40PM

OSI wrote: »

Pretty sure it's a GM LS3 engine

The second video is a turbo Lexus V8, no?

YbFocus wrote: »

The ls series engines are aluminium blocked if I remember correctly, not your usual pig iron American stuff.
Actually seriously light for what they are, I'll see can I find something on it.

I've heard a lot of that alright, I just can't see it being as light as a 4 cylinder turbo though.
I'm also a prick for wanting to at least keep the countries the same, if not the manufacturer.

YbFocus · 25-07-2013 03:42PM

Your 1.6 weighs 130kg, an ls3 weighs in at 181kg. I'd live with that

CianRyan · 25-07-2013 03:45PM

:eek:
That's pretty light and does make for an interesting concept.

I still don't think I'd be into the V8 though, it's just not me.

Edit: Talk about money.

challengemaster · 25-07-2013 06:08PM

Foxhole Norman · 25-07-2013 06:10PM

I'm just going to stop looking at E39's on Piston Heads now

toastedpickles · 25-07-2013 06:10PM

Tim Hortons donuts.......nomnomnom

dgt · 25-07-2013 06:13PM

challengemaster wrote: »

Meh.... This however

toastedpickles · 25-07-2013 06:15PM

dgt wrote: »

Meh.... This however

Yeahhh my turbo has a car attached to it, it's my daily run around :pac:

toastedpickles · 25-07-2013 06:21PM

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS715iMGeGNhxUG0P4zSbPGcDpsB-Ta4N1kQmRZECQlk5SR6Gww

Turboception :pac:

dgt · 25-07-2013 06:29PM

OSI wrote: »

Yawn

Go big or go home :pac:

toastedpickles wrote: »

Turboception :pac:

You mean.....?

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