Health Minister James Reilly wants a tobacco-free Ireland by 2025

Skid X · 25-07-2013 04:12PM #1

Enjoy it while you can

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/minister-seeks-tobaccofree-ireland-29448384.html

Health Minister James Reilly has declared war on smoking, saying he wants a tobacco-free Ireland by 2025.

"It's the only product I know that is legally, freely available that will kill you if you use it, according to the manufacturers and so on," Dr Reilly said. "It's a fight that we cannot turn away from and that we can't afford to lose. It's a battle that will continue until it's won and it will be won."

SEPT 23 1989 · 25-07-2013 04:14PM

They could do it tomorrow if they really wanted to

Synode · 25-07-2013 04:16PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

They could do it tomorrow if they really wanted to

There would be chaos. It has to be phased out.

Peregrine · 25-07-2013 04:16PM

What's with the thread title? Nowhere does it say anything about banning smoking

He revealed that a document had been passed by Government, entitled Tobacco-Free Ireland, which aims to have less than 5% of the population smoking within the next 12 years. Ireland's smoking population is currently 29%

Good. Full support but I think 12 years is a bit ambitious.

Amirani · 25-07-2013 04:16PM

"It's the only product I know that is legally, freely available that will kill you if you use it, according to the manufacturers and so on,"

He's either a complete spoofer or a complete idiot.

CianRyan · 25-07-2013 04:16PM

Burn it, burn it all!

Irishcrx · 25-07-2013 04:16PM

Hahahahahahaha sure they will...sure , they wouldn't dare loose that tax.

Outkast_IRE · 25-07-2013 04:17PM

It would be like prohibition in the US.
It would cause a lot of everyday law abiding people to start handing their cash over to the underworld in order to get it.

Him coming out with these sort of statements, on the back of the EU banning or trying to ban E-Cigarettes is stupid.

If they had any sense they would do some proper research into E-cigarettes and see are they a viable alternative for people trying to stop smoking etc and incentivise the **** out of people changing over if they seem ok.

CianRyan · 25-07-2013 04:17PM

NiallSparky wrote: »

He's either a complete spoofer or a complete idiot.

What other products spring to mind?

Czarcasm · 25-07-2013 04:17PM

Skid X wrote: »

Enjoy it while you can

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/minister-seeks-tobaccofree-ireland-29448384.html

Who does he honestly think he's kidding with that one? :pac:

Gumbi · 25-07-2013 04:17PM

In fairness. Alcohol does a lot, LOT more damage than cigs. If people wanna smoke in their own let em shmoke. Christ, ****ing nanny state.

Ilik Urgee · 25-07-2013 04:18PM

With all this progression towards free choice in other areas of society, would it be too much to let people themselves decide if they want to smoke or not?

Uriel. · 25-07-2013 04:18PM

As a non-smoker, I can't say I'd have a problem with it as such.
But is it really a realistic goal.

How will they replace the tax revenue? It'll be a double whammy - loss of revenue plus additional expenditure to combat the illegal trade. I suspect the long-term would probably show reduced costs in healthcare expenses, but that might take an enture generation. How is the funding gap filled in the mean time.

plus some of the healthcare cost reductions would be offset against people living longer so more money paid out on state pensions and associated benefits.

The smoking ban has been a brilliant success, if you ask me, and if they dealt harshly with people who dispose of their butts in an inconsiderate way, then I am not sure what else we can expect that is realistic.

Daidy2011 · 25-07-2013 04:19PM

......and watch the tax rate go up to 65%+ to cover the loss in excise duties they get from tobacco products........

Laudable objective (and I am a smoker) - don't ever see it happening.

Czarcasm · 25-07-2013 04:19PM

CianRyan wrote: »

What other products spring to mind?

Alcohol.

CianRyan · 25-07-2013 04:19PM

Gumbi wrote: »

In fairness. Alcohol does a lot, LOT more damage than cigs. If people wanna smoke in their own let em shmoke. Christ, ****ing nanny state.

Alcohol abuse does a lot of damage, drinking responsibly isn't comparable with tobacco.
Tabacco is a very serious drug, it's just been legal for so long that banning it sounds ridiculous. If it were only discovered today there is no way it would make it to the shelves.

CianRyan · 25-07-2013 04:20PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

Alcohol.

See above.

jd007 · 25-07-2013 04:20PM

Sure lets just ban everything. Fuckin muppets

EyeSight · 25-07-2013 04:20PM

i am not a smoker and i disagree with it. Ban on porn, ban on smoking what's next?

Amirani · 25-07-2013 04:20PM

CianRyan wrote: »

Alcohol abuse does a lot of damage, drinking responsibly isn't comparable with tobacco.
Tabacco is a very serious drug, it's just been legal for so long that banning it sounds ridiculous. If it were only discovered today there is no way it would make it to the shelves.

Same with alcohol.

the_syco · 25-07-2013 04:20PM

People will just continue to smoke the dodgy Chinese smokes.

Peregrine · 25-07-2013 04:21PM

jd007 wrote: »

Sure lets just ban everything. Fuckin muppets

EyeSight wrote: »

i am not a smoker and i disagree with it. Ban on porn, ban on smoking what's next?

the_syco wrote: »

People will just continue to smoke the dodgy Chinese smokes.

They're not banning smoking. They're aiming to reduce the number of smokers to 5%.

SEPT 23 1989 · 25-07-2013 04:21PM

Synode wrote: »

There would be chaos. It has to be phased out.

Remove all cigarettes from shops and make them only available from chemists on prescription

i am a smoker

everdead.ie · 25-07-2013 04:21PM

Daidy2011 wrote: »

......and watch the tax rate go up to 65%+ to cover the loss in excise duties they get from tobacco products........

Laudable objective (and I am a smoker) - don't ever see it happening.

Smoking related illness' cost more than the revenue generated I thought?

wp_rathead · 25-07-2013 04:21PM

Prohibition NEVER works

EDIT: just read it, doesn't say anything about banning smoking?

CianRyan · 25-07-2013 04:22PM

NiallSparky wrote: »

Same with alcohol.

No, alcohol has health benefits when the user is responsible and doesn't binge, where as having even 1 cigarette is bad for you.

the_syco · 25-07-2013 04:22PM

If he bans porn and smokes, people will be dropping dead from stress related illness left, right and centre!

Rented Mule · 25-07-2013 04:22PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Remove all cigarettes from shops and make them only available from chemists on prescription

i am a smoker

There will be truckloads of 'chemists' setting up shop all over the country.

mikom · 25-07-2013 04:22PM

Health Minister James Reilly has declared war on smoking, saying he wants a tobacco-free Ireland by 2025.

"It's the only product I know that is legally, freely available that will kill you if you use it, according to the manufacturers and so on," Dr Reilly said. "It's a fight that we cannot turn away from and that we can't afford to lose. It's a battle that will continue until it's won and it will be won."

Did he say this with a lump of burger sauce stuck to the side of his beard?

WinnyThePoo · 25-07-2013 04:23PM

CianRyan wrote: »

No, alcohol has health benefits when the user is responsible and doesn't binge, where as having even 1 cigarette is bad for you.

Bull.

Skid X · 25-07-2013 04:23PM

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

What's with the thread title? Nowhere does it say anything about banning smoking

It's in the Independent Headline, also in this Newstalk story

https://www.newstalk.ie/Reilly-wants-a-smoke-free-Ireland-by-2025

Health Minister James Reilly wants a tobacco-free Ireland by 2025

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