vw golf mk5 1.4 75BHP vs 80BHP

RedDeadMarshal · 24-07-2013 07:08PM #1

is there a major difference in the earlier 75BHP mk5 and the 80BHP mk5?

Mycroft H · 24-07-2013 07:14PM

Either way 80bhp in a heavy car like the golf is pathetic.

Veloce · 24-07-2013 07:14PM

5 BHP

RedDeadMarshal · 24-07-2013 07:16PM

Veloce wrote: »

5 BHP

apart from that is it more economical? does it feel more powerful?

spank_inferno · 24-07-2013 07:21PM

RedDeadMarshal wrote: »

apart from that is it more economical? does it feel more powerful?

Barely noticable.

losing weight would probably improve performance just as much :pac:

RedDeadMarshal · 24-07-2013 07:26PM

spank_inferno wrote: »

Barely noticable.

losing weight would probably improve performance just as much :pac:

hmm yeah but do you think it's a good car for a teenager?

spank_inferno · 24-07-2013 07:30PM

RedDeadMarshal wrote: »

hmm yeah but do you think it's a good car for a teenager?

Any car is good for a teenager, so long as it's cheap to run.
The above example Golf is no more or less suitable than any other car

The most expensive car is no safer than a €300 1ltr micra if the person behind the wheel is a poor driver..

Mycroft H · 24-07-2013 07:34PM

RedDeadMarshal wrote: »

hmm yeah but do you think it's a good car for a teenager?

An old shape micra; cheaper to run, service, insure, tax etc etc. And more reliable.

Pj! · 24-07-2013 07:38PM

spank_inferno wrote: »

The most expensive car is no safer than a €300 1ltr micra if the person behind the wheel is a poor driver..

Well that's not really true. Some cars are obviously safer than others.

The best of drivers can meet a poor/drunk driver.

I'd rather my teen in a Golf than a Micra.

djimi · 24-07-2013 07:46PM

RedDeadMarshal wrote: »

hmm yeah but do you think it's a good car for a teenager?

Not if youre getting quoted nearly four grand for insurance its not

RedDeadMarshal · 24-07-2013 07:55PM

djimi wrote: »

Not if youre getting quoted nearly four grand for insurance its not

yeah I got quoted 3800

RedDeadMarshal · 24-07-2013 08:06PM

Pj! wrote: »

Well that's not really true. Some cars are obviously safer than others.

The best of drivers can meet a poor/drunk driver.

I'd rather my teen in a Golf than a Micra.

yeah that's what my parents think too a lot of people seem to recommend city cars like a Nissan Micra or a Toyota Yaris to people like me but nobody buys them I have seen a few lads in mk4 and mk5 Golfs, They just don't bother with cars like those I only seen one teenager in a Yaris he's in my school and after a month owning it he already managed to crash it the whole front wing was damaged and then bogged down and not resprayed. I guess some people don't value their valuables and not many lads can afford a golf as a first car so i'm lucky My parents only want a golf for me since they are reliable, well at least in my family we never had any problems with any of the the tdi or petrol Volkswagens

Pj! · 24-07-2013 08:26PM

Presume they are the same models as discussed here on a UK forum.

RedDeadMarshal · 24-07-2013 08:33PM

Pj! wrote: »

Presume they are the same models as discussed here on a UK forum.

No thank you for your help and time though they are comparing the 75 to the 90hp fsi model which is driven by a chain instead of a belt they discontinued the 1.4 fsi in 2006 and launched the completely new 80bhp N/A engine which I am comparing right now to the 75hp

George Dalton · 24-07-2013 09:41PM

There is virtually no difference between the 75bhp and the 80bhp. They are effectively the same engine.

RedDeadMarshal · 24-07-2013 09:59PM

George Dalton wrote: »

There is virtually no difference between the 75bhp and the 80bhp. They are effectively the same engine.

I have only driven the 75BHP normally and I can't say whether it's punchy or slow so that's why i'm asking here whether there is a big difference in the 80BHP model are you sure they are the same? have you driven both? I have popped the engine cover of the 75BHP and it has rust spots all over the engine I know it's an old car but the 80bhp doesn't have any rust and seems to be made out of aluminium. I heard a few problems on the 80bhp but never have I heard or read any problems with the mk5 75bhp you can even Google it and there is no problems stated in the forums or anywhere. So I don't think they are the same engine because I think 80BHP has an aluminium engine block and the 75BHP has a steel/iron engine block which is heavier and more reliable.

Mycroft H · 24-07-2013 10:10PM

RedDeadMarshal wrote: »

I have only driven the 75BHP normally and I can't say whether it's punchy or slow so that's why i'm asking here whether there is a big difference in the 80BHP model are you sure they are the same? have you driven both? I have popped the engine cover of the 75BHP and it has rust spots all over the engine I know it's an old car but the 80bhp doesn't have any rust and seems to be made out of aluminium. I heard a few problems on the 80bhp but never have I heard or read any problems with the mk5 75bhp you can even Google it and there is no problems stated in the forums or anywhere. So I don't think they are the same engine because I think 80BHP has an aluminium engine block and the 75BHP has a steel/iron engine block which is heavier and more reliable.

I'd take George on his word, he runs a specialist VW garage down in Port Laoise. Knows his stuff.

Also they're not reputed to be a great engine, they tend to burn a lot of oil at high miles. Compound that with a soft gearbox. Problems tend to be exacerbated with they typical neglect to routine maintenance that the Irish car owner has.

Theboinkmaster · 24-07-2013 10:14PM

George Dalton wrote: »

There is virtually no difference between the 75bhp and the 80bhp. They are effectively the same engine.

Air con became standard on the 80bhp model

bazz26 · 24-07-2013 10:16PM

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

Air con became standard on the 80bhp model

I think he was referring to the engine rather than the spec.

RedDeadMarshal · 24-07-2013 10:51PM

bazz26 wrote: »

I think he was referring to the engine rather than the spec.

wrong air con became standard on the 2007 vw golf which was launched with the 80bhp engine so even the poverty spec golfs got a/c while on the earlier 75bhp 1.4 models it was an option so he was right.

Theboinkmaster · 24-07-2013 10:55PM

bazz26 wrote: »

I think he was referring to the engine rather than the spec.

I know, and i was referring to the spec

bazz26 · 24-07-2013 10:57PM

RedDeadMarshal wrote: »

wrong air con became standard on the 2007 vw golf which was launched with the 80bhp engine so even the poverty spec golfs got a/c while on the earlier 75bhp 1.4 models it was an option so he was right.

The point is that the 75bhp engine and 80bhp engine are the same with maybe some very small differences to squeeze that extra 5bhp out of it. That engine was discontinued in late 2009 and replaced by the 1.2 TSi.

George Dalton · 24-07-2013 10:57PM

RedDeadMarshal wrote: »

wrong air con became standard on the 2007 vw golf which was launched with the 80bhp engine so even the poverty spec golfs got a/c while on the earlier 75bhp 1.4 models it was an option so he was right.

Yes but what has air con got to do with the engine? That was the point bazz26 was trying to make.

The 75bhp BCA code engine and the 80bhp BUD code engine are basically identical. They both have alloy blocks. They both give as much (or as little) trouble as each other.

If I were you I would be much more interested in the condition, spec and history of any given car rather than whether it was 75 or 80 bhp.

RedDeadMarshal · 24-07-2013 11:49PM

RedDeadMarshal · 24-07-2013 11:59PM

RedDeadMarshal · 25-07-2013 12:01AM

how are they the same?

colm_mcm · 25-07-2013 12:05AM

Well the second one looks like its a mk6 not mk5 and the first one has a big plastic cover over the engine

colm_mcm · 25-07-2013 12:08AM

I mean, here's a mk4 golf 1.4

bazz26 · 25-07-2013 12:14AM

Why would VW design and develop a brand new engine with only 5bhp extra in 2007 and then replace it altogether in 2009?

RedDeadMarshal · 25-07-2013 12:09PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Well the second one looks like its a mk6 not mk5 and the first one has a big plastic cover over the engine

yeah the second one is a mk6 but it's the same one as in the mk5 I could not get a picture of a mk5 one. The plastic cover one is the 75bhp and that's the only one I could get in the images.

RedDeadMarshal · 25-07-2013 12:11PM

bazz26 wrote: »

Why would VW design and develop a brand new engine with only 5bhp extra in 2007 and then replace it altogether in 2009?

they didn't you see it was used in the mk6 up to 2010 and then the new mk5 POLO with an upgraded ecu software which was pushing 85bhp. Ok this is getting confusing back to the golf.

vw golf mk5 1.4 75BHP vs 80BHP

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