Farming Chit Chat II

hugo29 · 24-07-2013 10:18AM

Kovu Murr wrote: »

i used to be a protein worshiper, liver for breakfast, run 3km then go to work. Bit out of practice now though.

Cannot stomach sugar at all in the morning, 2 or 3 strong(and I mean strong) coffees and I'm good to go. Prob should have carb brekky but I'm sure I'm not the only one who can't face food once they get up?

i could not leave the house without a breakfast, cereal, yogurt and boiled eggs

how people operate without breakfast I do not know, used to know a lad whose breakfast was coffee and cig

hugo29 · 24-07-2013 10:21AM

at discussion group meeting last night, first one i felt i got something out off, really good, supposed to go to one of the better farms next week

anyway one of the lads was saying that he had some of his cows hooves peared and the man who was carrying it out maintained that suckler cows should not need to have their hooves peared, has anyone ever heard this

Kovu · 24-07-2013 10:25AM

hugo29 wrote: »

at discussion group meeting last night, first one i felt i got something out off, really good, supposed to go to one of the better farms next week

anyway one of the lads was saying that he had some of his cows hooves peared and the man who was carrying it out maintained that suckler cows should not need to have their hooves peared, has anyone ever heard this

Bullc**p

Anyone who has a cow with bad feet in suckler needs to cull that cow immediately or in the year to come.
My own ped lm cow is still getting back to herself from having her foot paired to the 'quick'. The hoof was coming away from the foot and it too 2 jobs from Gabe the almighty to repair it & put a shoe on.

Figerty · 24-07-2013 10:44AM

Kovu Murr wrote: »

Bullc**p

Anyone who has a cow with bad feet in suckler needs to cull that cow immediately or in the year to come.
My own ped lm cow is still getting back to herself from having her foot paired to the 'quick'. The hoof was coming away from the foot and it too 2 jobs from Gabe the almighty to repair it & put a shoe on.

Had to do a job on a few suckler cows this winter myself; none as serious as what you mentioned. Toes crossing due to lack of wear on the rubber on the slats. Never let it get past that if possible. Quiet Charlois cows are usually manageable. Cattle, like donkeys need to wear the hooves back on hard ground.

Cracked hooves and other problems would need an expert.

Muckit · 24-07-2013 10:57AM

hugo29 wrote: »

used to know a lad whose breakfast was coffee and cig

A 'wh*res breakfast' it's called.

A rabbit's breakfast is 'a sh*t and a run-a-round'

Bodacious · 24-07-2013 11:00AM

Kovu Murr wrote: »

Bullc**p

Anyone who has a cow with bad feet in suckler needs to cull that cow immediately or in the year to come.
My own ped lm cow is still getting back to herself from having her foot paired to the 'quick'. The hoof was coming away from the foot and it too 2 jobs from Gabe the almighty to repair it & put a shoe on.

Must be the slats/ yards or else I'm just lucky but all continental cows (alot of young cows in fairness) all outwintered and I've never had to look for a hoof parer or no foot problems either

Kovu · 24-07-2013 11:30AM

Bodacious wrote: »

Must be the slats/ yards or else I'm just lucky but all continental cows (alot of young cows in fairness) all outwintered and I've never had to look for a hoof parer or no foot problems either

5 months a year on mats is hard on any cow.

redzerologhlen · 24-07-2013 11:38AM

hugo29 wrote: »

at discussion group meeting last night, first one i felt i got something out off, really good, supposed to go to one of the better farms next week

anyway one of the lads was saying that he had some of his cows hooves peared and the man who was carrying it out maintained that suckler cows should not need to have their hooves peared, has anyone ever heard this

Just finished discussion group on our farm now. I would probably still go to them if there was nothing out of it, A bit of banter for 2 hours if nothing else.

whelan1 · 24-07-2013 12:06PM

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reilig · 24-07-2013 12:26PM

hugo29 wrote: »

at discussion group meeting last night, first one i felt i got something out off, really good, supposed to go to one of the better farms next week

anyway one of the lads was saying that he had some of his cows hooves peared and the man who was carrying it out maintained that suckler cows should not need to have their hooves peared, has danyone ever heard this

Better farm walk is Joe Murray's in elphin next Tuesday. It's only open to btap members.

bob charles · 24-07-2013 12:35PM

hugo29 wrote: »

at discussion group meeting last night, first one i felt i got something out off, really good, supposed to go to one of the better farms next week

anyway one of the lads was saying that he had some of his cows hooves peared and the man who was carrying it out maintained that suckler cows should not need to have their hooves peared, has anyone ever heard this

When I had sucklers I would never dream of cutting their toes as you would never catch up with them if they were fully fit.

Milton09 · 24-07-2013 12:43PM

epfff wrote: »

How much slurry are you moving with 1350 tank
just thinking of buying tank but thought that would be very small

I'm only drawing to a 5 acre field so its not too bad, otherwise all my slurry ground is beside the sheds. 1350 is large enough for my land, anything bigger would normally be too heavy.

Milton09 · 24-07-2013 12:49PM

hugo29 wrote: »

at discussion group meeting last night, first one i felt i got something out off, really good, supposed to go to one of the better farms next week

anyway one of the lads was saying that he had some of his cows hooves peared and the man who was carrying it out maintained that suckler cows should not need to have their hooves peared, has anyone ever heard this

Ever since we got rubber for the slats we have to get hoofs on suckler cows pared every spring.

moy83 · 24-07-2013 12:57PM

Milton09 wrote: »

Ever since we got rubber for the slats we have to get hoofs on suckler cows pared every spring.

The more you do for a suckler cow the more she needs !

just do it · 24-07-2013 01:07PM

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Just finished discussion group on our farm now. I would probably still go to them if there was nothing out of it, A bit of banter for 2 hours if nothing else.

Agree with you. Met a few new lads as well. Even though we don't walk the farm you'll always see something in another lads yard.

hugo29 · 24-07-2013 01:15PM

reilig wrote: »

Better farm walk is Joe Murray's in elphin next Tuesday. It's only open to btap members.

yep thats the one we are going to, you have to go as a group, 6 o'clock show

apparently the cute mayo hoors closed the Richard Jennings walk to mayo peolple only

bob charles · 24-07-2013 01:16PM

just do it wrote: »

Agree with you. Met a few new lads as well. Even though we don't walk the farm you'll always see something in another lads yard.

wonder does much stuff go missing after farm walks?

hugo29 · 24-07-2013 01:17PM

bob charles wrote: »

wonder does much stuff go missing after farm walks?

a few wives or daughters with you Bob;)

hugo29 · 24-07-2013 01:20PM

moy83 wrote: »

The more you do for a suckler cow the more she needs !

your right about that Moy, put in slats for their comfort and its bad or their feet, as concrete keeps them peared, next thing they will have to wear slippers in the shed

whelan1 · 24-07-2013 02:19PM

bob charles wrote: »

wonder does much stuff go missing after farm walks?

would like to think not... the idea is everyone is helping everyone out not doing them over:rolleyes:

redzerologhlen · 24-07-2013 02:37PM

just do it wrote: »

Agree with you. Met a few new lads as well. Even though we don't walk the farm you'll always see something in another lads yard.

Same as, had no cattle at the home place to show them at the moment but if they were here I would have brought them out to them for a few minutes. Theres usually a few new ideas thrown out there and a bit of a debate on the merits of them. Discussion improved greatly after the first few meetings last year I have to say, takes a bit of time for some lads to come out of their shell.

whelan1 · 24-07-2013 02:40PM

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Same as, had no cattle at the home place to show them at the moment but if they were here I would have brought them out to them for a few minutes. Theres usually a few new ideas thrown out there and a bit of a debate on the merits of them. Discussion improved greatly after the first few meetings last year I have to say, takes a bit of time for some lads to come out of their shell.

does everyone have a messer in their group? we do and the other group close by have one too, ok some times they lighten up the conversation but they can be so annoying

Timmaay · 24-07-2013 02:49PM

whelan1 wrote: »

does everyone have a messer in their group? we do and the other group close by have one too, ok some times they lighten up the conversation but they can be so annoying

Give them a break, for some its probably the 1st bit of social interaction for afew weeks

, but yep, mine has a big mix of say afew younger more ambitious farmers, and then older lads who are less interested in big expansion etc, but still do want to improve. I'll give the older lads a decent big of respect also, even if some might be a little odd, they all come across as been very knowledgeable, in my group anyways.

hugo29 · 24-07-2013 02:49PM

whelan1 wrote: »

does everyone have a messer in their group? we do and the other group close by have one too, ok some times they lighten up the conversation but they can be so annoying

no dont think there is any messer as such, although there is one know it all. there is a bit banter but everyone is there to contribute, also agree with Red in that it takes a while for everyone to bed in and feel comfortable

hugo29 · 24-07-2013 02:54PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Give them a break, for some its probably the 1st bit of social interaction for afew weeks , but yep, mine has a big mix of say afew younger more ambitious farmers, and then older lads who are less interested in big expansion etc, but still do want to improve. I'll give the older lads a decent big of respect also, even if some might be a little odd, they all come across as been very knowledgeable, in my group anyways.

lol timmaay, wonder are the older lads saying the same thing about the young pups, we have lets say a more experienced man and by that i would say late 50s in our group and he tells some great stories about what they did in the earlier years to combat various problems

Dont be daft · 24-07-2013 03:13PM

hugo29 wrote: »

no dont think there is any messer as such

If ya can't spot the messer in the group, you are the messer in the group:P

Nothing worse than a group that shy away and don't want to talk. I was in two separate discussion groups.
One group was full of pups and the facilitator hardly got a word in edge-ways and the other nobody wanted to talk and they all just listened to the facilitator who wasn't all that bright to begin with.

Second group was a waste of time. Didn't take one thing away from them meetings only what I saw myself or put together myself.

bob charles · 24-07-2013 04:02PM

whelan1 wrote: »

would like to think not... the idea is everyone is helping everyone out not doing them over:rolleyes:

Suppose your right. Plenty of stuff has walked from my yard down through the years, had one fellow who was a dinger. Had my leg lifted manys the time aswell in my own yard but thats another story

Muckit · 24-07-2013 04:06PM

reilig wrote: »

It's only open to btap members.

Do they do a name check or could any chancer (aka me) walk in?

bob charles · 24-07-2013 04:17PM

Muckit wrote: »

Do they do a name check or could any chancer (aka me) walk in?

Big head on ya, would stick out like a dogs bo******:)

Muckit · 24-07-2013 04:22PM

I'I keep it well under wraps :pac:

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