Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

bad2dabone · 24-07-2013 12:55AM

Like Gerrard for you guys. Special having a one club legend in this day and age.

L'prof · 24-07-2013 12:57AM

Best player never to win the premier league? Can't say I feel too sorry for him with his champions league winners medal though!

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 24-07-2013 12:58AM

Actually the thing is that this **** will probably drag on for a while seeing as the bid was rejected and there's so much disagreement over the clause.

Maybe we'll get others done under the radar in the mean time.

Kess73 · 24-07-2013 01:04AM

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

Sorry I wasn't taking about yourself. Was just reading reddit and the likes and the Liverpool fans seem to be resorting more and more to tired clichés about arsenal to deflect from it.

You will rarely, if ever, see me going into threads of rival clubs to make any sort of dig. Think nearly every spat I have had in the footy forum has been in the Liverpool superthread.

I might disagree and debate stuff (along with talking my fair share of rubbish) in other superthreads, but I do like reading stuff about the players in other teams, about the background stuff at those clubs, and just hearing the stories told by supporters. It also gives a few new names to chat to for an hour or so every now and then, rather than having the same circular discussion in the LFC superthread.

Plus there are a few London clubs that I have had a soft spot for due to having spent a lot of my match going time travelling down to their grounds over the last 30 years give or take. Chelsea and Arsenal in particular I have a lot of good memories of over the years (even though the on pitch results did not always go our way) and I have tended to view the supporters of those two clubs in a fairly good light as a result.

12gauge dave · 24-07-2013 07:47AM

Whats going on at this stage?

Does anyone actually believe that arsene wenger actually bid 40million on suarez?? Maybe he did as a smoke screen knowing that liverpool would reject all to cover up another transfer in the works but there is no way im believing arsene wenger bid 40m on a player let alone it being suarez?

I dont know what to think at this stage?

wandatowell · 24-07-2013 08:07AM

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

I don't know if it's just me but the Liverpool fans seem to be getting more irritable so we must be getting somewhere!

Like when Barca pissed us off with their constant persuit of our players, b@stards!

speedboatchase · 24-07-2013 08:10AM

John W. Henry ‏@John_W_Henry

What do you think they're smoking over there at Emirates?

Yikes. Sounds like we'll need an extra £10m over so for Suarez if that's what Liverpool's owner thinks of the £40m bid.

KaiserGunner · 24-07-2013 08:23AM

speedboatchase wrote: »

John W. Henry ‏@John_W_Henry

What do you think they're smoking over there at Emirates?

Yikes. Sounds like we'll need an extra £10m over so for Suarez if that's what Liverpool's owner thinks of the £40m bid.

John Henry showing his "class" there. Hes just trying to look big for his Liverpool fans. He knows its inevitable that his prized asset wants out and will be leaving. Whether thats to us or not is an entirely different question.

.jacksparrow. · 24-07-2013 08:36AM

This higuan Suarez arsenal Madrid little saga is very interesting!

Marty McFly · 24-07-2013 08:40AM

Jesus even after we make a 40 million bid people are still being negative :eek:, yeh it no signing but it's a massive signal of intent by the club it's a start and there is no way in hell it was done as a smokescreen to say we tried.

We bid 40 million and 1 pound because either it means were allowed talk to Suarez or it's a release clause met seems to be differing opinions between Liverpool and what his agent thinks.

But if were allowed talk at a minimum now it's time to see if Wenger and Co. can sell the club and were they see it going.

cson · 24-07-2013 08:47AM

That Henry tweet is funny but he's either posturing or else Suarez really isn't for sale for less than £50m+

jester77 · 24-07-2013 08:51AM

speedboatchase wrote: »

John W. Henry ‏@John_W_Henry

What do you think they're smoking over there at Emirates?

Yikes. Sounds like we'll need an extra £10m over so for Suarez if that's what Liverpool's owner thinks of the £40m bid.

I wouldn't pay much attention to him, remember this is the club that valued Andy Carroll at 35 million. They don't get the concept of what things are worth over there.

TheGunns · 24-07-2013 09:00AM

There's no going back now really, bid is as good as confirmed. Will be a massive backlash if they don't sign someone big (not that there wouldn't have been one anyways)

.jacksparrow. · 24-07-2013 09:03AM

Never gonna get him just get hig

Pepe LeFrits · 24-07-2013 09:04AM

Kess73 wrote: »

How exactly?

Suarez has proven his footballing ability in two European leagues, has a better goals and assists per game ratio over his career to date than Cavani has at club level, and has a far superior goals/assists per game ratio at International level.

If you break it down into bulk figures for career goals, career games, and career assists, then Suarez beats Cavani on all three again.

So would love to know what makes Cavani the far more proven player.

His record in the Eredivisie and for the national team doesn't bear that much relevance really.

What carries by far the most importance is that Cavani has 3 prolific seasons in a top league, Suarez 1. Cavani has been highly coveted for three seasons, while it's only this season that Suarez has moved into that elite group of players that might command mega money transfers.

wawaman · 24-07-2013 09:12AM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Never gonna get him just get hig

That ship has sailed by the looks of things. Marca have put "farewell to Higuain" on todays front page. Due to be official in the next few hours. Just one bitey cannabilistic egg left in our basket

gosplan · 24-07-2013 09:15AM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Never gonna get him just get hig

Positives:

Being encouraged by Suarez agent

Not that far off Liverpool's valuation

Liverpool have to sell him

Liverpool will probably have to reinvest the cash so might need to get it wrapped up in next fortnight or so

No other clubs in so far

Negatives:
Real might be interested

.jacksparrow. · 24-07-2013 09:23AM

Once Madrid come in we have no chance, and they will.

batistuta9 · 24-07-2013 09:25AM

Hopefully Suarez pushes this through

Strike or whatever who cares, he's the type of player to push the club on and if he goes to Madrid after 2/3 seasons arsenal should be in a better position and he can be replaced

TheGunns · 24-07-2013 09:27AM

A positive of his price is we could sell him for more or a similar price to Madrid if he had a good season :pac:

Pepe LeFrits · 24-07-2013 09:28AM

To be honest at this stage I'd probably rather we just went for a prospect to compete with Giroud like Lamela, Damiao or El Shaarawy and spent money on other areas of the team (while CF is the most pressing area, we do need to improve elsewhere too) and kept our powder somewhat dry to use a Gazidis-ism.

Can't believe I just wrote that, but I don't want the club to spend a way over the top fee out of desperation. Leave Liverpool to Suarez; in the long run it may be better to keep the money out of their hands as I don't think they'll get 4th place with him and his value is unlikely to get any higher.

.jacksparrow. · 24-07-2013 09:29AM

People were saying Madrid were ***** for upping the price, but if hig goes to napoli for the price rumoured, I think its brilliant by Madrid, they played their cards well and got extra for him, and enough to buy Suarez.

That's how you do business.

ulinbac · 24-07-2013 09:29AM

This bid has given me a bit of fate again that:

- We ACTUALLY have money to spend unlike the stories from previous years
- There may be a chance of competing in the next 1/2 years
- Arsenal can bully financially for a change
- Liverpool fans are deluded!!
- Liverpool hung up on Carroll (very poor decision) and Torres (great business) transfers
- Wenger and Gazidis have a sense of humour £40m+1

Had to stop reading the article on BBC as L'pool fans were saying that its a sideways move, L'pool are a bigger club and that we are their top 4 rivals! When was the last time L'pool finished in top 4, 10 years??. Their fan base is growing slower than Arsenals. Their main rival is Everton and are not even top 4 contenders - Living in the past.

/rant

batistuta9 · 24-07-2013 09:37AM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

People were saying Madrid were ***** for upping the price, but if hig goes to napoli for the price rumoured, I think its brilliant by Madrid, they played their cards well and got extra for him, and enough to buy Suarez.

That's how you do business.

Who's to say that arsenal never actually bid for higuain after they found out saurez could be possibly signed and make a serious attempt for him

Then in return real up the price on higuain as they think saurez will wait for them

But they're not bidding, will he wait for them? In a way it could backfire on them

What if it's actually arsenal with the balls in all of this

Possible? :pac:

TheGunns · 24-07-2013 09:40AM

batistuta9 wrote: »

Who's to say that arsenal never actually bid for higuain after they found out saurez could be possibly signed and make a serious attempt for him

Then in return real up the price on higuain as they think saurez will wait for them

But they're not bidding, will he wait for them? In a way it could backfire on them

What if it's actually arsenal with the balls in all of this

Possible? :pac:

He has very little reason not to wait since he's banned for the first 6 games, I think it could drag to the end of the window.

Best case would be Madrid buying Bale and then Suarez is left with one option

batistuta9 · 24-07-2013 09:49AM

TheGunns wrote: »

He has very little reason not to wait since he's banned for the first 6 games, I think it could drag to the end of the window.

Best case would be Madrid buying Bale and then Suarez is left with one option

Though has it not been said he definitely wants to be at a CL club next season

& there was a story of real only valuing him at 25mil and the fact that with these arsenal bids they haven't had one in for him, they don't need the higuain sale to bid for him & their bidding on a PL player seems to be bale not him

gosplan · 24-07-2013 10:01AM

I would think that Madrid would have said something by now, like when Zidsne started banging on about Bale some time ago.

Also Madrid are not short on cash. They happily spent 70 or 80 million on their targets so far this year and don't need to sell to buy.

There's a couple of things I'm not sure about though.

Obv the bitey racist would add to any team but what system does ancellotti play? Would they spend 40-50 million on a backup striker? Would signing Bale force a 4-3-3 with Benzema up top?

I dunno, I guess I'm looking for reasons to be hopeful shout this. From experience Madrid don't do a whole lot discreetly so I'm surprised that we haven't heard more about Suarez from them if they're planning a bid as soon as Higuain gets sold.

Courtesy Flush · 24-07-2013 10:04AM

ulinbac wrote: »

This bid has given me a bit of fate again that:

- We ACTUALLY have money to spend unlike the stories from previous years
- There may be a chance of competing in the next 1/2 years
- Arsenal can bully financially for a change
- Liverpool fans are deluded!!
- Liverpool hung up on Carroll (very poor decision) and Torres (great business) transfers
- Wenger and Gazidis have a sense of humour £40m+1

Had to stop reading the article on BBC as L'pool fans were saying that its a sideways move, L'pool are a bigger club and that we are their top 4 rivals! When was the last time L'pool finished in top 4, 10 years??. Their fan base is growing slower than Arsenals. Their main rival is Everton and are not even top 4 contenders - Living in the past.

/rant

What you smokin

greendom · 24-07-2013 10:07AM

Apparently SSN has said that Suarez wants to play Champions League but won't push a move through. Without a transfer request I don't think anything will happen. If he's not prepared to change his stance we should drop our interest and look elsewhere.

jonneymendoza · 24-07-2013 10:13AM

greendom wrote: »

Apparently SSN has said that Suarez wants to play Champions League but won't push a move through. Without a transfer request I don't think anything will happen. If he's not prepared to change his stance we should drop our interest and look elsewhere.

Give RM 40m for Higuin instead

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