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And so it begins. Large scale internet censorship is coming.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    The entrepreneur in me wants to start selling,
    Porn - The Complete Internet Collection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    The entrepreneur in me wants to start selling,
    Porn - The Complete Internet Collection.

    have you got a couple of petabyte hard drives floating around?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    It's funny,all those years of fighting England for freedom and then using all their legislative templates over here just done shitter.

    Many on the thread need to have a listen to what Rabbite actually said before getting all Daily Mailed...

    “We shouldn't conflate two things,the reportage of Prime Minister Cameron’s statement conflates illegal material, obnoxious material, that is already illegal in Ireland. It is illegal in Scotland. It is not illegal, for complicated reasons, in England. But it is already illegal in Ireland.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Do we think it will actually happen?

    This reminds me, must go buy a 1TB hard drive for the Imminent Porn Apocalypse

    I'm grand, I've stuff on hardcopy. Girlfriend was a bit bemused by why I had magazines and DVDs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    FatherLen wrote: »
    have you got a couple of petabyte hard drives floating around?

    Would it not fit on a floppy disk...?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Would it not fit on a floppy disk...?

    I remember the days of a few images being given around at school on a disk, now you can pull out your smartphone and see all the porn ever.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Would it not fit on a floppy disk...?

    Maybe for the soft core...

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Maybe the blocking of porn will be the final
    straw and the Irish people will rise up against the government!!!

    Will certainly limit some people's ability to rise up, anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    A government has no right to be enforcing its morals on the masses. That's no different that how Al Queda forced Sharia Law and their morals on entire populations. No doubt they also said it was for the good of the people.

    Once censorship begins, groups with their own moral agenda will start pushing for things they consider immoral/wrong to be banned. Before you know it, you end up with a huge percentage of websites blocked..including many that you personally considered to be 'moral'. Welcome to China's version of the internet.

    I don't like everything that's on the internet. But we either take it as it is, or we accept a system where someone else gets to choose what we can see. I'd much rather be able to choose myself. It's a personal freedom I'm not willing to give up.

    The internet is a very special place. There are no borders, no nationalities. It's just people with complete freedom to speak their mind, and post their opinions. I may not agree with what everyone wants to say/view on the internet, but I will defend their right to do so. Otherwise I too may end up being censored.

    As for websites that have illegal content, well then you track down the owners/contributers and arrest them. You don't just blanket block sites as this would actually prevent such perverts/scum from being found.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭Shiny


    If a kid is old enough to figure out he/she wants to watch porn then they are old enough to figure out how to get around the controls preventing them from seeing it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    I'm grand, I've stuff on hardcopy. Girlfriend was a bit bemused by why I had magazines and DVDs.

    Pics or GTFO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    "Allah Akbar".:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Don't see why all the panties are getting in a twist,nothing's being banned all you got to do is ask to have it turned on.A nobel effort at protecting children surly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Hitchens wrote: »
    "Allah Akbar".:pac:

    It's a trap!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭Bits_n_Bobs


    Welcome to China's Google version of the internet.

    FYP


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    kneemos wrote: »
    Don't see why all the panties are getting in a twist,nothing's being banned all you got to do is ask to have it turned on.A nobel effort at protecting children surly.

    Not everyone has children, why does it need to be blocked by default?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭flyingsnail


    kneemos wrote: »
    Don't see why all the panties are getting in a twist,nothing's being banned all you got to do is ask to have it turned on.A nobel effort at protecting children surly.

    How about instead of blocking it for everybody the parents get off their backsides and ask for it just to be turned off in their house instead? Surely they should be more responsible for their children than me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    It's just a first step to block porn, then sites with "inappropriate content" and sites with "questionable content" will follow.
    Of course it's not up to us to dictate what this content is. It's up to some government sponsored PC think tank that will go along the lines of better safe than sorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    A government has no right to be enforcing its morals on the masses. That's no different that how Al Queda forced Sharia Law and their morals on entire populations. No doubt they also said it was for the good of the people.

    Once censorship begins, groups with their own moral agenda will start pushing for things they consider immoral/wrong to be banned. Before you know it, you end up with a huge percentage of websites blocked..including many that you personally considered to be 'moral'. Welcome to China's version of the internet.

    I don't like everything that's on the internet. But we either take it as it is, or we accept a system where someone else gets to choose what we can see. I'd much rather be able to choose myself. It's a personal freedom I'm not willing to give up.

    The internet is a very special place. There are no borders, no nationalities. It's just people with complete freedom to speak their mind, and post their opinions. I may not agree with what everyone wants to say/view on the internet, but I will defend their right to do so. Otherwise I too may end up being censored.

    As for websites that have illegal content, well then you track down the owners/contributers and arrest them. You don't just blanket block sites as this would actually prevent such perverts/scum from being found.

    That, it's one of our greatest resources for information and freedom of speech, whether you agree with that speech or not. There are forms of fap material I find questionable and wouldn't watch myself but I'm not about to go campaigning for banning it, obviously child or illegal stuff should be but as has been said a million times that's not easily gotten on google or some regular site.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    I say this as someone who is able to open thepiratebay.org/.sx without any proxies or modifications, I don't understand how they will be able to implement "filtering" of porn without some kind of serious infrastructure changes. Its not a case of just blocking a load of domains, blocking all adult content is hard.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    How about instead of blocking it for everybody the parents get off their backsides and ask for it just to be turned off in their house instead? Surely they should be more responsible for their children than me.

    To insure everyone gets blocked and only those that want it get it.A lot of parents may not be savvy or diligent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭johnr1


    Its a conspirasory by the gubberment to stop er bewbs Joe !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    kneemos wrote: »
    To insure everyone gets blocked and only those that want it get it.A lot of parents may not be savvy or diligent.

    You don't keel to the dumbest, you educate them, or they stay dumb.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    There is zero chance of this being implemented effectively. I don't understand why they are wasting tax payers money in trying


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    omahaid wrote: »
    There is zero chance of this being implemented effectively. I don't understand why they are wasting tax payers money in trying

    If they weren't wasting it on stuff like this it'd be on some other hamfisted idea. Wasting money is something government excel at. Wonder how many "media consultants" will be brought into wring their hands about this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    You don't keel to the dumbest, you educate them, or they stay dumb.

    On the contrary I would have thought.It's the dumbest that need protecting or the dumbest's children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    It reminds me of the time Fidelma Healy Eames came up with the idea of 2 hour time limits on games consoles. It might sound like a good idea to a group of old women, but when anyone with any sense sits down and thinks about the idea for more than 2 minutes, they slowly realise how it's impossible to do and an absolutly stupid idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭Christ the Redeemer


    how long before these fat ****ing wasters start calling anti government talk on the internet dangerous?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,386 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    Now I'm going to have to use google images just like i do with 3. FFS....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,860 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    I wish those politicians would just **** off and start fixing things that actually need fixing.

    Parents that are concerned their kids watch porn should get of their backsides and get informed and make sure they can set filters themselves.
    I really start to hate this pattern of everybody needs everything being spelled out for them. And the worst part is, our overlords are all too happy to oblige.


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