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And so it begins. Large scale internet censorship is coming.

  • 23-07-2013 12:19PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Taking responsiblity away from parents to monitor their children's internet usage and dumping the responsiblity on ISP's by making them block porn for everyone. It's idiotic.

    First it was the pirate bay, with other torrent sites soon to follow, and now they've started their moral crusade to block porn. And all done to the cry of "Won't someone think of the children!".

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0723/464077-explicit-content/

    Minister for Communications Pat Rabbitte has said he would be willing to take a look at proposals by the UK government, which aim to block children's access to sexually explicit material on the internet.
    The minister said he would be happy to examine a proposal by British Prime Minister David Cameron, which would see internet service providers installing family-friendly filters.
    Speaking on RTÉ's Morning Ireland, Mr Rabbitte said he would be willing to examine the possibility that a similar protocol could be agreed with ISPs in Ireland.
    However, he said Irish ISPs were "largely different" to the UK and that EU law prevents the imposition of mandatory measures.
    The Irish Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children has urged the Government to consider forcing internet service providers to block access to online pornography.
    Mr Cameron announced family-friendly filters would be automatically selected for all new customers by the end of the year, although they could choose to switch them off.
    Possessing violent pornography containing simulated rape scenes will be made a crime in England and Wales and videos streamed online in the UK will be subject to the same restrictions as those sold in shops.
    "I'm not making this speech because I want to moralise or scaremonger, but because I feel profoundly as a politician, and as a father, that the time for action has come," Mr Cameron said.
    A secure database of banned child porn images gathered by police will also be used to trace illegal content and the paedophiles viewing it.
    The British internet industry has agreed to use the database to proactively scan for, block and remove the images wherever they occur, Mr Cameron said.
    He has given search engines an October deadline to introduce further measures to block access to illegal content by blacklisting searches based on certain phrases, claiming they have a "moral duty" to act.
    A Google spokesman said: "We have a zero tolerance attitude to child sexual abuse imagery. Whenever we discover it, we respond quickly to remove and report it."
    The ISPCC has warned of the damaging effect of pornography on young minds, and on the relationships between young boys and girls.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭MickFleetwood


    Yep, rather than parents who don't want their child having access to porn simply blocking it and monitoring their web use, the government decide to administer a censorship on it. Of course you can revoke it at any time you want to continue doing what you're doing (ahem) but it's completely unnecessary and could possibly be an indicator of things to come.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    I got a feeling people that 'opt out' for it would be put on 'on watch' of their online activities... :|


    Why aren't they doing an Opt in method instead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Maybe the blocking of porn will be the final straw and the Irish people will rise up against the government!!

    At least it would make for funny headlines in the papers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    He's such a fcuking sheep. The UK are doing it so we better think about doing it too. Fat mindless arsehole..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Dempsey wrote: »
    Maybe the blocking of porn will be the final straw and the Irish people will rise up against the government!!

    At least it would make for funny headlines in the papers!

    You can take our jobs, our children's futures and our sovereignty, but take our bewbs? too far!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,895 ✭✭✭bizmark


    need to block porn for the children need to block blogs cause "hate crimes" need to outlaw critisism against the government cause its unpatriotic bleh

    Our countrys have become a joke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    He's such a fcuking sheep. The UK are doing it so we better think about doing it too. Fat mindless arsehole..

    Our ministers seem to be employed on the basis they know absolutely nothing about the thing they're minster for. Old ignorant people in charge or communications, fat people for health etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    You'll all just have to fork out for dvds.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    krudler wrote: »
    Our ministers seem to be elected on the basis they know absolutely nothing about the thing they're minster for. Old ignorant people in charge or communications, fat people for health etc.

    we dont elect ministers for the positions they go on to hold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Where's there a willy there's a way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    we dont elect ministers for the positions they go on to hold.

    Good point, edited.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Lads, organised criminal gangs, twisted depraved perverts and fundamentalist nutjobs all over the world must be so proud of you guys defending their civil liberties.

    What are you all so upset about? Everyone knows from the inception of the world wide Web, that attempts will be made to regulate it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,306 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    I'm not seeing the problem.
    He said he 'was willing to examine the possibility' and added a caveat about how Irish ISPs are different - Surely thats as neutral a non-answer as he could have given.
    An outright NO would have led to 'Minster doesn't care about sex industry victims' press releases by the usual organisations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    In fairness, he was caught on the hop; I was listening to the interview on the way to work this morning, the question arose at the end of an exchange about the sale of state assets.

    I don't think we should assume his response, which was very vague, is indicative of Government policy.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    I'm not seeing the problem.
    He said he 'was willing to examine the possibility' and added a caveat about how Irish ISPs are different - Surely thats as neutral a non-answer as he could have given.
    An outright NO would have led to 'Minster doesn't care about sex industry victims' press releases by the usual organisations.

    That was a similar thing Cameron said. This all came from the Daily Mail going to him about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭intellectual dosser


    Women better prepare for a lot more grinding and groping in Niteclubs....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭DipStick McSwindler


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭SweepTheLeg


    You'll all just have to fork out for dvds.

    It's not about Porn. When the government starts putting blocks on legal things, you need to be worried.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    What about newsgroups ? have they been blocked yet in Ireland ?

    I guess they are harder to block tho ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭HellboundIRL


    I don't like how they mention violent and child pornography in the same breath they talk about blocking regular porn, as if it's just as bad.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭returnNull


    Lads, organised criminal gangs, twisted depraved perverts and fundamentalist nutjobs all over the world must be so proud of you guys defending their civil liberties.

    What are you all so upset about? Everyone knows from the inception of the world wide Web, that attempts will be made to regulate it.

    thats some brain fart there..if they go the same way as the retards across the water they will attempt to block legal porn which is censorship not regulation.And as easy to get around as the ISP blockade on the piratebay...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭DipStick McSwindler


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,380 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    He's such a fcuking sheep. The UK are doing it so we better think about doing it too. Fat mindless arsehole..
    i thought he wasn't doing it and the mammys and daddys asked him to?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 584 ✭✭✭dizzywizlw


    Another case of the Ignorant making laws for the Ignorant. Parents should do their goddamn jobs properly and take responsibility for their children's behaviour.

    Sit down and educate yourself and control the internet in your house or don't have it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Will rape scenes be blocked from films too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭EyeSight


    BeerWolf wrote: »
    I got a feeling people that 'opt out' for it would be put on 'on watch' of their online activities... :|


    Why aren't they doing an Opt in method instead?

    i agree. an opt in, basically a check box when signing up with an ISP, is the most logical way to do it.
    I think they want to shame people into not opting out


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Dominik Magnificent Squad


    The Irish Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children has urged the Government to consider forcing internet service providers to block access to online pornography.
    Dafuq
    What has normal porn got to do with them?
    How about urging more parental responsibility?
    Sod off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    The Internet.
    A sort of "bad experiment". The only man made object ever made.... that man couldnt control.



    At least thats how the story used to go:(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    It's funny,all those years of fighting England for freedom and then using all their legislative templates over here just done shitter.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭DipStick McSwindler


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