Gay Marriage poll reveals that Ireland still has a depressing amount of morons in it

Foxhound38 · 17-07-2013 09:09PM #1

http://www.thejournal.ie/poll-how-will-you-vote-on-gay-marriage-997136-Jul2013/

At the time of posting this, 45% or 3551 people have indicated that they intend to vote against giving gay people the right to be as miserable in matrimoney as the rest of us.

I just can't believe this many people, on that site of all sites, could be still living in backwards land...

Pai Mei · 17-07-2013 09:11PM

Don't underestimate the height of human stupidity...

For Forks Sake · 17-07-2013 09:12PM

A journal poll is not a poll in much the same fashion as a journal report is not actually reported. the site is a haven for every form of extremist (left and right wing) nutjob with an internet connection. I wouldn't get too worried about it.

December2012 · 17-07-2013 09:12PM

It surprised me too.

Sir Osis of Liver. · 17-07-2013 09:13PM

Here we go.

AngeGal · 17-07-2013 09:13PM

An online poll is open to manipulation and not a reliable indicator.

Amirani · 17-07-2013 09:13PM

Pai Mei wrote: »

Don't underestimate the height of human stupidity...

Or the power of certain interest groups to swarm certain polls. I'd say there's definitely more than 50% of the Irish population in favour.

Sh1tbag OToole · 17-07-2013 09:13PM

If its so miserable then is it really worth it?

I would happily give my right to marry away to some gay lad who has been campaigning for it for years, because I honestly don't see the point anymore and cant imagine myself ever using that right.

The people who are able to do the long term commitment necessary for marriage must be in the minority in todays selfish "me, me, me, must upgrade my partner to a better model", "live for the moment", "here today, gone tomorrow" world.

Leroy42 · 17-07-2013 09:14PM

Are they simply stupid because they do not agree with your viewpoint?

Lucena · 17-07-2013 09:16PM

I'd have expected more people to be against gay marriage to be honest. I think it's progress.

Although having said that, since gay marriage came in in France, you can't move for assless chaps! :P

Zhane · 17-07-2013 09:16PM

It genuinely frightens me that the Irish people will vote no on this.

Amirani · 17-07-2013 09:16PM

Leroy42 wrote: »

Are they simply stupid because they do not agree with your viewpoint?

No, because they have such an over-inflated opinion of their own viewpoint that they feel the need to make everyone else adhere to it. That's a pretty stupid attitude to have.

Pai Mei · 17-07-2013 09:19PM

Leroy42 wrote: »

Are they simply stupid because they do not agree with your viewpoint?

Not what I was saying. However I am yet to meet a genuinely smart person give an intelligent reason for opposing gay marriage.

1ZRed · 17-07-2013 09:21PM

Tbh I never understood what right they think they have to decide my rights and whether or not I'm allowed to marry.

I'm not surprised though, there's still a massive heap of backward morons in the country, they scuttled out of the woodwork with the abortion legislation and I doubt they'll be ****ing off any time soon unfortunately.

lazygal · 17-07-2013 09:21PM

Leroy42 wrote: »

Are they simply stupid because they do not agree with your viewpoint?

Sometimes yes. There's no non stupid reason to oppose gay marriage.

Foxhound38 · 17-07-2013 09:21PM

Leroy42 wrote: »

Are they simply stupid because they do not agree with your viewpoint?

They're stupid because they wish to prevent 2 people who are minding their own business from doing something that would not affect them or anyone else in the slightest, but would make the 2 involved much happier.

I can't even believe we're still having this debate in 21st Century Ireland...

Femme_Fatale · 17-07-2013 09:22PM

lazygal wrote: »

There's no non stupid reason to oppose gay marriage.

Some people have no problem with civil partnership but believe marriage should only be between a man and a woman. I completely disagree with that but I'm not sure it's stupid.

omahaid · 17-07-2013 09:24PM

Feckin democracy :mad:

Leroy42 · 17-07-2013 09:24PM

@Niallsparky, they were asked their opinion and gave it. How you can infer that it is either over-inflated or that they are forcing others to adhere to it I don't know.

A time will come when we will be asked to vote on it, and everyone will have their voice. Just because people disagree with your viewpoint doesn't make them stupid or indeed wrong. If these things were black and white then we would never have a division in the 1st place.

padd b1975 · 17-07-2013 09:24PM

For Forks Sake wrote: »

A journal poll is not a poll in much the same fashion as a journal report is not actually reported. the site is a haven for every form of extremist (left and right wing) nutjob with an internet connection. I wouldn't get too worried about it.

After Hours on the other hand......

Sh1tbag OToole · 17-07-2013 09:25PM

Foxhound38 wrote: »

They're stupid because they wish to prevent 2 people who are minding their own business from doing something that would not affect them or anyone else in the slightest, but would make the 2 involved much happier.

I can't even believe we're still having this debate in 21st Century Ireland...

Maybe its for their own good.

Maybe straight people should be relinquishing their right to marry. People move around too much, are always looking for something better, people change. As "progress" progresses it will be easier to get divorced. People will get married on a whim like they do in the States. What is the point of it all?

If 2 people truly want to stay together they don't need the State (who are a worthless pack of bastards anyway) to approve, or recognise or otherwise acknowledge that fact. It should be none of their business

theSHU · 17-07-2013 09:26PM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Some people have no problem with civil partnership but believe marriage should only be between a man and a woman. I completely disagree with that but I'm not sure it's stupid.

That would be their own definition though. Why don't we all just allow each other to define our own happiness in life.

lazygal · 17-07-2013 09:27PM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Some people have no problem with civil partnership but believe marriage should only be between a man and a woman. I completely disagree with that but I'm not sure it's stupid.

I'm sure it is stupid. I've heard no non stupid reason to oppose gay marriage.

Jamie Cal · 17-07-2013 09:31PM

I always think it's funny when the anti-equality crew say s**t like "well, if can marry a man, what can you do next, marry your dog?" like that wouldn't be the most fun thing in the world.

cletus van damme · 17-07-2013 09:34PM

omahaid wrote: »

Feckin democracy :mad:

terrible thing - should be taken away from us and given to the Burmese - we clearly don't deserve it cos of some people had the cheek to voice an opinion against to the "accepted" view.

lazygal · 17-07-2013 09:34PM

Jamie Cal wrote: »

I always think it's funny when the anti-equality crew say s**t like "well, if can marry a man, what can you do next, marry your dog?" like that wouldn't be the most fun thing in the world.

And where gay marriages take place no straight people get married any more, and straight people get divorced because their marriages are now worthless.

krudler · 17-07-2013 09:35PM

Jamie Cal wrote: »

I always think it's funny when the anti-equality crew say s**t like "well, if can marry a man, what can you do next, marry your dog?" like that wouldn't be the most fun thing in the world.

I like when people stoop to that level of stupidity, it's a nice red flag to indicate they're beyond rational thought and can just be ignored.

1ZRed · 17-07-2013 09:37PM

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

Maybe its for their own good.

Maybe straight people should be relinquishing their right to marry. People move around too much, are always looking for something better, people change. As "progress" progresses it will be easier to get divorced. People will get married on a whim like they do in the States. What is the point of it all?

If 2 people truly want to stay together they don't need the State(who are a worthless pack of bastards anyway) to approve, or recognise or otherwise acknowledge that fact. It should be none of their business

They do if they want legal protection for their children as one example, otherwise if parent dies the children have no legal guardian and will lose both in one fell swoop. It's not for their own good at all.

Derpington95 · 17-07-2013 09:39PM

Leroy42 wrote: »

Are they simply stupid because they do not agree with your viewpoint?

It depends on the reasons as to why they don't agree with the viewpoint :cool:

17-07-2013 09:40PM

150 years ago in this country most marriages were arranged. I know people from my parents generation (getting married in the 1970's) who didn't marry a boyfriend/girlfriend because they were Protestant and the families were against it. Until 1995 1st cousins could marry in Ireland.

If you're straight you can marry someone because they're a millionaire or because they have a boob job and if that doesn't work out you can marry someone else. Marriage isn't a sacred institution it's only as strong as the two people involved.

It's no one elses business if those two people happen to be a man and a man or a woman and a woman.

Sh1tbag OToole · 17-07-2013 09:40PM

1ZRed wrote: »

They do if they want legal protection for their children as one example, otherwise if parent dies the children have no legal guardian and will lose both in one fell swoop. It's not for their own good at all.

That could be done with a simple form that states who 'owns' the child. Could have multiple backups on it incase more than one person dies. Without commiting two people to a lifetime of misery together

Gay Marriage poll reveals that Ireland still has a depressing amount of morons in it

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