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Security operation's for funerals

  • 17-07-2013 12:51PM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭


    In Dundalk today, Seamus McKenna is getting laid to rest after dying in an accident after he fell from scaffolding while repairing a roof at a school in the town.

    He was acquitted of all charges in relation to Omagh.

    Armed checkpoints have been set up all around the area, Vans full of Riot police were lined up outside Dundalk barracks this morning and the mounted unit are on standby.
    Even a Gardai helicopter is monitoring the funeral FFS

    Can they not just let the mans family rest him in peace?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    Ever wonder that it could be there in order to keep the peace?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    In Dundalk today, Seamus McKenna is getting laid to rest after dying in an accident after he fell from scaffolding while repairing a roof at a school in the town.

    He was acquitted of all charges in relation to Omagh.

    Armed checkpoints have been set up all around the area, Vans full of Riot police were lined up outside Dundalk barracks this morning and the mounted unit are on standby.
    Even a Gardai helicopter is monitoring the funeral FFS

    Can they not just let the mans family rest him in peace?

    Well it's quite possible he will get a "Military" funeral with a gun salute and nobody should be allowed walk the streets with a balaclava and an illegal firearm. Maybe a Garda presence will deter that carry-on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭MonstaMash


    Intelligence gathering exercise by The State


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Jester252 wrote: »
    Ever wonder that it could be there in order to keep the peace?

    Many times traveler funerals in Dundalk end up in fights, pubs smashed up in a certain area of the town.

    Should all these funerals get the same treatment?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    In Dundalk today, Seamus McKenna is getting laid to rest after dying in an accident after he fell from scaffolding while repairing a roof at a school in the town.

    He was acquitted of all charges in relation to Omagh.

    Armed checkpoints have been set up all around the area, Vans full of Riot police were lined up outside Dundalk barracks this morning and the mounted unit are on standby.
    Even a Gardai helicopter is monitoring the funeral FFS

    Can they not just let the mans family rest him in peace?

    I am sure that once the mans family and friends keep the peace the Gardai will leave them in peace.
    By the way you forgot to mention the fact that In 2003, McKenna was found by gardai making a 1,200lb bomb at a remote farm in Co Louth. He was sentenced to six years in Portlaoise prison.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,557 ✭✭✭KeithM89


    In Dundalk today, Seamus McKenna is getting laid to rest after dying in an accident after he fell from scaffolding while repairing a roof at a school in the town.

    He was acquitted of all charges in relation to Omagh.

    Armed checkpoints have been set up all around the area, Vans full of Riot police were lined up outside Dundalk barracks this morning and the mounted unit are on standby.
    Even a Gardai helicopter is monitoring the funeral FFS

    Can they not just let the mans family rest him in peace?

    Clearly a preventative measure, the last time someone like that died, there was a shootout at the graveyard on the Newry road.
    Helicopter did wake me though, the bastard. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Show him the same respect that he showed to his fellow human beings


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭Almaviva


    MonstaMash wrote: »
    Intelligence gathering exercise by The State

    Agree. Just let them get on with their job. Its what they're paid to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    In Dundalk today, Seamus McKenna is getting laid to rest after dying in an accident after he fell from scaffolding while repairing a roof at a school in the town.

    He was acquitted of all charges in relation to Omagh.

    Armed checkpoints have been set up all around the area, Vans full of Riot police were lined up outside Dundalk barracks this morning and the mounted unit are on standby.
    Even a Gardai helicopter is monitoring the funeral FFS

    Can they not just let the mans family rest him in peace?

    I agree. Murderous scum should have the same rights as everyone else. But to be fair, the gardai are, as someone pointed out, officers of the peace. They are there to insure it is peaceful. I doubt they'll be hanging arounf behind the mourners screaming orders at each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    Many times traveler funerals in Dundalk end up in fights, pubs smashed up in a certain area of the town.

    Should all these funerals get the same treatment?

    Many travelers aren't assoicated with a know terror group.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Many times traveler funerals in Dundalk end up in fights, pubs smashed up in a certain area of the town.

    Should all these funerals get the same treatment?

    Well done , you just attempted to derail your own thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    The assumption in the OP is that the Garda presence is to hassle the man's family.

    Looks like the old 'RA attitude of us -v- them never dies, does it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    seamus wrote: »
    The assumption in the OP is that the Garda presence is to hassle the man's family.

    Looks like the old 'RA attitude of us -v- them never dies, does it?

    Its not an assumption, The pictures of the guards standing beside the priest and all around the actual grave while the burial was taken place is sickening


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Its not an assumption, The pictures of the guards standing beside the priest and all around the actual grave while the burial was taken place is sickening

    Not as sickening as the thought of the huge bomb he was assembling when he was caught going off, if he wasn't guilty of Omagh (big if) he was planning worse when caught!:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    I am sure that once the mans family and friends keep the peace the Gardai will leave them in peace.

    Like they did for Ruari O Bradaigh's funeral? This will be another bully boy exercise by the state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Bambi wrote: »
    Like they did for Ruari O Bradaigh's funeral? This will be another bully boy exercise by the state.

    Rory Brady?

    Bully away there, state!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Its not an assumption, The pictures of the guards standing beside the priest and all around the actual grave while the burial was taken place is sickening
    Looks pretty peaceful to me:
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPYAQ2gCAAA6RP1.jpg:large

    They're not standing beside the priest and around the grave, you can clearly see the mourners filing past Gardai towards the grave. Gardai for their part appear to be standing quietly and respectfully.

    Unless you have other pictures?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Bambi wrote: »
    Like they did for Ruari O Bradaigh's funeral? This will be another bully boy exercise by the state.

    I doubt if the state will detonate a 1,200 lb bomb in the middle of them, like McKenna was planning when he was caught!
    For my money the state can bully the hell out of the likes of him to their hearts content.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    seamus wrote: »
    Looks pretty peaceful to me:
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPYAQ2gCAAA6RP1.jpg:large

    They're not standing beside the priest and around the grave, you can clearly see the mourners filing past Gardai towards the grave. Gardai for their part appear to be standing quietly and respectfully.

    Unless you have other pictures?



    http://www.thejournal.ie/funeral-ruairi-o-bradaigh-gardai-942709-Jun2013/#slide-slideshow4

    Job done


    Years ago I attended the funeral of a guy who in a paramilitary. The gardai did everything they could to disrupt and antagonize the mourners. Stopped cars leaving the church to break up the cortege, had a chopper hover right over of the grave so the priest couldn't be heard, had a gangload of gardai behind the mourners sniggering and joking the whole time. I was told the local super actually apologized to the family a while later and said the operation was organised at a higher level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Bambi wrote: »
    http://www.thejournal.ie/funeral-ruairi-o-bradaigh-gardai-942709-Jun2013/#slide-slideshow4

    Job done


    Years ago I attended the funeral of a guy who in a paramilitary. The gardai did everything they could to disrupt and antagonize the mourners. Stopped cars leaving the church to break up the cortege, had a chopper hover right over of the grave so the priest couldn't be heard, had a gangload of gardai behind the mourners sniggering and joking the whole time. I was told the local super actually apologized to the family a while later and said the operation was organised at a higher level.

    Good stuff.

    The disruption that is. Not the apology.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    I doubt if the state will detonate a 1,200 lb bomb in the middle of them, like McKenna was planning when he was caught!
    For my money the state can bully the hell out of the likes of him to their hearts content.

    I that meant to be a counter point? Jesus wept


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    endacl wrote: »
    Good stuff.

    The disruption that is. Not the apology.

    My word, we have an internet hardmen. A rare breed indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Bambi wrote: »
    My word, we have an internet hardmen. A rare breed indeed.

    How did you get 'hardman' from that? Smartarse certainly. Another common breed, I'll admit. You need to work on your taxonomy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Bambi wrote: »
    ? Don't see the issue.

    Gardai appear to be keeping their distance from the actual graveside during the burial, the conflicts between them and the attendees possibly indicate that their presence was a good thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Bambi wrote: »
    Jesus wept

    If he did it wasn't for the likes of McKenna, more likely his victims.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    Its not an assumption, The pictures of the guards standing beside the priest and all around the actual grave while the burial was taken place is sickening

    Would you prefer them to have been dressed up as "soldiers" wearing army surplus gear and balaclavas?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Bambi wrote: »
    My word, we have an internet hardmen. A rare breed indeed.

    Not as hard as a bloke who builds a fcukoff huge bomb. Those guys are really tough.

    personally, I'd prefer someone who says stuff on the net to someone who kills or plans to kill children. People like McKenna are utter scum and the world is better off without them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    In Dundalk today, Seamus McKenna is getting laid to rest after dying in an accident after he fell from scaffolding while repairing a roof at a school in the town.

    He was acquitted of all charges in relation to Omagh.

    Armed checkpoints have been set up all around the area, Vans full of Riot police were lined up outside Dundalk barracks this morning and the mounted unit are on standby.
    Even a Gardai helicopter is monitoring the funeral FFS

    Can they not just let the mans family rest him in peace?

    His family could have had a private funeral if they wanted peace and quiet, did you think there would be no garda presence at his funeral?
    Lets make a hero out of him now, send him off in the usual blaze of glory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Cool_CM wrote: »
    Would you prefer them to have been dressed up as "soldiers" wearing army surplus gear and balaclavas?

    Nonononono!

    Standard uniform for republican funerals is black slacks (slightly too short), tightly belted under beerbelly, and white shirt, tightly stretched over beerbelly.

    Beret and petrol station sunglasses optional.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,677 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    OP knows full well it was to prevent people shooting illegal automatic weapons in the air.

    This was the sole purpose of the operation.


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