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Addiction to coke. Katy French's ex speaks out

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  • #62
    truebluesac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭truebluesac


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Ok

    I am going back to the real world now you enjoy your ivory tower ;)

    Thanks i quiet like it up here have a nice night


  • #63
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,193 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    truebluesac wrote: »
    She is dead she is a victim . Just because she done somthing bad on the way or made bad choices doesnt make her any less a victim.

    For instance sombody who drives badly by speeding or bad practice if they die in a road crash they are still called a victim .

    Dont take away from the fact that this was a young life tragically lost to the world of crime and drugs


    She lied about the fact that she was still using, I just don't buy into this idea that she was the innocent girl from the good middle class home who was lead astray by the big bad drug dealer and had no idea what she was doing.

    2 other drug users died that week as well, they barely made the news and there was certainly no talk about their inquests, reason being they weren't rich or "famous".


  • #64
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    truebluesac wrote: »
    Well for the majority of folk they have been pressured into somthing in their adult life . Could have been getting or changing a car or kitchen , boss and team pressireing ya into staying late in work .

    Not all peer pressure is of an illegal type and doesnt have to be a big or life changing decision , but it happens

    Sorry for the ivory tower remark i was out of order.

    Being pressured into buying a car or a kitchen is different. You can always change your mind and it's not illegal. Once you smoke a joint, pop a pill or snort a line then you have broken the law and also taken the first step on a very nasty road towards addiction. Not everyone will become an addict and not all addicts will die but as sure as **** stinks if one does die they won't get the press she did.


  • #65
    truebluesac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭truebluesac


    Exactly she was then used by the media as their poster boy against drugs and the tragady of drug use etc....

    Dont know the ins or out of her drug use claims or lifstyle , her death and the likes of amy winehouse hit the head linds cause they are already in them . They are somtimes in the headlines for the wrong reasons , but when they died the media used them


  • #66
    el dude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭el dude


    desbrook wrote: »
    Personally I think people who knowingly take illegal drugs should be left last to be treated . The genuinely ill deserve to be treated first .

    I suppose smokers and drinkers should be denied treatment too? :rolleyes:


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  • #67
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    truebluesac wrote: »
    Exactly she was then used by the media as their poster boy against drugs and the tragady of drug use etc....

    Dont know the ins or out of her drug use claims or lifstyle , her death and the likes of amy winehouse hit the head linds cause they are already in them . They are somtimes in the headlines for the wrong reasons , but when they died the media used them

    Use them by all means but do not make them out to be poor victims let kids know that drugs kill and it don't matter who you are or where your'e from drugs know no social boundries and will kill you. Scare the **** out of em so they are afraid to take a paracetomol without parents permission.


  • #68
    truebluesac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭truebluesac


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Sorry for the ivory tower remark i was out of order.

    Being pressured into buying a car or a kitchen is different. You can always change your mind and it's not illegal. Once you smoke a joint, pop a pill or snort a line then you have broken the law and also taken the first step on a very nasty road towards addiction. Not everyone will become an addict and not all addicts will die but as sure as **** stinks if one does die they won't get the press she did.

    Haha nah your fine , pressure is pressure , it doesnt matter if what the outcome is leagal or not . The result is still the same having to live with the cosiquences . If ya are pressured into having 1 line and have no ill effects you can live to regret it , if your pressured into buying a new car or kitchen and recieve it you stuck with s loan for 5 years but at least ya have your health and somthing to show for it . Depends on how deep you get in .

    Again kids dont do drugs they are bad for ya


  • #69
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    el dude wrote: »
    I suppose smokers and drinkers should be denied treatment too? :rolleyes:

    Yes your'e right they should be lower on the list. There is a reason drinkers don't get new livers and smokers don't get new lungs they don't even make the transplant lists. Alcohol and cigarettes should be taxed to the hilt. Healthcare costs 3 billion a year? Lets make 2.5 billion of that on alcohol and cig tax.


  • #70
    truebluesac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭truebluesac


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Use them by all means but do not make them out to be poor victims let kids know that drugs kill and it don't matter who you are or where your'e from drugs know no social boundries and will kill you. Scare the **** out of em so they are afraid to take a paracetomol without parents permission.

    Use them yes . But i never said they where the poor victim . There is only a slight amount of pity that she was young and if not for the drugs would potentially have her life ahead of her . I did say they where victims because they where ,

    Abit of empathy in the world please people


  • #71
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    truebluesac wrote: »
    Haha nah your fine , pressure is pressure , it doesnt matter if what the outcome is leagal or not . The result is still the same having to live with the cosiquences . If ya are pressured into having 1 line and have no ill effects you can live to regret it , if your pressured into buying a new car or kitchen and recieve it you stuck with s loan for 5 years but at least ya have your health and somthing to show for it . Depends on how deep you get in .

    Again kids dont do drugs they are bad for ya

    Drugs are bad mmmmkayyyyyyy :D


    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7l8dx-h8M&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DUh7l8dx-h8M


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  • #72
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    truebluesac wrote: »
    Use them yes . But i never said they where the poor victim . There is only a slight amount of pity that she was young and if not for the drugs would potentially have her life ahead of her . I did say they where victims because they where ,

    Abit of empathy in the world please people

    Sorry but i will never see them as victims.


  • #73
    truebluesac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭truebluesac


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Yes your'e right they should be lower on the list. There is a reason drinkers don't get new livers and smokers don't get new lungs they don't even make the transplant lists. Alcohol and cigarettes should be taxed to the hilt. Healthcare costs 3 billion a year? Lets make 2.5 billion of that on alcohol and cig tax.

    I enjoy a pint or 2 but not to excess , why should i have to pay for abusers faults ?


  • #74
    Meangadh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭Meangadh


    In all fairness, most of us probably had never even heard of her til she died. And had she been some ordinary Josephine Soap and not a model, we still wouldn't have heard of her.

    The girl was silly, naive and living in a fickle world where associating with the likes of Kieron Ducie was some sort of status because he had money, access to drugs and hung around with pretty girls who wanted to get their names out there. Not saying that those times are over but it was certainly typical Celtic Tiger behaviour.

    It's not a world I would ever want to live in, I don't care how pretty she was. The girl is dead and not amount of arguing whether she was a victim or not is going to bring her back. The media just need to let it go now, or else run the risk of making her out to be some sort of martyr. Plenty of other young people in every corner of Ireland die from drug abuse and don't get half the publicity Katy French does, to the point of almost glamourising her death. It smacks of Barry Egan/Sunday Independent rag journalism. It's done. Let the girl rest.


  • #75
    truebluesac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭truebluesac


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Sorry but i will never see them as victims.

    Thats your opinion . And you are entitled to it in the same way all us misguided adults are :)


  • #76
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    truebluesac wrote: »
    I enjoy a pint or 2 but not to excess , why should i have to pay for abusers faults ?

    The same reason that i as a non drinker non smoker pays and has paid for 25 years


  • #77
    downonthefarm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭downonthefarm


    did she used to party with that Alison canavan girl? the sad fact is this girl was a junkie. having spent my twenties around coke and people in its orbit I can tell you she would have gone to the ends of the earth to get her stuff.blaming fame or anything else is a non starter.she f***ed up and paid the ultimate price. life moves on.


  • #78
    Mark Tapley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Mark Tapley


    We are all responsible for our own decisions. It shouldn't stop you having some empathy for someone who makes a bad choice. It would appear some people never put a foot wrong.


  • #79
    kerryguy78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭kerryguy78


    well none of us can throw stones but when is it goin to sink in to ppls heads dat the drugs don't work they just make u worse!!!! Sad dat she died but she danced with the devil, and stood on his foot!!!!


  • #80
    ShagNastii
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    MickFleetwood wrote: »
    Who the fúck is Katy French?


    She was our Lady Di.


  • #81
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    ShagNastii wrote: »
    She was our Lady Di.

    Pffft....you didn't see Brian Kennedy writing her a song? (he would be our Elton John right?)


    'Goodbye my coked up attention seeking whore...'


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  • #82
    liamygunner29
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭liamygunner29


    kerryguy78 wrote: »
    well none of us can throw stones but when is it goin to sink in to ppls heads dat the drugs don't work they just make u worse!!!! Sad dat she died but she danced with the devil, and stood on his foot!!!!

    'Dat' song is about Ashcroft's fathers Chemotherapy.

    I'm not going to go into the coffee, alcohol are drugs speech as it is as common as calling out a Fianna Failr here on boards but at the same time step down from the alter with that nonsense. 'she danced with the devil and stood on his foot!!!!'

    Fr. Trendy is everywhere tonight.


  • #83
    kerryguy78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭kerryguy78


    hey did u read my post 'none of us can throw stones', i'm no angel.


  • #84
    kerryguy78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭kerryguy78


    Ppl r just so hungry for fame dey will do neting to fit in and get it


  • #85
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    She was a bit well known, that's why there was more media coverage of her - mostly just by the Independent Newspaper group, because glorifying models is what it does.
    Anonymous people don't get column inches and she wasn't completely anonymous. I'm not saying it's right and I also found the fawning and viewing of her as an innocent victim to be grotesque, but it's the way it goes - it's not that shocking.

    I know she made her own choice and it was stupid to use the drug to that excess, but I still hate the "No sympathy" stuff. I can't see how there can't even be just a bit of sympathy for someone who died so young, even if it was her own fault.


  • #86
    minidazzler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    truebluesac wrote: »
    She was young impressionable and led to a point where at some stage she taught drug taking was the norm and excessive drug taking made ya the one .the girl had neither the life experience nor the right guidance to make the right decisions in her life .

    Among models it tends to be the norm.


  • #87
    hawkwind23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭hawkwind23


    'She had no limit when it came to coke, she always wanted more'

    sounds like any person who takes cocaine on a regular basis.
    dont see the headline shock


  • #88
    liamygunner29
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭liamygunner29


    its probably also worth considering that cocaine is a hell of a drug.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/a-nation-addicted-cocaine--britains-deadly-habit-424911.html

    it could happen anybody.


  • #89
    The Narrator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭The Narrator


    This is a nothing story that has dragged on for six fckin years.

    I hate the media in this country.

    I never had any sympathy, but at this stage I'm starting to hate the woman....and I didn't even know who she was when she died..


  • #90
    LizT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭LizT


    kerryguy78 wrote: »
    well none of us can throw stones but when is it goin to sink in to ppls heads dat the drugs don't work they just make u worse!!!! Sad dat she died but she danced with the devil, and stood on his foot!!!!
    kerryguy78 wrote: »
    Ppl r just so hungry for fame dey will do neting to fit in and get it
    kerryguy78 wrote: »
    hey did u read my post 'none of us can throw stones', i'm no angel.


    Mod

    As per charter, please don't use text speak here.


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  • #91
    Liv Thousands Oats
    Posts: 5,926 ✭✭✭ Liv Thousands Oats


    I always thought she was older that 24, crikey she was very young


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