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Anyone following Paul Kimages' TdF video diary? **Mod Warning OP**

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  • #122
    kfod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭kfod


    laraghrider wrote: »
    I'm well aware of the "issues" football has in this area but far as I'm aware Drogba nor Chelsea have ever been sanctioned with drugs.

    This might be a bit o/t but...

    What is the drug testing regime in football like? I think in the NBA there is basically no drug testing for the entire playoffs which obviously leaves the system wide open for abuse.

    I think that whatever problems cycling has at least this debate is going on now (and with the last 20 odd years :( )

    Saying Drogba nor Chelsea have never been sanctioned with drugs sounds to my ears a bit like LA never having been tested positive in 10 billion tests.


  • #123
    RobFowl
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,683 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    kfod wrote: »
    This might be a bit o/t but...

    What is the drug testing regime in football like? I think in the NBA there is basically no drug testing for the entire playoffs which obviously leaves the system wide open for abuse.

    I think that whatever problems cycling has at least this debate is going on now (and with the last 20 odd years :( )

    Saying Drogba nor Chelsea have never been sanctioned with drugs sounds to my ears a bit like LA never having been tested positive in 10 billion tests.

    Very limited testing in competition and no real out of competition testing (some testing at organised training sessions at clubs but no whereabouts)


  • #124
    laraghrider
    Closed Accounts Posts: 663 ✭✭✭laraghrider


    kfod wrote: »
    This might be a bit o/t but...

    What is the drug testing regime in football like?

    In truth there is next to no testing in football. They only do urine testing which modern techniques don't show up anything. It's only next season they have committed to doing blood testing on champions league and europa league games. Better late than never!

    That said we can't just assume that every footballer is on something using the LA defense.


  • #125
    kfod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭kfod


    laraghrider wrote: »

    That said we can't just assume that every footballer is on something using the LA defense.

    I didn't mean to imply that, rather that the statement "We have never been tested positive" is probably meaningless as they have basically, never been tested by reliable means!


  • #126
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,525 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    OK no more Froome or Sky talk unless Kimmage mentions either in his diary. Any further suggestions of doping by specific riders/teams within this forum can expect appropriate sanctions (and to be clear if I had not been largely AFK for the past few days some "contributions" to this thread would already have been sanctioned

    Also no more general doping talk in this thread (again unless it comes up in the diary, but again subject to forum rules on doping speculation)


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  • #127
    Junior
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,266 ✭✭✭Junior


    laraghrider wrote: »
    Oh ok. Are you saying that Didier Drogba was doped while playing for Chelsea? He asked for a precedent, I gave him one. I'm well aware of the "issues" football has in this area but far as I'm aware Drogba nor Chelsea have ever been sanctioned with drugs.

    No I'm saying that there could have been a better example picked, it's like saying hey look Nico Roche has come on leaps and bounds at Saxo Bank, the team has some ethical questions that can be raised about it which will be offset against the progress of the Rider or Soccer player in this case.


  • #128
    Bluefoam
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    Junior wrote: »
    No I'm saying that there could have been a better example picked, it's like saying hey look Nico Roche has come on leaps and bounds at Saxo Bank, the team has some ethical questions that can be raised about it which will be offset against the progress of the Rider or Soccer player in this case.

    Eh, Junior...

    Day 15 is up http://www.independent.ie/videos/sport/day-15-of-paul-kimmages-tour-de-france-diary-29408768.html

    I have to say, I'm really enjoying the tour this year. Mostly due to Dan's performance, but it helps to get Nico's diary and Kimmage's pieces...


  • #129
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,525 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Beasty wrote: »
    I had not been largely AFK for the past few days some "contributions" to this thread would already have been sanctioned

    Can you let us know when you're next planning a trip so we can be extra careful to self-moderate?

    :pac:


  • #130
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    what happened to his video ? I haven't seen a new video in quite a while.


  • #131
    nerraw1111
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭nerraw1111


    He tweeted this morning re yesterday's stage.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/PaulKimmage


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  • #132
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    nerraw1111 wrote: »
    He tweeted this morning re yesterday's stage.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/PaulKimmage

    he must have given up on making the videos.


  • #133
    dastardly00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,716 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    This is the newest one I've found. He climbs Alpe d'Huez

    http://www.independent.ie/videos/sport/day-16-of-paul-kimmages-tour-de-france-diary-29420566.html


  • #134
    aindriu80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭aindriu80


    dastardly00 wrote: »
    This is the newest one I've found. He climbs Alpe d'Huez

    http://www.independent.ie/videos/sport/day-16-of-paul-kimmages-tour-de-france-diary-29420566.html

    Cool. I wouldn't mind trying it myself.


  • #135
    Bluefoam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,732 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    Kimmages latest diary:
    http://www.independent.ie/videos/sport/day-17-of-paul-kimmages-tour-de-france-diary-29423814.html

    Fires a warning shot over Sky's head...


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