Bouncers

Foxhound38 · 13-07-2013 11:54AM #1

Decided to head out last night - arranged to meet up with a couple of my friends in a well known Dublin establishment. Spent over 20 euro on a taxi in, spent about an hour getting ready, spent about 10 minutes queing...

"Sorry mate, you've had too much to drink tonight"

I don't drink full stop. And this was after the pisshead in front of me was nodded through after some begging.

I politely explained that I don't drink, had friends waiting on me in there, am 26, had spent a lot of money getting out there and a pretty safe bet not to be causing trouble. Nope - "not tonight friend". So I said "fair enough" and left, what else could I have done?

I'm still annoyed about it this morning - whole night wrecked, huge amount of money (in terms of what I earn) down the river, all because some idiot at the door was on a power trip...

I realize not all security personell are like this, but why in the world do some bouncers make calls like that?

EuskalHerria · 13-07-2013 11:57AM

They have no room for sober cheapskates.

Foxhound38 · 13-07-2013 11:58AM

EuskalHerria wrote: »

They have no room for sober cheapskates.

In fairness, a pint of coke costs more than a pint of guiness these days!

garv123 · 13-07-2013 12:00PM

You must be female since you took an hour getting ready?

hidinginthebush · 13-07-2013 12:01PM

Foxhound38 wrote: »

In fairness, a pint of coke costs more than a pint of guiness these days!

The old naggin in the sock eh?

minidazzler · 13-07-2013 12:02PM

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Decided to head out last night - arranged to meet up with a couple of my friends in a well known Dublin establishment. Spent over 20 euro on a taxi in, spent about an hour getting ready, spent about 10 minutes queing...

"Sorry mate, you've had too much to drink tonight"

I don't drink full stop. And this was after the pisshead in front of me was nodded through after some begging.

While I hate people who sue bars, what he did is very illegal. You can't accuse someone of being drunk unless you are 100% SURE they are drunk and even then you think of another reason not to serve them. It's defamation or some sh1t.

BNMC · 13-07-2013 12:06PM

ROAR.

/thread

bumper234 · 13-07-2013 12:06PM

Hate to see this, i worked as a doorman for many years and it really used to piss me off when people i worked with acted like this. Ok i understand you had a bad day in work or your Mrs is in your ear but don't bring it to work with you and yes no matter what anyone says there is a (thankfully) small % of doormen who go on power trips. I find it's mostly the younger lads that are like this (inexperience) and the older ones are more lenient.

bumper234 · 13-07-2013 12:08PM

BNMC wrote: »

ROAR.

/thread

ROAR is not a be all and end all excuse.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 13-07-2013 12:08PM

Haha, I remember going to the harriers back in the day (underage disco) with my friends and one of their younger sisters. The younger sister had big protruding but sleepy looking eyes. She was 14. The hassle we had trying to get her in. The bouncer accused her of being drunk, and sent her off over to the side of the building to sober up a bit. Her mother ended up coming in to bring her home, and had a go at the bouncer "my daughters not drunk this is how she looks all the time", and he was saying oh go on in, go in and enjoy your night.

Have to say the only bouncers that were assholes to me were the bouncers in the harriers, never in a nightclub.

Ave Sodalis · 13-07-2013 12:10PM

Yup, experienced power tripping bouncers before. Luckily, as a nondrinker, I haven't got stopped yet for being too drunk. I have been sent on a wild goose chase for as many forms of ID as possible before getting refused anyway on the grounds that I don't look like me in any form ID I had managed to get my housemate to drive in with. :rolleyes:

bumper234 · 13-07-2013 12:13PM

I once got stopped going into a bar where i worked, Took the night off and had to drop in to collect wages. The guy who was covering me was a snotty little **** and stopped me saying i had had "enough" already.

AK333 · 13-07-2013 12:22PM

I would contact the company, tell them to look at their CCTV, see that you were sober - I'm assuming dressed appropriately, etc, and maybe get a free night another time - might be worth a shot. I wouldn't recommend suing, all public premises reserve the right of admittance, they could have a raft of reasons to exclude anyone.

Crann na Beatha · 13-07-2013 12:24PM

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Foxhound38 · 13-07-2013 12:31PM

AK333 wrote: »

I would contact the company, tell them to look at their CCTV, see that you were sober - I'm assuming dressed appropriately, etc, and maybe get a free night another time - might be worth a shot. I wouldn't recommend suing, all public premises reserve the right of admittance, they could have a raft of reasons to exclude anyone.

Ah jaysus, I'm not going down the legal or any other route with it. I'm annoyed at a night wasted and down quite a bit of money but it happens and it's their call at the end of the day - ROAR and all that.

I wouldn't be in a hurry to go back or recommend the place is all. Was stone cold sober, able to engage in polite conversation, dressed appropriately etc - just fail to see what the problem was in the doormans head tbh.

You would think in these tight economic times, establishments would be hesitant to waste potential patrons money and goodwill for literally no reason...

castletownman · 13-07-2013 12:32PM

You should have gone for a burger.

Cus apparently that's the magic cure, based on my experience of hearing bouncers telling lads to go for one when they were clearly too drunk.

homeless student · 13-07-2013 12:33PM

Foxhound38 wrote: »

Decided to head out last night - arranged to meet up with a couple of my friends in a well known Dublin establishment. Spent over 20 euro on a taxi in, spent about an hour getting ready, spent about 10 minutes queing...

"Sorry mate, you've had too much to drink tonight"

I don't drink full stop. And this was after the pisshead in front of me was nodded through after some begging.

I politely explained that I don't drink, had friends waiting on me in there, am 26, had spent a lot of money getting out there and a pretty safe bet not to be causing trouble. Nope - "not tonight friend". So I said "fair enough" and left, what else could I have done?

I'm still annoyed about it this morning - whole night wrecked, huge amount of money (in terms of what I earn) down the river, all because some idiot at the door was on a power trip...

I realize not all security personell are like this, but why in the world do some bouncers make calls like that?

you should of just went to a nearby club and enjoyed the night, even without your mates.

knotknowbody · 13-07-2013 12:38PM

In our group if a situation like that arose, the person refused entry would ring the guys inside and explain the situation, the guys inside come out to the door chat to their friend for a minute or two and then decide to leave and go somewhere else, when the doorman has had a few minutes to observe the person refused and then sees a group leaving he often changes his mind, unless you really are drunk, in which case we would send you home and get on with our night.

Son Of A Vidic · 13-07-2013 12:40PM

Foxhound38 wrote: »

all because some idiot at the door was on a power trip...

Or maybe even a steroid trip.

irritablebaz · 13-07-2013 12:41PM

stories like this are why i dont frequent places that employ bouncers. back in the day it took me quite a while to realise you cant reason with them.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 13-07-2013 12:47PM

castletownman wrote: »

You should have gone for a burger.

Cus apparently that's the magic cure, based on my experience of hearing bouncers telling lads to go for one when they were clearly too drunk.

I was told once to go and ask for a cup of coffee in the pub and come back in half an hour.

castletownman · 13-07-2013 12:49PM

knotknowbody wrote: »

In our group if a situation like that arose, the person refused entry would ring the guys inside and explain the situation, the guys inside come out to the door chat to their friend for a minute or two and then decide to leave and go somewhere else, when the doorman has had a few minutes to observe the person refused and then sees a group leaving he often changes his mind, unless you really are drunk, in which case we would send you home and get on with our night.

That reminds me of an incident at the tail end of last year. A bunch of us were on a stag in Cork City. On the Saturday evening, we were in a popular, modern "gastro-bar" having a bite to eat and a couple of drinks. Two of the lads went outside to have a smoke. One of them starting coughing and heaving up the tiniest, most miniscule bit of vomit your ever likely to see. Now, he had arrived that morning, and hadn't even started drinking yet, but had a bit of a head-cold. An off-duty bouncer happened to be having a fag at the same time, and went in and told the manager. The lad was swiftly told to leave the premises by the manager. Rest of the lads left their drink and whatever else behind and followed him in solidarity. The bar lost a considerable evening trade as a result.

Could never figure out why I never liked drinking in pretentious bars up to that point.

Dyr · 13-07-2013 12:58PM

By not letting you in they actually saved you quite a bit of money.

Also: an hour getting ready? GTFO

becost · 13-07-2013 01:04PM

Get one of your friends to let you in the emergency exit. Did that for years. Used always say goodnight to them when leaving and the thick cnuts never even realized.

garv123 · 13-07-2013 01:05PM

The norm these days is to post a complaint about it on their facebook page and hope to get as many likes as possible..

If you're ginger or in a wheelchair it may help you get a few more pity likes.

Arpa · 13-07-2013 01:18PM

I find them much more accommodating in recent times. If you frequent the same club you get to know the bouncers and usually a nod and a "Howiyah lads" will be grand for them to sweep you in.

Depends on where you are but match their accent, their tone, find something to ingratiate yourself to them. Don't be a di*k just look like you've come from a few pints in an audl Dublin pub. They seem to find that grand. If you rock up with a big accent on ye and looking all cocky there's no chance. Blend in, be part of the background. If you think about it...you don't want to stand out. You want to be just another bloke going into the club.

I also find that walking up on my own helps. Even if you are a bit piS*ed, just walk up on your own and in particular when they are dealing with a group of drunk lads. Don't say anything, just nod and give the raised eyebrows as if to say.."Pfft, I know what you're dealing with" and voila.

There have been times of course when it doesn't work...and you'll always get the odd a*swipe but for the most part it works for me.

Bipolar Joe · 13-07-2013 01:19PM

A while back I was going to a class concert (It was for an event planning and management module). I have a big beard, and I'm clearly not under eighteen. Got to the venue, and the bouncer put his hand on my chest and just said "I.D." I just said "Are you serious? Look at me, man." He put his hand down and I walked past. First and last time there, but it was a bit absurd.

FatherLen · 13-07-2013 01:20PM

how to be a bouncer:

be a dick.
stand near a door.

mad turnip · 13-07-2013 01:28PM

Should have tried again 5 minutes later, was refused only once and they didn't mind letting me in 5 minutes later!

Timmyctc · 13-07-2013 01:35PM

Bouncers in a popular venue in Galway do this thing I've noticed (its happened to me on two or three occasions anyway) where the club is free before 12 and 2,3 or 4 euro after usually. But coming on 11.50-11.55 they've sent me back to the end of the queue after I've reached the front saying "Queue up again and you'll have sobered up a bit there". Sent about 5 lads in front of me and a couple behind me back at the same time the first time. I can only assume its to make the place a few extra on covers.

Jester252 · 13-07-2013 02:17PM

Was going out with a group of friends in Limerick and we had some drinks at the house but not enough to be drunk. We're about to go in and the bouncer caught me and pulled me out of the group saying I was drunk. My friends go in and I'm left outside. They only find out that I was stopped after they had paied and I told them to stay and I'll see them at home.
I was walking away angry with the bouncer for stopping me and grabing me while I was still on the footpath. Then I find the supply door for the club wide open so in I go. Trying to find the way to the club another bouncer caught me and I just told him I got lost trying to find the bathrooms so he helped me into the club.

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