Why does the EU allow the Running of the Bulls?

Hitchens · 12-07-2013 03:28PM #1

This happened during this morning's run!

Hare coursing greyhounds must have muzzles in Ireland, but in Spain bulls don't have horns cut.............why?

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 12-07-2013 03:29PM

We should do that here, but use selected politicans and ex bankers to run in front of the bulls!

SEPT 23 1989 · 12-07-2013 03:31PM

I would like to release a bull on the boardwalk

**Vai** · 12-07-2013 03:33PM

Hitchens wrote: »

Hare coursing greyhounds must have muzzles in Ireland, but in Spain bulls don't have horns cut.............why?

Hares don't have a choice in the matter, we do.

wretcheddomain · 12-07-2013 03:34PM

We do have a running of the bulls, it happens everyday when the TD's leave the Dáil after already inflicting some damage to innocent civilians.

Hitchens · 12-07-2013 03:36PM

**Vai** wrote: »

Hares don't have a choice in the matter, we do.

that's a fair point

MickFleetwood · 12-07-2013 03:39PM

They're adults making a conscious decision, well aware of the possible dangers of participating. It's a part of their culture, they should be allowed to do it.

mikom · 12-07-2013 03:40PM

MickFleetwood wrote: »

They're adults making a conscious decision, well aware of the possible dangers of participating. It's a part of their culture, they should be allowed to do it.

Turf.

Mr Freeze · 12-07-2013 03:43PM

Old and grey wrote: »

We should do that here, but use selected politicans and ex bankers to run in front of the bulls!

In a high walled cul de sac.

Hitchens · 12-07-2013 03:43PM

MickFleetwood wrote: »

They're adults making a conscious decision, well aware of the possible dangers of participating. It's a part of their culture, they should be allowed to do it.

Just wondering about the health and safety aspect, cruelty to the animals, how does the insurance liability work, etc?

For Forks Sake · 12-07-2013 03:44PM

wretcheddomain wrote: »

We do have a running of the bulls, it happens everyday when the TD's leave the Dáil after already inflicting some damage to innocent civilians.

Ugh. Every thread. Get some new material.

**Vai** · 12-07-2013 03:45PM

MickFleetwood wrote: »

They're adults making a conscious decision, well aware of the possible dangers of participating. It's a part of their culture, they should be allowed to do it.

Exactly. The Spanish have a knack for "crazy" cultural traditions. People get hurt running with the bulls and my favourite, the human pyramid, which also hurts many people each year.

http://youtu.be/BS674X9phH8

FatherLen · 12-07-2013 03:48PM

leaving out the animal cruelty aspect, if they were to ban that then they would have to ban the other things that are far more dangerous.
the isle of man tt is first to come to mind.

And nobody wants to see the tt banned.

Hitchens · 12-07-2013 03:54PM

FatherLen wrote: »

leaving out the animal cruelty aspect, if they were to ban that then they would have to ban the other things that are far more dangerous.
the isle of man tt is first to come to mind.

And nobody wants to see the tt banned.

but the TT riders are experts on their bikes.............any (drunk) idiot can run with the bulls

FatherLen · 12-07-2013 03:55PM

Hitchens wrote: »

but the TT riders are experts on their bikes.............any (drunk) idiot can run with the bulls

I am talking more about the aspect of danger in both events.

Experts or not, the TT is still the most dangerous racing event on the planet.

Conmaicne Mara · 12-07-2013 03:55PM

They shouldn't ban it, if I hadn't fúcked up my knee I'd have liked to do it. The Spanish, not telling them their business, should also tell the EU to fúck off if they do attempt to ban it. The EU is often subverted by interest groups.

Ush1 · 12-07-2013 03:58PM

Should ban bull fighting.

BillJ · 12-07-2013 04:05PM

Anyone that gets gored deserves it, it's a f**king barbaric event. Tradition or no tradition I think it should be banned, for the bulls welfare not humans.

juice1304 · 12-07-2013 04:09PM

Serves him right. Play with fire and your gonna get burned.
Animal cruelty for entertainment is simply wrong. And the fools saying it's their culture etc.. Well in some parts of the world it is their "culture" to punish women who are raped etc..., dose it negate the fact it is wrong because it is their culture? No it doesn't wrong is wrong.

floggg · 12-07-2013 04:09PM

The bull was a bit of a perv, no? Taking off the poor chaps trousers like that!

**Vai** · 12-07-2013 04:16PM

Ush1 wrote: »

Should ban bull fighting.

Different thing entirely to be fair.

BillJ wrote: »

Anyone that gets gored deserves it, it's a f**king barbaric event. Tradition or no tradition I think it should be banned, for the bulls welfare not humans.

The bulls run through a street...I dont get the outraged animal cruelty aspect here. Also, the hope that people will get gored in the same post is a little out of whack if you really are outraged about cruelty.

juice1304 wrote: »

And the fools saying it's their culture etc.. Well in some parts of the world it is their "culture" to punish women who are raped etc..., dose it negate the fact it is wrong because it is their culture? No it doesn't wrong is wrong.

Buh?

BillJ · 12-07-2013 04:19PM

**Vai** wrote: »

The bulls run through a street...I dont get the outraged animal cruelty aspect here. Also, the hope that people will get gored in the same post is a little out of whack if you really are outraged.

Incase you didn't know these bulls run through the streets and straight into the arena where a bull fighting tournament takes places, they are all then brutally killed for the enjoyment of thousands of people watching and cheering.

Don't think it's out of whack at all to be honest, i think anyone supporting such a 'sport' deserves it.

Never said I hoped it would happen, just that I don't feel sorry for them.

Seaneh · 12-07-2013 04:21PM

Hitchens wrote: »

but the TT riders are experts on their bikes.............any (drunk) idiot can run with the bulls

You've obviously never been to san fermin. There are thousands of police in the city clearing the course every morning and making sure nobody who is intoxicated, too young, too small or with video cameras us on the course.

1ZRed · 12-07-2013 04:21PM

Don't care if they get hurt, they're only people and they choose to do it, it'd say differently if there were animals thrown in front of the bull just for "sport" because that's completely cruel.

People who choose to do it though? Couldn't give a f*ck about them.

**Vai** · 12-07-2013 04:24PM

BillJ wrote: »

Incase you didn't know these bulls run through the streets and straight into the arena where a bull fighting tournament takes places, they are all then brutally killed for the enjoyment of thousands of people watching and cheering.

Don't think it's out of whack at all to be honest, i think anyone supporting such a 'sport' deserves it.

I did not know that part. Always thought it was a nice run out for them! Ah well, consider that they will be murdered anyway, as livestock.

Ush1 · 12-07-2013 04:26PM

**Vai** wrote: »

I did not know that part. Always thought it was a nice run out for them! Ah well, consider that they will be murdered anyway, as livestock.

Killing something humanely to eat is not the same as torturing it to death for amusement.

johnayo · 12-07-2013 04:27PM

This is bullsh1t.:p

twinytwo · 12-07-2013 04:28PM

Hitchens wrote: »

This happened during this morning's run!

Hare coursing greyhounds must have muzzles in Ireland, but in Spain bulls don't have horns cut.............why?

we have a choice to go out in front of a bull, a hare has little choice against getting put in front of the greyhounds....

**Vai** · 12-07-2013 04:28PM

Ush1 wrote: »

Killing something humanely to eat is not the same as torturing it to death for amusement.

I didn't say it was the same, just that it will happen.

1ZRed · 12-07-2013 04:28PM

**Vai** wrote: »

I did not know that part. Always thought it was a nice run out for them! Ah well, consider that they will be murdered anyway, as livestock.

There are animal protection laws in place to kill livestock as painlessly and humanly as possible. I'd hardly think driving dozens of swords through the bull until it eventually dies in complete agony is comparable to them being "murdered anyway as livestock" because the way they die couldn't be more different.

Ush1 · 12-07-2013 04:29PM

**Vai** wrote: »

I didn't say it was the same, just that it will happen.

What will happen? It will die? You're gonna die at some stage as well, should we torture you?

Why does the EU allow the Running of the Bulls?

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