has anyone ever had any dealings with scientologists in Ireland?

shane9689 wrote: »

that comment wasnt meant for you but for caustic, or whatever his name is

i know, i made my point and so did you, end of

Fussgangerzone wrote: »

I haven't had any dealing with scientologists, but it should, in my opinion, be handled like most religious topics in the office; ignored.

If they want to delude themselves and throw money away good luck to them. Shift the conversation to films, even if Tom Cruise does get mentioned a lot.

If you feel that you're being discriminated against, that's a different story.

As for people who think scientology is like every other "religion", no two religions are the same. Scientology is rightly notorious for evangelism and moneygrubbing, so it's perfectly reasonable to consider it differently to other religions with regard to the workplace.

To all intents and purposes, scientology is a sci-fi flavoured pyramid scheme, as opposed to traditional religions which are more like the mafia.

gw80 wrote: »

You seem to think that scientologists deserve to be defended like minority groups and should be respected and tiptoed around when they should really be ridiculed and shown up for what they really are.

Thats why i say F*&K EM

gw80 wrote: »

staunch atheist, I would have said the same about all religions but didnt want to get into a big spiel about that, I would,nt consider myself militant atheist but i think we have enough problems with religion in this country without turning a blind eye to another controlling cult thrown into the mix,

shane9689 wrote: »

i was thinking of starting an anti-religion..where we all get together in a cow shed and talk of crushing the infidel believers...ill gather collections to give to the needy for the craic whilst skimming 33% off the top and then we will go protest a funeral. Ofcourse ill need a volunteer to bully the politicians into submission and anyone caught molesting people shall be quietly hidden at the back of the cow shed...they can milk the cows while theyre at it since they enjoy touching things so much

joeguevara wrote: »

When I was waiting for the bus to Leixlip, just off O'Connell Street, I was asked to do a free personality test. Found out after that they were probably Scientologists. Not that pushy. Might have been a different story if I had gone inside. As a student, on holidays in Germany, a group of us were offered free meal if we did a personality test. No word about it being for scientologists. Once in and fed we did the personality tests. They told me I was borderline sociopath ( I kind of fudged a good lot of the answers) and told me how I could improve myself. Made a quick escape after that. In fact, they said, they had never met a group with so many personality disorders. Great food though.

becost wrote: »

Many years ago, I was walking along O'Connell street and a nice young gent offered me a free personality test. Curiosity got the better of me and I went with him to a fairly grotty place over a shop on abbey street. I was given a form with a load of questions where you had the option to strongly agree, agree, disagree, strongly disagree. The questions started out innocent enough but then they began getting stranger. Questions like "Could you agree to strict discipline?" or "Would you prefer to be in a position where you did not have the responsibilities of making decisions?" or "Do you resent the efforts of others to tell you what to do?"

I thought the questions seemed to be designed to specifically identify a certain type of (easily led) individual and not at all a general personality test. And strangely, both staff members were not around although they were probably spying on me from some secret room or something but I got a sinister feeling about the whole thing and just got up and left. It wasn't for several years after that I found out this "free personality test" is run by the Scientologists.

Zen65 wrote: »

I think the point you are making is correct, but could be open to misinterpretation, which is exactly what religion thrives on.

You're using two different meanings to the verb 'believe' here, which is quite subtle. You can believe in the Irish government, because the existence of the government is supported by a substantial amount of irrefutable evidence. You may well choose not to have faith in the government, because the competence of the government is supported only by subjective evidence.

Belief in organised religion is equally valid, because there is evidence to support the fact that organised religions exist. Having faith in their teachings, which are about the need and virtue of having faith, is less understandable, since there is almost no evidence to support these articles of faith, and plenty of transparent failings in the religious teachings which would undermine them.

Perhaps a more illustrative comparison would be that religious belief (faith) is akin to believing that Elvis is still alive, on another planet, having been relocated by Xenu.

Scientology: the fusion of science and codology!

Z

calfmuscle wrote: »

I don't think they have tried to recruit me, not yet anyways, but they are very secretive and money oriented!

R P McMurphy wrote: »

Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?

Do you feel sometimes that age is against you?

I can help