[DFB] Temporary Emergency Services Controller

Mycroft H · 04-07-2013 01:38PM #1

Panel went live there this morning. Already in contact with HR and they expect the number applying to be huge as there is a chance to apply to a
Firefighter/Paramedic position after three years as a controller.

Looking at the information booklet, it seems I need to have "normal" vision without glasses. Anyone know how I would fare with 6/28ish vision? HR can't tell me anything about the specific value other than it will be judged at a medical (ie they're not arsed finding out). Seems a lot of hassle to only go through all the application process, interview etc only to be shot down at the medical.

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DUBLINHITMAN · 04-07-2013 01:59PM

They might turn a blind eye lol
best of luck mate

flazio · 04-07-2013 09:10PM

"Normal vision without glasses or lenses"
That one buggers belief, I've never seen that condition on any Controller position before. Even Air Traffic Controllers at Heathrow Airport can wear glasses at work.

donkey balls · 04-07-2013 10:28PM

flazio wrote: »

"Normal vision without glasses or lenses"
That one buggers belief, I've never seen that condition on any Controller position before. Even Air Traffic Controllers at Heathrow Airport can wear glasses at work.

I was looking at the eye sight requirements my self and I'm also a bit confused about the vision requirements as they state normal vision without glasses/lenses,What do they class as normal vision? I have had a class 1 medical done before(Airline Pilot) were I failed the eye sight requirement but passed some months later after I started wearing glasses.
Yet I can pass a medical for just say your driving licence without having to wear the glasses also I'm going be hitting the 40yr mark soon would that rule me out?

Fire1985 · 04-07-2013 11:45PM

You'll be grand for controller job with normal eyesight. If and when you get to become a firefighter you need 20/20 definitely.

niamh_k13 · 05-07-2013 11:47PM

I have applied for this job but I don't have a full driving license, do I stand a chance?
cant do my test until October because you need to have learner permit for 6 months.

Fire1985 · 06-07-2013 01:04AM

I know a guy who was in the same situation for paramedic a while back. He couldn't proceed .
When you go for your aptitude you need to bring a printout of your licence!

Best of luck

niamh_k13 · 06-07-2013 06:43PM

I get why it would be a problem for a paramedic, but for working in the control room I don't see why it would be an issue.
just hate to think it would be the one thing that stops me from getting the job when I'm so close to being able to sit my test.

06-07-2013 09:35PM

It states quite clearly in the application that full B licence is required to apply, you'll be turned away if you turn up to the PAS assessments without it.

noelr89 · 07-07-2013 10:45AM

Anyone tell me what the process is.

apply on line

interview

medical ??

thanks

aido112 · 07-07-2013 11:50AM

Hi Lads,

Do ye know if ya get paid for training. Really interested in the position but couldnt afford to leave my current job and not be paid for 14 weeks!!!!

GoProGaming · 07-07-2013 07:05PM

i would imagine you will be paid. will try and confirm that tonight.

i would glady run out of my current job and do the first year for free if i made the panel.

Celticfire · 07-07-2013 09:30PM

You will be paid, just no shift allowances until you finish training.

Arruabarrena · 07-07-2013 10:59PM

You will need to have your full driving licence when you take up employment. A learner permit should be fine until then.

Arruabarrena · 07-07-2013 11:01PM

BX 19 wrote: »

HR can't tell me anything about the specific value other than it will be judged at a medical (ie they're not arsed finding out).

Office staff are qualified eye specialists I suppose? Get a grip.

Mycroft H · 07-07-2013 11:49PM

Arruabarrena wrote: »

Office staff are qualified eye specialists I suppose? Get a grip.

The HR person specifically dealing with the DFB recruitment should have an idea especially when the specifications are as vague as they are.

If they specify "normal" then they should prepared to answer questions as to what defines normal, especially when the previous FF recruitment jobs did. Giving a eyesight visual acuity rating is standard fare for AGS and the Defence Forces so I can't see why they cant here.

Get a grip and think before you type.

Arruabarrena · 08-07-2013 12:15AM

I agree that's its not ideal but for someone to say that HR couldn't be arsed to find out is quite simply not true.

Mycroft H · 08-07-2013 12:24AM

Arruabarrena wrote: »

I agree that's its not ideal but for someone to say that HR couldn't be arsed to find out is quite simply not true.

Neither of us can confirm/deny that. Erring on the not arsed side of things to be honest from the answer I got on the telephone.

Arruabarrena · 08-07-2013 12:30AM

I wouldn't say anything will happen until September now anyway as the PAS usually take a collective holiday in August.

Online test -> Aptitude Test -> Interview

ooter · 08-07-2013 02:36PM

5500 wrote: »

It states quite clearly in the application that full B licence is required to apply, you'll be turned away if you turn up to the PAS assessments without it.

i turned up at the aptitude test for DFB a few weeks ago without a full licence (cos i only have a learner permit) and i wasn't turned away.i've an interview next week and i haven't been asked to bring my full licence.
if i'm successful i've no doubt i'll have to have it to start training but for now it doesn't seem to be an issue..

donkey balls · 08-07-2013 07:30PM

I'm thinking of applying for the job even though it would mean me taking over 50% wage cut initially, I hold a full Irish licence (artic) and I'm a EMT the only thing holding me back is my age as I'm officially an aul fella this year when I turn 40.
I know they haven't put an age limit on it but anyone know if it's worth my while applying.

thatboy · 08-07-2013 07:34PM

It really comes down to what happens after 3 years doesn't it, MAY progress to firefighter role doesn't instill mega confidence in the whole thing, especially given decisions such as cancelling the last DFB panel in 2012. You'd really need to know a definitive answer on the career progression.

Mycroft H · 08-07-2013 07:38PM

donkey balls wrote: »

I'm thinking of applying for the job even though it would mean me taking over 50% wage cut initially, I hold a full Irish licence (artic) and I'm a EMT the only thing holding me back is my age as I'm officially an aul fella this year when I turn 40.
I know they haven't put an age limit on it but anyone know if it's worth my while applying.

I'm in a similar circumstance and I'm giving it a shot. Going to chance it with my eyesight. Hopefully it wont bar me from the controller position.

Arruabarrena · 08-07-2013 07:52PM

If you pass the physicals and are capable as a controller then you'll progress as a firefighter.

ooter · 08-07-2013 07:58PM

donkey balls wrote: »

I'm thinking of applying for the job even though it would mean me taking over 50% wage cut initially, I hold a full Irish licence (artic) and I'm a EMT the only thing holding me back is my age as I'm officially an aul fella this year when I turn 40.
I know they haven't put an age limit on it but anyone know if it's worth my while applying.

i'm 40 and i've an interview next week for dfb,i'm fitter than lads half my age so i've no qualms about the age thing..

donkey balls · 08-07-2013 09:42PM

Anyone know how the shifts work within the DFB I know the shifts are 1800-0900 and 0900-1800 how many days are they done over?
Could it be that you do the 9 hour shift followed by the two 15 hour ones on a rolling roster.

OLS84 · 09-07-2013 08:02PM

Hey folks,

Any ideas when the aptitude test will be taking place? I only ask as I am going away on holidays the first two weeks in September, can't help but feel that they maybe have the tests around this time.

Arruabarrena · 09-07-2013 10:50PM

Online test first. More than likely September. Depends when PAS are ready.

thatboy · 09-07-2013 10:58PM

What would the online test consist of? Similiar to tests before or typing?

donkey balls · 09-07-2013 11:01PM

Arruabarrena wrote: »

Online test first. More than likely September. Depends when PAS are ready.

I've never done any sort of online test/assessment for a job what do they normally comprise off? and if done online what is not to stop a candidate from getting someone else to do the test.
The only tests I have ever done was the normal aptitude and psychometric tests were by the HR people would supervise the exam.

Arruabarrena · 10-07-2013 01:17AM

That's the info I have to hand. Know nothing further at present.

[DFB] Temporary Emergency Services Controller

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