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Ok grand, now you're a Saint

  • 05-07-2013 02:08PM
    #1
    Arpa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭


    Woman from Costa Rica who believes in a fairytale story has been saved by a dead man who was the representative of the main character of the fairytale story who is also now dead.

    Aaaaand....that's grand.


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  • #2
    Christ the Redeemer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭Christ the Redeemer


    wat


  • #3
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Arpa wrote: »
    Woman from Costa Rica who believes in a fairytale story has been saved by a dead man who was the representative of the main character of the fairytale story who is also now dead.

    Aaaaand....that's grand.
    Help us out wi an aul link there would ya? Cheers.


  • #4
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Religion Forums====>


  • #5
    az2wp0sye65487
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭az2wp0sye65487


    Arpa wrote: »
    Woman from Costa Rica who believes in a fairytale story has been saved by a dead man who was the representative of the main character of the fairytale story who is also now dead.

    Aaaaand....that's grand.
    Christ the Redeemer wrote: »
    wat

    You've angered him now.... :pac:


  • #6
    Boom_Bap
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    So it sounds like the woman from Costa Rica wants a kick in the face?


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  • #7
    stefan idiot jones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭stefan idiot jones


    Voodoo forums >>>>>>>>>>>>


  • #8
    tmc86
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    Saved from what?

    story needs more context! Its Friday afternoon, I'm too tired to decipher your cryptic code!


  • #9
    krudler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Sigh, doing the dirty work here: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/vatican-confirms-john-paul-ii-will-be-made-a-saint-1.1454012
    The second miracle attributed to John Paul’s intercession is the inexplicable curing of a woman from Costa Rica who prayed to him for help with her medical condition on the day of his beatification. Details of that miracle were due to be announced in Costa Rica today.

    In the case of Pope John XXIII, who was known as the “good pope”, Francis waved the customary rules which require a second miracle after beatification, Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said. John XXIII was beatified in 2000.


  • #10
    Manach
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 9,904 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    What would be a miracle is a day or two without the usual anti-Catholic thread.


  • #11
    Christ the Redeemer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭Christ the Redeemer


    Miracles are expensive. People don't realise this. We have recessions in heaven too. And right now we're over budget because of all the south Americans that were playing football in the last weeks.


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  • #12
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I believe in miracles.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-p8bOoFlPo


  • #13
    bnt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,244 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    If stuff like that didn't keep happening, these threads wouldn't keep happening. I suppose that if you're "inside" the Catholic worldview, you don't realise how silly it all looks to those on the "outside". Example:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ9sJVJMiYM

    Government resting upon the will and universal suffrage of the people has no anchorage except in the people's intelligence.

    — Grover Cleveland



  • #14
    RossFixxxed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    I believe in miracles.

    Where ya from?


  • #15
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    RossFixxxed wrote: »
    Where ya from?
    You sexy thing.


  • #16
    Rented Mule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Manach wrote: »
    What would be a miracle is a day or two without the usual anti-Catholic thread.


    Is it 'anti-Catholic' to bring up the fact that he was in charge of an organization that covered up child rape/molestation cases and protected the perpetrators ?


  • #17
    Jonny7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    magic priests and invisible wizards

    Catholic church still in the land of narnia I see


  • #18
    Arpa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Arpa


    Purposely didn't give you a link because essentially that's what the story is.

    So now we will have Saint John Paul 2nd...just because...well he supposedly saved some woman, from Costa Rica, who prayed to him on the day of his beatification.

    It's hitting the news today and will undoubtedly have devout Catholics across the world singing with joy...but why? What? Sorry...Ehhhmmm no.

    Today in the news = Gardai set to clamp down on Phoenic Park concerts
    Garden furniture sales set to increase
    Anglo Tapes Saga
    New Madeleine McCann Investigation
    Changing the clocks
    Mandela is not in vegetative state

    All more newsworthy. And yet...we have a new chapter in a fairytale. Can we stop this please?

    Somebody in the USA was abducted by aliens today too.


  • #19
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Arpa wrote: »
    Purposely didn't give you a link because essentially that's what the story is.

    So now we will have Saint John Paul 2nd...just because...well he supposedly saved some woman, from Costa Rica, who prayed to him on the day of his beatification.

    It's hitting the news today and will undoubtedly have devout Catholics across the world singing with joy...but why? What? Sorry...Ehhhmmm no.

    Today in the news = Gardai set to clamp down on Phoenic Park concerts
    Garden furniture sales set to increase
    Anglo Tapes Saga
    New Madeleine McCann Investigation
    Changing the clocks
    Mandela is not in vegetative state

    All more newsworthy. And yet...we have a new chapter in a fairytale. Can we stop this please?

    Somebody in the USA was abducted by aliens today too.
    News is a consumable product like everything else, stories like that sell because enough people want to read them, nothing you or me can do about it.


  • #20
    Birroc
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    The Roman catholic church have gone from being Respectable to Criminal to Irrelevant and now to downright Creepy in a few decades.


  • #21
    Arpa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Arpa


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    News is a consumable product like everything else, stories like that sell because enough people want to read them, nothing you or me can do about it.

    Have to agree with you there...just unfortunate that the consumers are so ready to consume.

    I suppose I know the print and broadcast are going to run with this story but I guess I was just trying to illustrate what an outlandish story it is.

    Dead guy becomes a saint because some random nobody put her hands together and looked to the sky asking dead guy to be cool about her affliction. Dead guy, who is pretty friendly with fictional guy does her a favour and says, "Grand missus...I've talked to the fictional guy, he says all is cool...your troubles are over".

    People believe this stuff...people wage wars because of this stuff. People are willing to die because of this..and believe they are doing the right thing by doing so. What a fcuking hinderance to the progression of society.


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  • #22
    I Heart Internet
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    Arpa wrote: »
    So now we will have Saint John Paul 2nd...just because...well he supposedly saved some woman, from Costa Rica, who prayed to him on the day of his beatification.

    That's not the full story though Arpa.

    He's beign officially recognised as a saint by the RCC organisation because he (JPII) fulfills, in the view of the RCC, the necessary criteria (in terms of the life he led, writings, teachings, holiness) to be called a saint. The miracles (2 - one for beatification and one for canonisation) are important but not at all the full story.

    A more secular example of an organisation declaring someone of great character and worthy of acclaim is when the State of Isreal deems some one Righteous Among the Nations or when someone gets inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

    If you don't like it, don't buy it.

    If you want to start handing out your own honorific titles to people, alive or dead, knock yourself out.

    The RCC can name all the saints they want. What difference is it to anyone if they don't believe in saints?


  • #23
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That's nice OP.

    Perhaps the folks in Relgion & Spirituality might like to know. Please read their charters before posting.


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