Dissident turfcutters

joela · 02-07-2013 08:06PM

Turfcutters thank known religious extremist, anti-semitic & far right group for supporting environmental vandalism.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=480233868730428&id=195445003875984

M three · 02-07-2013 08:41PM

MadsL wrote: »

As much as you want to make a joke of it, I hardly think €9m a year completely unnecessary expense - coupled with the €750m it has cost so far in dealing with these 'heroes' is something to find funny. But then you consider that joke of a TD Ming to be someone to take seriously.

The Govt has just considered cutting resource teachers to special needs kids to save this kind of money.

Jesus Mads you're going to be busy protesting about all these fines and all these government cutbacks. Are you sure you'll be able for it?

I mean I'm worried you wont have enough replacement keyboards to keep you going. I hear the organic laptops aren't great yet either so maybe keep buying the chinese ones for now.

MadsL · 02-07-2013 10:58PM

M three wrote: »

Jesus Mads you're going to be busy protesting about all these fines and all these government cutbacks. Are you sure you'll be able for it?

I mean I'm worried you wont have enough replacement keyboards to keep you going. I hear the organic laptops aren't great yet either so maybe keep buying the chinese ones for now.

Don't worry, after fifteen years in Ireland I have grown used to the kind of attitude you display, a kind of a wishy-washy apathetic attitude to anyone actually breaking the law, but venomous 'what's it to ya' dislike for anyone daring to actually give a damn about any issue. Then follows the snide comments and jabs about how someone spends their time. You are nothing special to be honest, just another sheep that thinks that 'minding their own business' is the same as turning a blind eye to illegality.

Still don't let that faze you, feel free to reach for the old favourites like "take a chill pill" and "ah, relax wll ya, you have a heart attack".

mikom · 02-07-2013 11:19PM

MadsL wrote: »

Don't worry, after fifteen years in Ireland I have grown used to the kind of attitude you display,

Fifteen years!
I've older apple trees.

MadsL · 02-07-2013 11:21PM

mikom wrote: »

Fifteen years!
I've older apple trees.

Well, unless I have been posting on boards since the age of five you better rethink your assumptions about how old I am.

Anyway, pretty clear the pro side has run out of arguments since they are busy circling one opponent and throwing out the personal jibes.

I guess you have conceded that turfcutting on protected bog is unsustainable, illegal, unethical, and unpatriotic.

John_Rambo · 02-07-2013 11:28PM

It seems the more the turf cutters talk the more people vote against them on the poll. Anybody se their Facebook page? It's like a lesson on "how to alienate your organisation and annoy everyone".

mikom · 02-07-2013 11:30PM

MadsL wrote: »

Well, unless I have been posting on boards since the age of five you better rethink your assumptions about how old I am.

Anyway, pretty clear the pro side has run out of arguments since they are busy circling one opponent and throwing out the personal jibes.

I guess you have conceded that turfcutting on protected bog is unsustainable, illegal, unethical, and unpatriotic.

No assumption on your age.
Just a reply to your assertion that you lived "fifteen years in Ireland".

Unpatriotic, he says.......... from Las Vegas.

PRAF · 02-07-2013 11:31PM

Could anyone clearly and briefly set out the main arguments in favour of this illegal turf cutting? I'm genuinely interested in case I've missed something.

MadsL · 02-07-2013 11:34PM

mikom wrote: »

No assumption on your age.
Just a reply to your assertion that you lived "fifteen years in Ireland".

Unpatriotic, he says.......... from Las Vegas.

What has where I live got to do with if turfcutters act patriotically?

Unless you seem to be saying emigrants are traitors?

The real venom coming out now...

mikom · 02-07-2013 11:37PM

MadsL wrote: »

What has where I live got to do with if turfcutters act patriotically?

Unless you seem to be saying emigrants are traitors?

The real venom coming out now...

No venom, MadsL.
We'll work it out without ya.

MadsL · 02-07-2013 11:39PM

mikom wrote: »

No venom, MadsL.
We'll work it out without ya.

Oh, I see, emigrants not entitled to opinions. Gotcha.

mikom · 02-07-2013 11:42PM

MadsL wrote: »

Oh, I see, emigrants not entitled to opinions. Gotcha.

Ah, your entitled to your opinion alright.
Opinions won't warm your arse over the winter though............. unless of course you write an regular opinion piece for a big time newspaper, and your wages can go towards buying fuel.

end of the road · 02-07-2013 11:53PM

MadsL wrote: »

I guess you have conceded that turfcutting on protected bog is unsustainable, illegal, unethical, and unpatriotic.

no, i haven't, i don't believe its unethical or unpatriotic, illegal yes but it doesn't bother me, i've a lot more important things that do bother me then a few lads cutting turf on a bog protected or otherwise

B0jangles · 03-07-2013 12:01AM

end of the road wrote: »

no, i haven't, i don't believe its unethical or unpatriotic, illegal yes but it doesn't bother me, i've a lot more important things that do bother me then a few lads cutting turf on a bog protected or otherwise

Like what?

This is a landscape that will probably never exist again. It barely exists as it is. Do you really believe it is more important for a few people to continue to get free fuel than for a whole landscape to disappear forever?

OpenYourEyes · 03-07-2013 12:14AM

end of the road wrote: »

no, i haven't, i don't believe its unethical or unpatriotic, illegal yes but it doesn't bother me, i've a lot more important things that do bother me then a few lads cutting turf on a bog protected or otherwise

...and making crappy arguments in favour of illegal turfcutting is one of the "more important things" you have to be doing?

MadsL · 03-07-2013 12:14AM

mikom wrote: »

Ah, your entitled to your opinion alright.
Opinions won't warm your arse over the winter though............. unless of course you write an regular opinion piece for a big time newspaper, and your wages can go towards buying fuel.

Ah, I see. In your world view nothing has value unless you earn money or goods for yourself from it.

Enlightening.

MadsL · 03-07-2013 12:20AM

end of the road wrote: »

no, i haven't, i don't believe its unethical or unpatriotic, illegal yes but it doesn't bother me, i've a lot more important things that do bother me then a few lads cutting turf on a bog protected or otherwise

So, it is not unethical to be draining, digging up and burning a fragile ecosystem when it has been shown to be damaging, have a terrible carbon impact, and you have accepted payments to stop doing it, yet you continue.

As to being unpatriotic, letting the country pick of the tab for the above selfishness is hardly the action of a patriot.

B0jangles · 03-07-2013 12:21AM

Back in the '60s Dublin had one of the finest collection of Georgian buildings left in the world.

But then the "what does it matter?" crowd got into power and left us with this instead:

Beauty is rare and fragile.

Ugly is common, and it is forever.

Think about that the next time you're burning a 100.000 year old piece of peat to fry a sausage.

donfers · 03-07-2013 12:23AM

disappointed.....when I saw the title of the thread I thought I had finally found a hollywood blockbuster that I could watch but it's not that at all

just trying to think if there was a sequel to the non-existent movie, what kind of subtitle would it have

dissident turfcutters 2 - ???????

MadsL · 03-07-2013 12:25AM

donfers wrote: »

disappointed.....when I saw the title of the thread I thought I had finally found a hollywood blockbuster that I could watch but it's not that at all

just trying to think if there was a sequel to the non-existent movie, what kind of subtitle would it have

dissident turfcutters 2 - ???????

Dissident Turfcutters 2 - Grand Day For It!

mikom · 03-07-2013 12:31AM

MadsL wrote: »

Ah, I see. In your world view nothing has value unless you earn money or goods for yourself from it.

Enlightening.

Explain to me again why you emigrated.

MadsL · 03-07-2013 12:34AM

mikom wrote: »

Explain to me again why you emigrated.

Explain to me again why my personal circumstances have anything to do with the issue.

mikom · 03-07-2013 12:36AM

MadsL wrote: »

Explain to me again why my personal circumstances have anything to do with the issue.

Explain to me how you Asshumed I was Gordon Gekko from just reading the line..... "Opinions won't warm your arse over the winter though".
Especially since I live in the Irish countryside and I am very far from chasing the Yankee dolla.

MadsL · 03-07-2013 12:44AM

mikom wrote: »

Explain to me how you Asshumed I was Gordon Gekko from just reading the line..... "Opinions won't warm your arse over the winter though".
Especially since I live in the Irish countryside and I am very far from chasing the Yankee dolla.

Your stance is supporting illegal turfcutting and you scoff at anyone expressing concern. That's been clear from more than one post of yours.

Now, how about we get back to the issue, rather than personal gripes. Or perhaps the chance to make personal jibes is all that keeps you posting. So, anything constructive to say?

mikom · 03-07-2013 12:46AM

MadsL wrote: »

Now, how about we get back to the issue, rather than personal gripes. Or perhaps the chance to make personal jibes is all that keeps you posting. So, anything constructive to say?

Constructive, like footing?

Saturday is looking like a dry one.
I'd say I'll be stiff on Sunday morning........ backs of the legs and all that.

MadsL · 03-07-2013 12:58AM

mikom wrote: »

Constructive, like footing?

Saturday is looking like a dry one.
I'd say I'll be stiff on Sunday morning........ backs of the legs and all that.

Absolutely nothing to add then. Other than some childish belief that your individual activity will needle me when some of us have been trying to actual discuss the issue.

You reveal more about your immature attitude the more you post.

mikom · 03-07-2013 01:36AM

MadsL wrote: »

Absolutely nothing to add then. Other than some childish belief that your individual activity will needle me when some of us have been trying to actual discuss the issue.

You reveal more about your immature attitude the more you post.

Such a scolding.....
You make a lot of assumptions, MadsL.
Wound up and too much time to think is what I am assuming.

MadsL · 03-07-2013 01:44AM

mikom wrote: »

Wound up

You'd like that. I think judging by your posts you get some kind of weird thrill out of it.

Now I assume the bog you are cutting is legal, so let's stop the nonsense; so tell me if your bog were designated as an SAC would you stop cutting? Do try really hard to actually have a proper grown-up conversation.

mikom · 03-07-2013 01:56AM

MadsL wrote: »

You'd like that. I think judging by your posts you get some kind of weird thrill out of it.

Now I assume

There you go again with the assumptions.

MadsL wrote: »

Do try really hard to actually have a proper grown-up conversation.

And again with the scolding.

Did you ever hear the saying that "you'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar".

MadsL · 03-07-2013 02:00AM

mikom wrote: »

There you go again with the assumptions.

And again with the scolding.

Did you ever hear the saying that "you'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar".

Yeah, expected that. You actually don't want to discuss it.
So go to bed, save your energy for the turf.

Dissident turfcutters

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