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Were you ever nearly kidnapped when you were younger?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    will.i.am wrote: »
    Just so ye know I am not the real Will.i.am!:)

    You're as real as any other...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    i feel sorry for any of the innocent people who just liked to drive around giving away free sweets


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭Seedy Arling


    There's a saying in Galway 'nearly never shagged the sheep.'

    That is all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭candycock


    i was never kidnapped but i worked on the same building site as larry murphy...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    candycock wrote: »
    i was never kidnapped but i worked on the same building site as larry murphy...

    you must be seriously fugly - even your user name did not get you kidnapped


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭hollster2


    candycock wrote: »
    i was never kidnapped but i worked on the same building site as larry murphy...
    Oh that just gave me the shivers how creepy! You never know what goes on inside closed doors.


  • Site Banned Posts: 192 ✭✭will.i.am


    candycock wrote: »
    i was never kidnapped but i worked on the same building site as larry murphy...

    I wonder what's under the concrete?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    i feel sorry for any of the innocent people who just liked to drive around giving away free sweets

    As someone who worked in the marketing department of Cadbury's for many years you wouldn't believe how hard the baseless paranoia of Irish kids made the task of rounding up focus groups. There I'd be in my van, cruising around the various towns & cities of Ireland to hand out free samples of our latest confections & guage reactions from our young potential customers when I'd be met with a chorus of screams & abuse from young ruffians who you'd think would have nothing but gratefulness for the largesse I was dispensing. Daily Mail madness!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Mr. Gobbledygook


    Apologies in advance for the length of this post. It’s my first post on boards actually, but don't blame you if you skip it. Just thought I’d share my own story.

    This happened a good few years back. It was just the beginning of the summer, I’d got my holidays from primary school the Friday of the week before.

    I live just across the road from a pitch and putt course, which is built around a mental institution/hospital, known as St. Annes. I got up early enough that morning, and since the sun was shining I said I’d go out and knock a ball around for a few holes with my friend. I was only eleven or so a this stage, as I’d just finished fifth class. I knocked on my next door neighbour's door, who was my then best friend at the time, and his mam answered the door. I asked was my friend in and she said he was but that he was grounded and wasn’t going to be let out any time soon. This was a regular enough occurrence. He had three other siblings and the house was always a bit hectic.

    Despite him being grounded, I still decided to go across the road by myself and onto the pitch and putt course with my clubs. I played three holes and was really enjoying the nice weather. The next hole I was going to play was at the very bottom of the course, at the bottom of a slope. The tee box so to speak was just beside a road, which never had any traffic as it just ran on towards an unused overgrown football pitch and a derelict church and building. As I was putting my tee into the rubber mat of the tee box, I heard a car come rolling up behind me and stopping off to my right about 20m or so away (the green was facing up the hill from the tee so the road was behind me). I turned and looked to the car, it was and old enough car, 88 reg, but nothing that out of the ordinary at the time as it was only 12 years old. I saw a pair of eyes look in my general direction from the rear view mirror. I could tell from the back of the persons head and from the bit I saw in the mirror that it was a man driving the car, roughly in his forties or fifties I would have guessed.

    It was highly unusual for anyone to stop at this spot, as cars would never have any reason to stop here or even be there in the first place. Being slightly unnerved I quickly teed off without any practice swings and ran up the hill towards the green. I was the only one on the course at this stage, probably because it was a weekday and people were at work or something, and the flags weren’t even in the holes . I was scared to look back almost, and tried to ignore the car out of fear of making eye contact with the man. I quickly chipped my ball onto the green and putt it in. This took all of about forty seconds I’d say, from tee off, to getting the ball in. Once I picked the ball out of the hole I took a quick glance down towards where the car had been parked up on the side of the road. It was still there, yet for some reason I couldn’t tell where the driver was.

    As I walked over towards another hole ( I skipped one on purpose to get a bit further away ) I could tell that there was definitely nobody in the car anymore. This unsettled me a bit more. I hadn’t even heard a door being closed or anything. The person would have nearly had to purposely close the car door very quietly in order for me not to hear it. I decided to skip another hole again and ran up to a tee box just on the other side of the hospital. I said I’d keep playing and told myself in my head to stop being paranoid and that there was probably a logical or perfectly reasonable explanation behind it all. I usually wasn’t nervous when it came to things like this, but this time something was different. The adrenaline was really pumping .

    I teed off away up a bit of a hill. You couldn’t see the green from where I was because of the steep hill but I knew the ball should be roughly around the edge of it. As I got up near the top I was looking for my ball which I thought would be somewhere to the right of the green. It was nowhere to be seen. At this stage I was getting anxious and couldn’t understand where it could have gone, but wondered if it maybe just took a bad bounce or something like that. Then I heard a loud rustling in a large rather thick bush a bit to the left of the green. From behind it, appeared a man, staring at me, smiling. He looked a bad person though, you know the type, a mugshot would me shown on the news of, that kind. He didn’t make any move for me though. At this point I kind of nodded at him (in a scared yet friendly kind of way) then turned and started walking, then running across the course, clubs in hand, towards the far entrance of the hospital and across home. I didn’t look back once.

    I told my parents what happened the second I got home. My dad went over to see if he could see anything or anyone. No one was out there on the course, and the car that I said had been parked up was now gone.
    The following day, on the echo (cork paper), there was a story of how a man had tried to get a child into his van up by Farranree, an area not too far away, the previous evening i.e. the same day I had my own encounter. The child started shouting and the man took off, however apparently a neighbour followed in their car while alerting the gardai and he was arrested for questioning.

    As far as I remember it turned out he had been wanted for a some minor offences already. I can’t help but wonder if this was the same man I saw on the course that day. Although driving an old car rather than a van, maybe not. Maybe he just went around stealing golf balls :D

    Still creeps me out to this day when I think about it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,037 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    TheBody wrote: »
    Can't say I had a similar experience. Guess I wasn't as sexy as a kid as you were.

    You had, and you were.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭up for anything


    dj jarvis wrote: »
    Ireland must have the most useless pedos on the planet ,
    becasue child abduction in Ireland is extremely rare , in fact other than the case down in cork about ten years back can anyone remember a stranger taking a kid off the street in recent memory ? ( kids in the early 80's from rathfarnham coming home from school is the last un solved one i can think of )

    but according to the amount of tales here the streets are just full of kidnappers trying with no success,
    so they really must be the worst at kidnapping in the world or its the most under reported crime in Ireland.

    Ireland is SUPER safe for this kind of thing - but yet our closest neighbour is another story - go figure

    In years gone by there was a different relationship between children and parents. I think a lot of children didn't report these events to their parents out of a fear of being blamed for them happening or having their freedom curtailed because of them. My children tended to tell me just about everything (or at least they did until they reached about 14) to the point where I thought I'd really prefer not to know every little thing that upsets you in your life because I felt that upset for them too.

    Yet I never told my parents that my great-uncle* (not such a great uncle to have) tried to molest me when I was about 8/9. I didn't tell them about being bullied unmercifully by mean girls when I was in 6th class. I never told them about how the chief bully and her brother nearly set my friend on fire during a 'game'. I didn't tell them about a completely different set of bullies again during 6th class - a young lad who wanted me to be his girlfriend and resorted to intimidation and violence in order to try and win my little heart. For about 6 months every time I went out, with or without my two friends he was there with his three friends. I was terrified. The entire population of the village knew this was going on but not a soul informed my parents. I also never told them about getting kidnapped when hitchhiking (never reported that to the guards either).

    Equally I would imagine that the unlucky children who did accept that lift/invite to see puppies or were dragged unwilling into cars did not tell their parents either but coped and suffered in silence, and if they did tell their parents the damage limitation was carried out in secrecy and never came to the notice of the guards or if it did that they looked the other way.

    For most of Ireland anything to do with sex was never spoken about so children could hardly be expected to put two and two together. You knew something was wrong and you either managed to avoid it or not. Paedophiles could operate fairly safely in the days before Ireland acknowledged that there were such people or that there was such a thing. Half the time I'd say they didn't even have to threaten a child in order to gain their silence. Silence was the the usual setting.



    *That particular relative went on to try and molest my younger sister and succeeded in molesting/raping my first cousin for years. He had a huge extended family who visited him and his wife. Feck knows how many others he interfered with as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭NuckingFacker


    I know I was, twice - first time an old lad asked me for directions(I was 8) and when I told him, said "show me" - (was down a dark road, ergo, feck off ye old sod) - I ran off and he roared after me that he would get me again and I'd be sorry. Scared the crap out of me.

    Second time I was playing hide and seek in a woods with my mates, I was 9, and a man grabbed me from behind as I was crouched, hiding - I kicked and fought and got away and ran for my life before he could do anything. Next day a kid down the road was abducted - I was too scared to say anything.

    Now i am big and hairy, i reserve a special loathing for paedos and will happily reconfigure them whenever given the chance. There must be an awful, awful lot of the cnuts out there..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,494 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    A lot of things "nearly" happened to me.

    Similarly a lot of things "nearly" didn't happen to me.

    Don't believe everything you think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 595 ✭✭✭ElvisChrist6


    Not exactly nearly, but this was a bit odd.
    I was walking down Parkgate Street one day when this fella, looked a bit of a tramp, with a really unusual Scottish accent mixed with something else says as I passed him:
    "Young boy, do you like bourbons?"

    I was a bit confused by this, especially with the accent. He then continues:

    "What about Custard Cremes?"

    I think they were time travelling kidnappers from the 30's!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭NuckingFacker


    T-Maxx wrote: »
    A lot of things "nearly" happened to me.

    Similarly a lot of things "nearly" didn't happen to me.

    Don't believe everything you think.
    Mine weren't nearly, looking back, I was damn lucky - have never forgotten either incident. There but for the grace of God...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭Tiddlypeeps


    When I was 6 I was walking down the street around the corner from my house with my sister who was 7 when a car pulled up beside us. There were two men in the front, the driver asked us to get into the back of the car and offered us sweets. His tone was really strange, he was kind of taking the piss out of us at the same time, was really weird. I don't remember much of what was said but one of the things that stuck with me was him saying he had a dead parrot in the car that he could show us :/ We said no thanks and ran home. I'll never know if that was just some weirdo who's idea of a good time is winding up young girls or if we actually narrowly avoided something horrific.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    The Paranoia in Ireland Mid/late 90's must have been a nightmare for perverts (Joke) ....I remember some poor lad used to watch us play football, used to give us sweets and that...he was recruiting for a football team but the neighbours were having none of it and called the police.....the team turned out to be legit and all.

    It's worse now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭Sir Osis of Liver.


    candycock wrote: »
    i was never kidnapped but i worked on the same building site as larry murphy...
    Farah Noor,he of Mulhall Sisters fame was a labourer on a site I worked on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    No. No-one wants a wonky eyed chubby kid :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭NuckingFacker


    Farah Noor,he of Mulhall Sisters fame was a labourer on a site I worked on.
    Murphy worked as a carpenter on a house i was building. I thought he was an odd cnut then, and I think he's a bad cnut now. At the time, I thought he was just a bit strange, looking back, he was a piece of work. There's a lot of cnuts in the world, you just have to wonder wtf is up with some people. He drove a nail through a pipe in the floor and I ate the head off him. I'm sorry i didn't bate the head off him with hindsight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    *(
    In years gone by there was a different relationship between children and parents. I think a lot of children didn't report these events to their parents out of a fear of being blamed for them happening or having their freedom curtailed because of them. My children tended to tell me just about everything (or at least they did until they reached about 14) to the point where I thought I'd really prefer not to know every little thing that upsets you in your life because I felt that upset for them too.

    Yet I never told my parents that my great-uncle* (not such a great uncle to have) tried to molest me when I was about 8/9. I didn't tell them about being bullied unmercifully by mean girls when I was in 6th class. I never told them about how the chief bully and her brother nearly set my friend on fire during a 'game'. I didn't tell them about a completely different set of bullies again during 6th class - a young lad who wanted me to be his girlfriend and resorted to intimidation and violence in order to try and win my little heart. For about 6 months every time I went out, with or without my two friends he was there with his three friends. I was terrified. The entire population of the village knew this was going on but not a soul informed my parents. I also never told them about getting kidnapped when hitchhiking (never reported that to the guards either).

    Equally I would imagine that the unlucky children who did accept that lift/invite to see puppies or were dragged unwilling into cars did not tell their parents either but coped and suffered in silence, and if they did tell their parents the damage limitation was carried out in secrecy and never came to the notice of the guards or if it did that they looked the other way.

    For most of Ireland anything to do with sex was never spoken about so children could hardly be expected to put two and two together. You knew something was wrong and you either managed to avoid it or not. Paedophiles could operate fairly safely in the days before Ireland acknowledged that there were such people or that there was such a thing. Half the time I'd say they didn't even have to threaten a child in order to gain their silence. Silence was the the usual setting.



    *That particular relative went on to try and molest my younger sister and succeeded in molesting/raping my first cousin for years. He had a huge extended family who visited him and his wife. Feck knows how many others he interfered with as well.

    Yeah, there barn where we went to play when we were kids. One day I went with my sister (we were maybe 9 and 7) and there was an auld man there. And he fondled us, for want of a better word. He didn't hurt us, but was right in the 'very very wrong things to be doing to small girls' category, and we were there for a good while, maybe an hour. And then we went home for tea (him saying 'no' and promising us sweets if we came back). And of course we were not coming back ever, because I knew it was wrong, but I was afraid if we said anything my parents would give out to me for not minding my sister. Which is insanely ridiculous now.

    Anyway, my sister announced it to my Mam at bedtime that night, and the auld fella (apparently it was known he'd go there to drink and sleep the odd time) was never seen again. I don't even know if my sister remembers that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Murphy worked as a carpenter on a house i was building. I thought he was an odd cnut then, and I think he's a bad cnut now. At the time, I thought he was just a bit strange, looking back, he was a piece of work. There's a lot of cnuts in the world, you just have to wonder wtf is up with some people. He drove a nail through a pipe in the floor and I ate the head off him. I'm sorry i didn't bate the head off him with hindsight.

    What would that have achieved?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭NuckingFacker


    efb wrote: »
    What would that have achieved?
    It would have made me feel better to have inflicted pain on a person who enjoyed inflicting pain on people who were unable to defend themselves against him. That might be a bit base in your view, but there you go. Evil requires nothing more to triumph than for good men to stand back and do nothing, if you like. I have sisters and kids. It could be them next, or someone elses sister or kid. A hiding puts manners on all sorts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    It would have made me feel better to have inflicted pain on a person who enjoyed inflicting pain on people who were unable to defend themselves against him. That might be a bit base in your view, but there you go. Evil requires nothing more to triumph than for good men to stand back and do nothing, if you like. I have sisters and kids. It could be them next, or someone elses sister or kid. A hiding puts manners on all sorts.

    How or why would it stop him?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    No. but I was nearly run over and killed by a car


    Think of all that tax yous had saved...;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Nabber


    I've put all the clues and dates together....

    It has to be Gay Byrne who did all these attempts. All the failures just proves it was him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭DesperateDan


    My older brother had a close one, he was about 16 at the time so had some wits about him. He became friends with the local (surprisingly for this story - protestant) priest (or whatever you call the protestant equivalent, vicar, reverend?). The guy collected WW2 figurines, the type you paint and play war games with. My brother (and me actually), were well into WW1 and WW2 at the time, and Warhammer for the nerds out there who know what that is. We had books, antique trinkets, photos etc. from WW2.

    So this guy comes round for cups of tea with the mother, and chats to my bro about WW2, including bringing round the odd magazine and collectible miniature he's painted. He's the local priest for our tiny little Parochial primary school, so I see him once a week there. He was also the priest for my future secondary school, and had been for years. He was very softly spoken and in hindsight actually a creepy b*stard. In primary school he'd come up to us, ask us a question and then maybe touch your head or shoulder.

    One day my bro goes round to his house literally to see his collection of models and play some war games (with a 50 year old man, that's how much we trusted him). My bro is examining one model and this guy touches him on the leg and gives some inappropriate one-liner about how boys are full of hormones at his age.

    Bro legs it out the house like a flash.

    That evening my mum's partner goes round there and floors him in one fell swoop and tells him to never talk to the family again.

    Flash forward 3 years (2003) and I see this guy appear in my secondary school. He's the reverend for the boarding students so I only saw him briefly but he would be there every Wednesday and it creeped me the hell out.

    That year he is in the papers and locked up for having a young boy perform oral sex on him, repeatedly over the course of a few months, in his house and the boys when the parents weren't there. I always think to myself how he must have used that authoritative, endearing, personality / voice to build up a rapport with the kid and then break him down like he could've with my brother.

    2nd story - some guy pulled up beside me (3 min walk from town) and offered to give me a lift when I was about 12. I said 'No thanks buddy', he sped off, turned round, pulled up beside me again and said 'go on will ya, hop in'. I ignored him, he sped off again and turned around, I legged it as fast as my legs could carry me as he was speeding off this time. Absolutely petrified the 3rd time he was gonna try and bundle me into his car!

    Edit: Hope it's okay to put this here - here's a link to his story, he would be out of jail now :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭jessiblah


    TheBody wrote: »
    Can't say I had a similar experience. Guess I wasn't as sexy as a kid as you were.
    I wasn't as sexy as a kid as you were.

    Been there, posted that. Bit late!

    I'm freaked reading about this. I don't want to be thinking that this could happen nowadays, although it would be naive to believe that, as I've two young cousins (7 and almost 4 years). I doubt either would know what to do if someone approached them like this. They know not to talk to strangers, but I just doubt if they'd cop not to.

    I had one experience which freaked me out when I was younger. I was 11 or 12, walking my young small dog as usual around the estate a few times. My friend wasn't out so I was alone. There had been a few kids in the area saying to beware of the white van after girl I knew had a man in a white van approach her and try to get her into his van, while she waited outside the garden for her friend. The friends Mam had seen it and called the girl into the house. She went out to the garden to see what the man wanted and he was gone. Anyway, this had most of us a bit freaked for weeks.

    I was walking my dog. It was quite dark out and a bit late. I was about 20 houses from mine. The estate is basically a square shape. So I was just near the corner to turn, when suddenly coming towards me was a white van. I looked at it for a second, two men sitting in the front staring at me. It completely freaked me out, and I didn't know whether to run away from it (it would have taken about 7 minutes of running to go around the whole estate, meaning it would have caught me), or run towards home. I continued until I had to cross the road to turn, and the van vroomed upto the path and was now less than a meter from me. The headlights shone in my eyes and I was just freaking. I ran for my house but when I was running across the road the van reversed and ended up just kinda on the path of the next block of houses. I think I picked up my dog then (tiny thing isn't the fastest) and anyway we ran home. I looked back once and knew they'd never catch me as it takes too long to turn cars around in that corner.

    When I got home I remember looking outside. My dog and I sat at the window, although I wanted to hide incase they tried to break in or something. The van circled the estate a few times before leaving. I remember wondering if they were looking for me or if they were just lost. It freaked me out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭jamesbondings


    Yea. I grew up in the churchtown area and went to st Mary's on the grange road as a boy. Me an my brother always walked to and from school anyways. One day walking home from school a white van pulled up beside us. It was by the shops outside nutgrove. I looked at the front seat, three lads squashed in so me and the brother quickened the pace. As we did i could hear the side door slide open and i glanced back to see two lads hop out one of them brandishing a knife. We legged it screaming down the road. Only made it like ten yards and a small car pulls up with a woman in it screaming get in. I looked in the back and seen a toddler so made the decision that this lady would help us (she did but could have easily been a part of the gang). She said she seen the van at the yellow house and just decided to follow it as it gave her an odd feeling. Lucky for me and the bro.

    The lady dropped us home and came in to speak with the parents, ten minutes later the house was full of gaurds asking all sorts.

    Long story short they caught them. However decided not to do anything about it as they said they were only messing with us.....

    Horrible day never felt safe walking to school ever again.


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