Dissident turfcutters

MadsL · 02-07-2013 04:58PM

mikom wrote: »

All fines are being sent by western union to Gaia, the goddess of nature.

As much as you want to make a joke of it, I hardly think €9m a year completely unnecessary expense - coupled with the €750m it has cost so far in dealing with these 'heroes' is something to find funny. But then you consider that joke of a TD Ming to be someone to take seriously.

The Govt has just considered cutting resource teachers to special needs kids to save this kind of money.

mikom · 02-07-2013 05:05PM

Bogs killing off resource teachers to special needs kids linkage.
Well done.

American gun owners killing off highschool students.

See how that works.... or doesn't, depending on which side of the water you are.

Rad! · 02-07-2013 05:12PM

http://www.jstor.org/stable/pdfplus/30004047.pdf

THE TURF CUTTERS OF THE BOG OF ALLEN.

The Grand Canal from Dublin to Ballinasloe passes through the middle of the Bog of Allen. Being desirous of seeing a spot, with which so many interesting events in the history of Ireland are connected, I availed myself, in the autumn of 1834, of the circumstance of having some business which required my presence in the County of Galway, to go there by the Canal packet.

For the first fifteen miles from Dublin, the course of the Canal, which is along the high southern bank of the Liffey for the greater part of this distance, lies through a tract of country which, for the rare and happy combination
of fertility and picturesque beauty, is not, perhaps, surpassed by any other of the same extent in the universe. On the left you have the lofty chain of the Wicklow mountains, grass clad to their summit...

At the distance of five miles farther-twenty miles from Dublin-you find yourself upon the Bog of Allen. Words cannot describe the overwhelming sensations that are produced by the contrast in the aspect of the scene of dreariness and desolation that now presents itself, and every where surrounds you. To comprehend them it must be seen. Imagine yourself-or, as it was with me, that you had gone down for a couple of hours to the
cabin, and then returned upon deck-imagine yourself, then, suddenly transported from the delightful scenes I have described, to a wild dreary waste, covered with patches of gorse and dingy brown heath, alternating with the black surface of the bog, or with some slimy morass; and no other marks of inhabitation or of cultivation, save here and there an insulated hovel, its roof barely raised above the soil, in which it appears to be, and not unfrequently is, imbedded, to which is attached occasionally a small stripe of grass or corn. Such is the general aspect of the unreclaimed portions of this bog.

In ancient times the bog of Allen was computed to contain 1,000,000 of acres. At present, it does not exceed 500,000 : and even this quantity is rapidly diminishing under the hand of cultivation; and, in all probability,
the day is not far distant, when the whole of these wastes will be reclaimed; and this, perhaps once one of fairest portions of Ireland, be restored to its pristine state.

To this end the Grand Canal and also the Royal Canal which traverse the counties of Meath, Westmeath, and Longford in its passage also, to the Shannon, mateally contribute. A large breadth of drainage has been
effected since their completion; and a corresponding extent of land has been thereby brought into cultivation. To these ends, also, the humble labours of the turf-cutter have been essentially aiding.

Like the backwoodsmen of America, these men are in these wastes the
pioneers of improvement.

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4 · 02-07-2013 05:17PM

might as well lock this thread? I think it has ran its course for this year. We will hear all about it again the next time the turf cutters are in the news

MadsL · 02-07-2013 05:17PM

mikom wrote: »

Bogs killing off resource teachers to special needs kids linkage.
Well done.

American gun owners killing off highschool students.

See how that works.... or doesn't, depending on which side of the water you are.

Frankly it doesn't.

Unless you happen to believe Ireland has a limitless pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

Private ownership of guns has nothing to do with the limited resources of Govt spending as much as you desperately want to throw some kind of barb out about some other topic in your sad efforts to defend the indefensible.

Uriel. · 02-07-2013 05:22PM

mikom wrote: »

Bogs killing off resource teachers to special needs kids linkage.
Well done.

American gun owners killing off highschool students.

See how that works.... or doesn't, depending on which side of the water you are.

Do you advocate the Government handing over €9m a year in fines (or the most likely scenario, having €9m of EU funds withheld) to allow cutting on 53 bogs?

mikom · 02-07-2013 05:23PM

Only a fine if you pay it to your masters.

"Rain looks to be clearing off".

MadsL · 02-07-2013 05:24PM

Uriel. wrote: »

Do you advocate the Government handing over €9m a year in fines (or the most likely scenario, having €9m of EU funds withheld) to allow cutting on 53 bogs?

Jesus don't ask Mikom to actually debate, he's only here to post things he thinks are funny.

Galwayguy35 · 02-07-2013 05:25PM

John_Rambo wrote: »

The product is free. If you have to use a contractor to do the dirty work, that's your problem.

Wrong, we buy the plot of turf from the owner and save it ourselves, so no it's not free.

mikom · 02-07-2013 05:26PM

MadsL wrote: »

Jesus don't ask Mikom to actually debate, he's only here to post things he thinks are funny.

Turn up the air conditioning there, Mad.
You're getting a bit hot under the collar.

Galwayguy35 · 02-07-2013 05:27PM

OpenYourEyes wrote: »

If you're cutting on an SAC now you get either €1,500 a year, a load of turf every year, or an alternative bog to cut - so thats fair enough if you needed the fuel, but thats no excuse now given that the compensation on offer is more than adequate.

Theres also a trial project on in one locality where turfcutters are helped switch to more sustainable energy and heating in their homes, which will be rolled out over a larger area if it proves successful.

I'm not using one of the disputed bogs.

Seedy Arling · 02-07-2013 05:28PM

MadsL wrote: »

Jesus don't ask Mikom to actually debate, he's only here to post things he thinks are funny.

Where do you think you are posting? AH is a place that is meant for merriment, are you so up your own hole that we should be studiously stroking our beards and hanging on every enlightened word you utter?

mikom · 02-07-2013 05:31PM

Seedy Arling wrote: »

Where do you think you are posting? AH is a place that is meant for merriment, are you so up your own hole that we should be studiously stroking our beards and hanging on every enlightened word you utter?

Yep.

MadsL · 02-07-2013 05:31PM

Seedy Arling wrote: »

Where do you think you are posting? AH is a place that is meant for merriment, are you so up your own hole that we should be studiously stroking our beards and hanging on every enlightened word you utter?

More a comment on Mikom's posting style in any forum, actually asking him to debate a point is like trying to stuff an eel into a ham sandwich.

mikom · 02-07-2013 05:32PM

MadsL wrote: »

More a comment on Mikom's posting style in any forum, actually asking him to debate a point is like trying to stuff an eel into a ham sandwich.

Enough about your sex life.
Tell me more about the bogs in Las Vegas ..........Babyyyyyy.

MadsL · 02-07-2013 05:33PM

mikom wrote: »

Enough about your sex life.
Tell me more about the bogs in Las Vegas ..........Babyyyyyy.

Yeah, see what I mean. ^^^

Seedy Arling · 02-07-2013 05:36PM

MadsL wrote: »

More a comment on Mikom's posting style in any forum, actually asking him to debate a point is like trying to stuff an eel into a ham sandwich.

I'm sorry, I dont spend my days pulling the stomach out of myself wonder about Mikoms posting style. I misunderstood.

end of the road · 02-07-2013 05:37PM

MadsL wrote: »

you consider that joke of a TD Ming to be someone to take seriously.

at least he actually gives a dam about the people he represents and is loved in his constituency, he might be a joke to you but at least he's a decent sort who actually gives a dam and cares for his people

MadsL wrote: »

The Govt has just considered cutting resource teachers to special needs kids to save this kind of money.

nice try, but those who feel they have to cut turf must do so, cutting special needs resources is going to happen anyway and has nothing to do with the turf cutters but the bank bailout.

MadsL · 02-07-2013 05:37PM

Seedy Arling wrote: »

I'm sorry, I dont spend my days pulling the stomach out of myself wonder about Mikoms posting style. I misunderstood.

What the actual fuck? Are these words people actual use?

mikom · 02-07-2013 05:38PM

MadsL wrote: »

Are these words people actual use?

Lol
A glitch in the Matrix............ pressure must be building.

MadsL · 02-07-2013 05:41PM

end of the road wrote: »

at least he actually gives a dam about the people he represents and is loved in his constituency, he might be a joke to you but at least he's a decent sort who actually gives a dam and cares for his people

Now you are the one trying to be funny, tell me, how is that 'campaign' of his going about TDs and penalty points. The mask slipped a bit there dontch think.

nice try, but those who feel they have to cut turf must do so, cutting special needs resources is going to happen anyway and has nothing to do with the turf cutters but the bank bailout.

Huh? We should pay €9m a year on turfcutters behalf because we are going to cut special needs education 'anyway'. Do you actual think €9m is monopoly money.

OpenYourEyes · 02-07-2013 05:41PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I'm not using one of the disputed bogs.

I did say "If you're cutting on an SAC..."

MadsL · 02-07-2013 05:42PM

mikom wrote: »

Lol
A glitch in the Matrix............ pressure must be building.

Don't you have some turf to be "saved"? - oh the irony of that expression.

Seedy Arling · 02-07-2013 05:43PM

MadsL wrote: »

What the actual fuck? Are these words people actual use?

Relax dude, you need to smoke a bit of turf.

end of the road · 02-07-2013 05:43PM

super_furry wrote: »

Backwards, stubborn daft bogmen.

says the tree hugging extremist

super_furry wrote: »

Lock them up if they keep it up.

and tripple the prison costs and make the likes of you pay them, you want them locked up, you pay for it.

OpenYourEyes · 02-07-2013 05:44PM

end of the road wrote: »

at least he actually gives a dam about the people he represents and is loved in his constituency, he might be a joke to you but at least he's a decent sort who actually gives a dam and cares for his people

nice try, but those who feel they have to cut turf must do so, cutting special needs resources is going to happen anyway and has nothing to do with the turf cutters but the bank bailout.

He's not. He's loved by a few, but most of the people in his constituency don't expect or want him to get in next time, so he probably won't! (I'm in his constituency)

MadsL · 02-07-2013 05:49PM

end of the road wrote: »

and tripple the prison costs and make the likes of you pay them, you want them locked up, you pay for it.

I'd say some of the Gardai who got into great condition swinging batons at Shell protesters could be persuaded to have a little warm up out at the bog, shouldn't cost that much.

But then again cracking crustie knees when they are legally protesting is OK, but the softly softly on people actually breaking the law is the way to go.

mikom · 02-07-2013 05:56PM

MadsL wrote: »

Don't you have some turf to be "saved"? - oh the irony of that expression.

The rain "just" cleared off, Madsl
The rows have a good crust on them since last week, but it will be the weekend before myself and the family get down there.

end of the road · 02-07-2013 07:01PM

MadsL wrote: »

I'd say some of the Gardai who got into great condition swinging batons at Shell protesters could be persuaded to have a little warm up out at the bog, shouldn't cost that much.

it would cost way to much, if it happened the turf cutters would have to arm themselves to both protect themselves from baton wealing vermin and to allow themselves cut their turf in peace.

MadsL wrote: »

But then again cracking crustie knees when they are legally protesting is OK

no it isn't

MadsL wrote: »

but the softly softly on people actually breaking the law is the way to go.

yes, it causes less trouble in the long run

MadsL · 02-07-2013 08:00PM

end of the road wrote: »

vermin

Really sums up the attitude frankly.

Dissident turfcutters

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