It’s Labour’s way or Frankfurt’s way aka the Irish people lied to

skimpydoo · 30-06-2013 01:03AM #1

Since Gilmore and his cronies blatantly lied to us shouldn't we make sure that Labour do not get any seats in the local elections next year. They need to be shown that we the Irish people have had enough of what their party is putting us through. Before anyone jumps in and says FF got us in this mess, Labour still voted for the bank guarantee. We all know that the developers and bankers etc who helped cause this mess will get off scot free.

Poo Fingers · 30-06-2013 01:05AM

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Agricola · 30-06-2013 01:09AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAS0c5AkiNg

policarp · 30-06-2013 01:13AM

Deuchland, Duechland, Diechland,
Uber Alice. . .
Labour can't even spell Labor. . .

Dartz · 30-06-2013 01:14AM

Can't vote for Fianna Fail. Can't vote for Fine Geal. Can't vote for Labour. Can't vote for Sinn Fein...

What the **** is left?

Balmed Out · 30-06-2013 01:15AM

Is there a party that hasn't lied to us?

flutered · 30-06-2013 01:16AM

it took a long time for you to realise this.

skimpydoo · 30-06-2013 01:17AM

Agricola wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAS0c5AkiNg

Isn't that what you tend to do during an election said Pat The Hat Rabbitte. Well Pat I hope your party goes the same way as the Greens and also the PD's.

Bassfish · 30-06-2013 01:19AM

Dartz wrote: »

Can't vote for Fianna Fail. Can't vote for Fine Geal. Can't vote for Labour. Can't vote for Sinn Fein...

What the **** is left?

Unfortunately, history tells us that this is the situation that often leads to dangerous far right/far left nut cases getting elected, especially when they have the cop on to present themselves as mainstream and respectable.

dar926 · 30-06-2013 01:20AM

Cant stand Labour.. But they didn't vote for the bank guarantee, they were the only party that didnt

skimpydoo · 30-06-2013 01:26AM

flutered wrote: »

it took a long time for you to realise this.

No that's why I only voted for Independent's in the last election.

downonthefarm · 30-06-2013 01:29AM

Balmed Out wrote: »

Is there a party that hasn't lied to us?

anne summers party?

danthedolphin · 30-06-2013 01:31AM

dar926 wrote: »

Cant stand Labour.. But they didn't vote for the bank guarantee, they were the only party that didnt

And haven't they been making up for it ever since.

Peregrine · 30-06-2013 01:33AM

policarp wrote: »

Labour can't even spell Labor. . .

I spell it 'Labour'..

You're not in America

skimpydoo · 30-06-2013 01:36AM

dar926 wrote: »

Cant stand Labour.. But they didn't vote for the bank guarantee, they were the only party that didnt

i stand corrected.

Labour claims that it did not support the guarantee. Brian Lenihan said that they only objected to it on technical grounds.

In September 2008, Joan Burton called on the government to raise the limit on the deposit protection scheme from €20k to €100k.

On Prime Time 2011 last Joan Burton said that anyone who bought bonds in Anglo and Irish Natiowide since 2006 should be burnt because "the dogs in the street knew that these banks were compromised". If she knew back in 2006 that these banks were compromised, why did she want to increase the guarantee to the depositors in these institutions?

TheFOB · 30-06-2013 01:40AM

skimpydoo wrote: »

i stand corrected.

Labour claims that it did not support the guarantee. Brian Lenihan said that they only objected to it on technical grounds.

In September 2008, Joan Burton called on the government to raise the limit on the deposit protection scheme from €20k to €100k.

On Prime Time 2011 last Joan Burton said that anyone who bought bonds in Anglo and Irish Natiowide since 2006 should be burnt because "the dogs in the street knew that these banks were compromised". If she knew back in 2006 that these banks were compromised, why did she want to increase the guarantee to the depositors in these institutions?

You're mixing up bond holders and ordinary depositors. Bond holders refer mainly to the large European banks, governments and the ECB, depositors were your local butchers etc. who had their business loans with Anglo.

policarp · 30-06-2013 01:44AM

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

I spell it 'Labour'..

You're not in America

That was supposed to be a tongue in cheek comment.
In other words they don't know what they are doing. . .
Or where they are going. . .

Pride Fighter · 30-06-2013 01:45AM

Bunch of sellouts, you know what to do at the next local elections. Punish them.

But dont vote FF or FG, they are even worse.

flutered · 30-06-2013 02:02AM

naw he should be called the fat phat bunny, getit.

yosser hughes · 30-06-2013 02:16AM

skimpydoo wrote: »

Since Gilmore and his cronies blatantly lied to us shouldn't we make sure that Labour do not get any seats in the local elections next year. They need to be shown that we the Irish people have had enough of what their party is putting us through. Before anyone jumps in and says FF got us in this mess, Labour still voted for the bank guarantee. We all know that the developers and bankers etc who helped cause this mess will get off scot free.

Maybe before throwing around accusations and getting on your high horse you should inform yourself first.
Labour didn't vote for the bank guarantee and you don't actually have a clue about what you're talking about.
Yes, Fianna fail got us in this mess and I've no doubt you will vote for them the first chance you get.Well done. I hope you're proud.
What age age are you?

The_Valeyard · 30-06-2013 02:35AM

Dartz wrote: »

Can't vote for Fianna Fail. Can't vote for Fine Geal. Can't vote for Labour. Can't vote for Sinn Fein...

What the **** is left?

+1 on this.

Very frustrating. It leave me with a bemused rage.

skimpydoo · 30-06-2013 02:53AM

yosser hughes wrote: »

Maybe before throwing around accusations and getting on your high horse you should inform yourself first.
Labour didn't vote for the bank guarantee and you don't actually have a clue about what you're talking about.
Yes, Fianna fail got us in this mess and I've no doubt you will vote for them the first chance you get.Well done. I hope you're proud.
What age age are you?

I admitted earlier in another post that I was wrong in stating that labour voted for the bank guarantee plan so I suggest that you take a look at my earlier posts.

As for assuming I will vote FF again you don't know mew that well.
I will never ever vote for FF, FG ever again. In 2007 I voted for Lucinda Creighton my local councilor as I was sick of how FF were running the country. In the last election I voted for 2 Independents and stayed clear of FG who sadly never got in especially Paul Sommerville who like Stephen Donnelly would have added a lot to the Dail. I have never ever voted Labour and I have only voted FF in 1997 and 2001.

And yes I am proud. Proud for not voting for FF since 2002.

skimpydoo · 30-06-2013 02:55AM

The_Valeyard wrote: »

+1 on this.

Very frustrating. It leave me with a bemused rage.

There is always Ganley if he forms a party or Independents.

Dartz · 30-06-2013 01:56PM

Can we start our own party?

What happened to the Pirate Party?

Kev.OC · 01-07-2013 12:23AM

skimpydoo wrote: »

There is always Ganley if he forms a party or Independents.

He'd get my vote anyway.

I wasn't following politics at all last time he was running, but my memory of it is that anytime he was debating any politicians they were attacking him and demanding to know where his money came from, rather than directly debating his policies. That, to me, gives the impression that the politicians didn't have a leg to stand on. He has solid arguments so instead of debating him on the points they tried to discredit him.

I could be completely wrong about all that, but that's how I remember it. It's depressing that when it comes to politics in Ireland, our two biggest parties are Fianna Fail and Fine Gael. Two cheeks of the same arse.

skimpydoo · 01-07-2013 12:35AM

Kev.OC wrote: »

He'd get my vote anyway.

I wasn't following politics at all last time he was running, but my memory of it is that anytime he was debating any politicians they were attacking him and demanding to know where his money came from, rather than directly debating his policies. That, to me, gives the impression that the politicians didn't have a leg to stand on. He has solid arguments so instead of debating him on the points they tried to discredit him.

I could be completely wrong about all that, but that's how I remember it. It's depressing that when it comes to politics in Ireland, our two biggest parties are Fianna Fail and Fine Gael. Two cheeks of the same arse.

FF & FG are civil war politics. Ganley is a breath of fresh air and like you said those who discredit him do not do so on his policies which I must say are rather good. As he also has no links to any bankers or civil servants you can be guaranteed a good investigation into what happened to the banks and he also wants the Bond Holders to repay us back.

shedweller · 01-07-2013 12:43AM

Poo Fingers wrote: »

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Sorry, what the **** is this ****?

Celly Smunt · 01-07-2013 12:54AM

Anybody who actually believed the promises made by any of the party's during the run up to that election should have their voting rights stripped from them.We'll have Labour TD's jumping ship to the united left coming up to the next elections spouting the same shite joe soap wants to hear in order to help themselves out of the sinking ship that is labour.The next government will put the final nail in Ireland's coffin next time around,as i am fearing we might have a basket case left majority from sinn fein and others.

Dostoevsky · 01-07-2013 01:40AM

Ganley is as shady a character as they come. The source of his wealth is as dubious as his changeable national identity. His econonic ideas make Michael McDowell seem like a cross between Peadar O Donnell and Che Guevara. His proposal that everybody pay 20% income tax regardless of income would gladden the heart of any "no such thing as society" sociopath from the Margaret Thatcher fan club.

There are no political alternatives to the policies of the four main parties, nor will there be until the Irish people mass mobilise to change the state's political culture. Simple, really.

Cookie_Monster · 01-07-2013 02:20AM

Dartz wrote: »

Can't vote for Fianna Fail. Can't vote for Fine Geal. Can't vote for Labour. Can't vote for Sinn Fein...

What the **** is left?

The Green Party of course
:pac:

Jimoslimos · 01-07-2013 02:29AM

skimpydoo wrote: »

There is always Ganley if he forms a party or Independents.

skimpydoo wrote: »

FF & FG are civil war politics. Ganley is a breath of fresh air and like you said those who discredit him do not do so on his policies which I must say are rather good. As he also has no links to any bankers or civil servants you can be guaranteed a good investigation into what happened to the banks and he also wants the Bond Holders to repay us back.

Subtle, very subtle indeed.

It’s Labour’s way or Frankfurt’s way aka the Irish people lied to

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