Humanists added to Register of Solemnisers

mailforkev · 28-06-2013 01:00PM #1

Just a note that as of earlier this week the Humanist Association of Ireland has had all their celebrants (11 or 12 people I think) added to the Register of Solemnisers. They had only one celebrant on the list up to now.

Basically this means that effective immediately they can legally marry couples.

So for those of you looking for a secular wedding ceremony there is now finally more of a proper option without having to resort to the spiritualists (or fit within HSE hours).

Hopefully this is good news for some of you.

ionapaul · 28-06-2013 02:56PM

Yep, we're getting married on a Saturday in September by one of the newly-accredited solemnisers

Had it booked since last December / January though, so had our fingers crossed up until this point!

demail · 28-06-2013 04:18PM

where did you get this info? Do you have a link?

Daisy Dalzer · 28-06-2013 05:43PM

I've looked online but I can't find this information anywhere- we are anxiously hoping that it does happen (we have our humanist wedding booked) ... Any links? There is nothing on the Humanist website yet..

pooch90 · 28-06-2013 06:15PM

Our humanist celebrant emailed us today and told us she was officially registered.

stinkle · 28-06-2013 06:28PM

our celebrant emailed us too and it was mentioned at a Humanist meeting during the week, so it's definite

I imagine the names will go on the HSE online list asap.

I'm so delighted about this, we were having a humanist ceremony regardless but not having to faff around with an additional civil ceremony has cheered me up

pooch90 · 28-06-2013 07:11PM

Me too, feels real now! Even though we're over 12 months away.

tatli_lokma · 29-06-2013 12:48AM

That's great news at last.

Although I loved our ceremony and our register was wonderful, it would have been brilliant to have had our wedding on a Saturday rather than a week day. So I am slightly jealous of all you lucky folk who will get to take advantage of this new development.

skippy15 · 29-06-2013 12:51AM

The Humanist organisation had an emergency AGM on wed and basically discusses a number of high profile issues eg: disbanding the org, rejecting the bill that was passed and removing the one celebrant who was previously able to legal marry, Brian

Looks like all was passed and as such and all celebrants can now legally marry. and they will go from strength to strength as an org.
We have ours booked with them for end of year, are ideal to deal with and will be a major force now in booking legal weddings at weekends over other such smaller groups. fair play and good luck to all involved!:p:)

mailforkev · 29-06-2013 11:21AM

demail wrote: »

where did you get this info? Do you have a link?

Sorry, I don't have a link for my OP but I both attended and voted at the EGM of the HAI on Wednesday so you'll just have to trust me

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Emails have been sent notifying couples who were booked also as mentioned above.

I'm getting married myself in Dec so it's one less thing to stress about from a personal perspective as it was really dragging on.

Gatica · 29-06-2013 05:17PM

Little Ted wrote: »

That's great news at last.

Although I loved our ceremony and our register was wonderful, it would have been brilliant to have had our wedding on a Saturday rather than a week day. So I am slightly jealous of all you lucky folk who will get to take advantage of this new development.

LOL! same as... Had to book for a weekday to have a HSE wedding, that didn't work out so ended up going with SU. Would've loved a guaranteed weekend wedding. Then again, it rained on Saturday and we got lucky to have sunny weather on the Friday we got married.

Congrats to everyone who's now able to have their proper legal ceremony the way they want it!

Addle · 29-06-2013 05:46PM

Any sign of the law changing regarding ceremony venues?

stinkle · 29-06-2013 09:52PM

http://humanism.ie/2013/06/legal-humanist-marriages-at-last/

Here's a link to the HAI website

pooch90 · 30-06-2013 05:58PM

Addle, you can get married anywhere with HAI, it's the HSE that have the silly rules regarding location.

.jacksparrow. · 30-06-2013 05:59PM

So from tomorrow can they be booked?

January · 30-06-2013 06:01PM

They can be booked from today. I've already emailed Billy Hutchinson and he replied to me.

.jacksparrow. · 30-06-2013 06:31PM

January wrote: »

They can be booked from today. I've already emailed Billy Hutchinson and he replied to me.

Thank you.

.jacksparrow. · 30-06-2013 06:47PM

Anyone know the going rate for a humanist ceremony?

January · 30-06-2013 07:01PM

PM'd you.

CarefulNow! · 30-06-2013 07:05PM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Anyone know the going rate for a humanist ceremony?

I would love to know to, January can you send info?

.jacksparrow. · 30-06-2013 07:42PM

January wrote: »

PM'd you.

I keep getting blank private messages off you?

lazygal · 30-06-2013 07:57PM

About 400-450. You'll also have to pay the 200 to register intent with the HSE, as all couples do, even if you're not availing of the HSE celebrant.

Well worth it, and still cheaper than a church.

Addle · 30-06-2013 08:37PM

pooch90 wrote: »

Addle, you can get married anywhere with HAI, it's the HSE that have the silly rules regarding location.

Is it a legal ceremony if not held in a hse approved venue (ie. indoor etc)?

lazygal · 30-06-2013 08:40PM

I was under the impression legal marriage ceremonies of any kind had to take place in a permanent building which any member of the public can have free access to before the ceremony commences. I know of one couple who married outside (I'm nearly sure it was by Tom Colton) and I was surprised as it was made clear to us what the requirements were when we registered intent. I don't know if the couple said the ceremony would take place in a function room and simply took the chance that the outside ceremony wouldn't be 'reported' or what the situation was.

Addle · 30-06-2013 08:54PM

I was under the same impression.

doriansmith · 30-06-2013 10:11PM

It's only with the HSE celebrants that you have to get married indoors. I got legally married by Brian Whiteside recently and the weather didn't play ball but we were supposed to have our full legal ceremony outside. It's definitely allowed with the Humanist celebrants.

lazygal · 30-06-2013 10:15PM

doriansmith wrote: »

It's only with the HSE celebrants that you have to get married indoors. I got legally married by Brian Whiteside recently and the weather didn't play ball but we were supposed to have our full legal ceremony outside. It's definitely allowed with the Humanist celebrants.

That's not what we were told when registering intent. We were told all legal marriage ceremonies must take place in a permanent, wheelchair accessible, publicly accessible building like a function room/church/dedicated ceremony room. This was the case for church weddings as well as non church. Outside ceremonies weren't approved for any marriage, HSE conducted or otherwise. I'm curious as to how this requirement can be flouted.

lazygal · 30-06-2013 10:33PM

The requirement that the marriage be solemnized in a fixed structure that is open to the public precludes marriages being solemnized in the open air, a tent, marquee or other temporary structure, or a private dwelling.

http://www.groireland.ie/guidelines_for_venues.htm

Found this on the gro website. It does say it applies to civil marriages, but I am almost certain we were told this is a general requirement for all marriages (eg Catholic/Spiritualist union ceremonies couldn't be conducted outside either).

Sulla Felix · 30-06-2013 10:41PM

Possibly the celebrants are doing a brief signing of the documents in the freely accessible, up to fire code etc building. There doesn't have to be ceremony to it.

lazygal · 30-06-2013 10:46PM

Sulla Felix wrote: »

Possibly the celebrants are doing a brief signing of the documents in the freely accessible, up to fire code etc building. There doesn't have to be ceremony to it.

There's the legal bit that has to be said in every marriage ceremony though, no matter what else you do. The asking for objections etc - that has to take place in the approved venue which must conform to the requirement. The OP that was married by Brian Whiteside might be able to confirm whether the outside ceremony would have been symbolic with the legal parts conducted inside, had that plan gone ahead.

Sulla Felix · 30-06-2013 10:56PM

lazygal wrote: »

There's the legal bit that has to be said in every marriage ceremony though, no matter what else you do. The asking for objections etc - that has to take place in the approved venue which must conform to the requirement. The OP that was married by Brian Whiteside might be able to confirm whether the outside ceremony would have been symbolic with the legal parts conducted inside, had that plan gone ahead.

Ok, but there's nothing in there that says that anyone has to be there? So five people can spend about five minutes dotting the i's and crossing the t's before or after the big ceremony.
I'll ask my cousin, he got married outdoors. I'm pretty sure the answer is going to come back that they went aside briefly with their witnesses and did that after the main event.

Humanists added to Register of Solemnisers

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