Student gets 250 hours community service over Tweet

IvaBigWun2 · 28-06-2013 08:19PM #1

A UK Student who tweeted that people wearing Help for Heroes shirt 'deserve to be beheaded' has been sentenced to community service

Deyka Ayan Hassan, 21, meant the comment to be a jokey criticism of the design of the t-shirt worn by supporters of the forces charity
She was arrested at home after admitting to police she had tweeted 'to be honest, if you wear a Help for Heroes t-shirt you deserve to be beheaded'
Ordered to do 250 hours of unpaid work by magistrates today, having admitted a charge of sending a malicious electronic message

Could this ever happen in Ireland?

Full article here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337635/Lee-Rigby-murder-Student-tweeted-people-wearing-Help-Heroes-shirt-deserve-beheaded-sentenced-community-service.html

seklly · 28-06-2013 08:20PM

You have to do community service in jail now?

hatrickpatrick · 28-06-2013 08:21PM

A UK Student

Stopped reading there. The UK has gone batsh!t insane in recent years when it comes to freedom of expression, I can think of several Middle Eastern regimes which would be very proud...

IvaBigWun2 · 28-06-2013 08:23PM

seklly wrote: »

You have to do community service in jail now?

Well not jailed but the result was still a bit mad.

Edit: Fixed!

Late Student · 28-06-2013 08:25PM

We need tougher laws on online defamation IMO

crazygeryy · 28-06-2013 08:27PM

he should have got the death penalty in fairness.

Late Student · 28-06-2013 08:30PM

She not he and no it was a tasteless joke it seems. But this incident in hysterical Britain aside the laws here for real defamation is weak.

sdanseo · 28-06-2013 08:30PM

crazygeryy wrote: »

he should have got the death penalty in fairness.

It was a She. Pays to read the thread before you jump in with silly comments

Locanfetzava · 28-06-2013 08:32PM

The UK and USA are bed buddies in this rising fascist "New World Order" as it has correctly been coined.

I only read today that a US teenager has the prospect of an 8 year prison sentence for a malicious blog.

It makes me sick that the leaders of both these countries are working overtime trying to arm Islamic terrorists to kill and murder in illegal wars in Syria and beyond while their own citizens are being chastised for the pettiest of offences.

http://rt.com/usa/prison-years-teenager-sarcastic-383/

Late Student · 28-06-2013 08:34PM

I would agree that is mad but they do have issues with these shootings and it's full of nutjobs over there who are armed..whos to say he was joking?

crazygeryy · 28-06-2013 08:36PM

sdeire wrote: »

It was a She. Pays to read the thread before you jump in with silly comments

oooops

silly comments in ah, never.

Festy · 28-06-2013 08:36PM

Late Student wrote: »

I would agree that is mad but they do have issues with these shootings and it's full of nutjobs over there who are armed..whos to say he was joking?

"LOL" "JK" :pac:

mathepac · 28-06-2013 08:38PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Stopped reading there. ...

+1. I suspected it would be someone trying to make a thread out of some piece of anodyne / right wing nonsense from a UK red-top.

Cody Pomeray · 28-06-2013 09:32PM

So people can be prosecuted or sued for what they say online, should we be surprised?

While a lot of online conversations are 'barstool chitchat', I don't believe we should automatically treat online statements very differently to speaking with a megaphone on Dame Street.

keith16 · 28-06-2013 09:44PM

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

So people can be prosecuted or sued for what they say online, should we be surprised?

While a lot of online conversations are 'barstool chitchat', I don't believe we should automatically treat online statements very differently to speaking with a megaphone on Dame Street.

Ah but something like twitter has the ability to reach a global audience unlike the Dame St. Guy.

A common theme with these arrests is that they are related to tweets that comment on highly sensitive topic or event that could incite hatred. If she had just randomly tweeted that without the event ever taking place, it would go unnoticed.

It really is a horrible thing to have tweeted.

corktina · 29-06-2013 07:16AM

horrible and stupid thing to tweet imo. 250 hours seems harsh, but it has a deterrent effect i guess.

Ruudi_Mentari · 29-06-2013 07:24AM

keith16 wrote: »

It really is a horrible thing to have tweeted.

yeah what a sweet tweet

he should join the morning chorus!

In hell.....

kneemos · 29-06-2013 08:40AM

keith16 wrote: »

Ah but something like twitter has the ability to reach a global audience unlike the Dame St. Guy.

A common theme with these arrests is that they are related to tweets that comment on highly sensitive topic or event that could incite hatred. If she had just randomly tweeted that without the event ever taking place, it would go unnoticed.

It really is a horrible thing to have tweeted.

It has the ability to reach a global audience but in reality a handfull is the most that will ever read it.There has to be some protection against incitement to hatred in fairness though in this case the penality was a bit extreme,at least it will keep her off the computer.

29-06-2013 09:26AM

Getting arrested for stuff like that is absolutely stupid

Ruudi_Mentari · 29-06-2013 09:34AM

bluewolf wrote: »

Getting arrested for stuff like that is absolutely stupid

- I've been to prison for less.

29-06-2013 09:34AM

Thinking about it, there should be a legal halfway house between being arrested and doing nothing, something where you are challenged on what you say, but get warned what's offensive about what you say & asked do you still stand by it. Every bit as hassling as court, but without the dire consequences.

What think ye?

SpaceTime · 29-06-2013 09:39AM

It's tasteless, offensive and stupid behaviour but i really do think they've gone way too far in the UK in terms of over reacting to Tweets and Social Media.

People say offensive, horrible things all the time. We need to be able to respond to those things with argument and debate not just by censorship and criminal sanctions.

That's really threading on very thin ice and moving towards a society that is more like a dictatorship without the freedom of speech rights that the UK is supposed to stand for and fight for.

Not only that but they gave a really dumb tweet the oxygen of massive national publicity !

Twitter is more than capable of suspending or closing an account for breech of T&Cs.

Ruudi_Mentari · 29-06-2013 09:39AM

Whatever his sentiments, hot-headed young buck and all that you know the medium and how it can be used these days so a rallying call for copycat headings is insane how's he not in the nick; m8.

Grayson · 29-06-2013 10:10AM

It's nuts. She contacted the police over threats of rape and murder, but she was found to be the criminal. i wonder if a single one of those threats was followed up on.

Deyka Ayan Hassan, 21, contacted officers after receiving hundreds of vitriolic responses to the message on May 22, including threats to rape her and kill her by burning down her home, Hendon Magistrates' Court heard.

But she was herself later arrested at home after admitting to police she had tweeted 'to be honest, if you wear a Help for Heroes t-shirt you deserve to be beheaded' as a 'joke' about the design of the item of clothing.

Amirani · 29-06-2013 10:14AM

Ruudi_Mentari wrote: »

Whatever his sentiments, hot-headed young buck and all that you know the medium and how it can be used these days so a rallying call for copycat headings is insane how's he not in the nick; m8.

Did you read the OP?

wp_rathead · 29-06-2013 10:15AM

First off, was **** and tasteless joke - no disbuting that

All that should have happened was her twitter account be blocked- no need for courts to get involved unless it was constant, continued harrasment

Interesting how people who tweeted her back going "**** you, you deserve beheaded" don't get any community service

SeanW · 29-06-2013 10:43AM

IvaBigWun2 wrote: »

A UK Student who tweeted that people wearing Help for Heroes shirt 'deserve to be beheaded' has been sentenced to community service
Deyka Ayan Hassan,

But was it actually a joke?

Grayson · 29-06-2013 10:53AM

wprathead wrote: »

First off, was **** and tasteless joke - no disbuting that

All that should have happened was her twitter account be blocked- no need for courts to get involved unless it was constant, continued harrasment

Interesting how people who tweeted her back going "**** you, you deserve beheaded" don't get any community service

At the most it should have been a fifty quid fine and maybe, just maybe a few hours of community service.

29-06-2013 10:55AM

There should be no punishment whatsoever

29-06-2013 10:57AM

She said jokingly that people wearing a certain t-shirt deserve to be beheaded.

Other people contacted her personally to threaten raping and killing her.

How is she the person being penalised?

It's not that she was prosecuted that surprises me, but the ridiculous lack of priorities that the British (and in my opinion, the Irish) judicial systems seem to have. We've heard loads of stories from both Britain and Ireland about repeat offenders committing literally hundreds of crimes and never being put away until they eventually kill someone. And yet internet bloggers and people running movie-streaming sites can get time in prison easily. It makes no sense.

Then there's also the issue of it being to do with the armed forces. Like they're a special group of humans you couldn't dare slag, while a young woman being threatened with rape is just desserts after such a slagging.

SpaceTime · 29-06-2013 10:57AM

She appears to have gotten some serious abuse on Twitter for her comments. That's how freedom of speech works! You say something, other people respond.

The state doesn't jump into the middle of it to censor everything.

Student gets 250 hours community service over Tweet

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