Independence Day.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 26-06-2013 08:01AM

Super-Rush wrote: »

I've noticed on Facebuke the last couple of weeks that we now celebrate America's independence day.

Pub's and clubs are falling over themselves with July 4th themed nights. Although a lot of them are being held on June 29th which makes it even worse. I've seen three butchers advertise 4th of July deals and two people on my friends list have invited me to bbq's to celebrate someone else's national holiday.

Will you be saluting Uncle Sam?

What's next? Thanksgiving?

Feck off.

Money money money money money.

It's a marketing angle, pre and simple. And having it on June 29th (a Saturday) makes more sense than having it on the actual day, which is a Thursday.

Will there be anything else?

ted1 · 26-06-2013 08:03AM

Chinese New Year is getting pretty big here too.

But seen as how Americian compsnies employ over 100,000 here and there's 45m claiming Irish descendants in the states and the celebrate St. Patrick's day we do have a particular bond with the states and it would make sense that we celebrate it.

playedalive · 26-06-2013 08:08AM

I'd say it's celebrated by Irish people to have something to celebrate. Like I know in Spain St Patrick's day is only celebrated to have an excuse to drink. This has only started recently.

I know Americans here who don't celebrate 4th July. Mainly because they are so used to life in Ireland. Same with Thanksgiving. It's not a national holiday here either.

kwestfan08 · 26-06-2013 08:11AM

I know I'll be celebrating July 4th this year. Nothing to do with the US's independence you understand, it just happens to be the day Jay-Z's new album comes out and I can't wait.

kneemos · 26-06-2013 08:12AM

30% of Irish people will tell you without asking about the time they were in America.

hoodwinked · 26-06-2013 08:31AM

playedalive wrote: »

I know Americans here who don't celebrate 4th July. Mainly because they are so used to life in Ireland. Same with Thanksgiving. It's not a national holiday here either.

but isn't thanksgiving the bigger of the two holidays?

surely it would make more sense for us to celebrate that instead of July 4th?

spank_inferno · 26-06-2013 08:32AM

Why not OP?

Tell us what you did on December the 6th to celebrate Ireland's independence?

In fact, why don't any of you Irish celebrate your independence day?

Mr. CooL ICE · 26-06-2013 08:34AM

iDave wrote: »

Haven't noticed it too much but there does seem to be an increase in the amount of clowns having superbowl parties cheering on some franchise in a city thousands of miles away in a sport thats just an awful basterdisation of rugby. Some people of very easily led.

Do NOT compare those two sports.

AF is a pretty rubbish sport where not much happens. But if it gives me an excuse to drink beer, eat a 7-hour slow-cooked chilli and take Monday off work, then so be it.

ted1 · 26-06-2013 08:36AM

spank_inferno wrote: »

Why not OP?

Tell us what you did on December the 6th to celebrate Ireland's independence?

In fact, why don't any of you Irish celebrate your independence day?

We declared ourselves a republic on the 24 April 1916.

But it wasn't till 48 or 49 when we actual became a republic, I think celebrating the treaty as Independence Day is not correct

spank_inferno · 26-06-2013 08:39AM

ted1 wrote: »

We declared ourselves a republic on the 24 April 1916.

But it wasn't till 48 or 49 when we actual became a republic, I think celebrating the treaty as Independence Day is not correct

Well.... either way, the Irish celebrate neither as a national holiday?

Why is that.

It's almost like Irish are embarassed to be independent, like it was an odd accident of history.

Awesomeness · 26-06-2013 08:41AM

Living as an ex-pat with friends from all over the globe I celebrate and holidays that mean anything to them.

This includes July 4 th, Bastille day , Paddys day, Canada day, Halloween , Xmas and Thanksgiving, New year and Chinese New Year.

Whats better than celebrating a holiday with friends.

Badly Drunk Boy · 26-06-2013 08:41AM

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Well they do celebrate St. Patty's Day so a bit of reciprocation wouldn't go amiss.
*snap* Backwards Man

Yeah, St. Patty's day. We should celebrate the Forth of Julie...

Leftist · 26-06-2013 08:52AM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

They celebrate our National Holiday with more respect and dignity than we do. Only right we return the favour.

ffs

you get some rubbish on here.

cupcake83 · 26-06-2013 09:04AM

hoodwinked wrote: »

but isn't thanksgiving the bigger of the two holidays?

surely it would make more sense for us to celebrate that instead of July 4th?

Thanksgiving isn't big to some of us either especially if you know the truth of real American history. I don't want to be the Debbie downer and talk down about my country but it is what it is. I'm happy to be an American for many reasons but if I go to other countries I'm not there to participate in my own countys customs and holidays. I can stay home and do that.

Duckworth_Luas · 26-06-2013 09:06AM

IvySlayer wrote: »

Have some respect :mad:, Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum kicked some alien arse on this day!

Ah, Windows 95 kicked some alien IT ass that day!

fishy fishy · 26-06-2013 09:07AM

i don't know any irish person who celebrates 4th july. however i think americans in ireland like to do a bbq and go drinking on that day.

wp_rathead · 26-06-2013 09:11AM

..wait..
..wait..
..wait..

There is gonna be a sequel to Independce Day in 2015?!?!?!?!

spank_inferno · 26-06-2013 09:12AM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Ah, Windows 95 kicked some alien IT ass that day!

Wasn't the virus uploaded via an Apple powerbook?

luckily the "U"part of "usb" turned out to be true and allowed him to connect his laptop.

castletownman · 26-06-2013 09:21AM

iDave wrote: »

Haven't noticed it too much but there does seem to be an increase in the amount of clowns having superbowl parties cheering on some franchise in a city thousands of miles away in a sport thats just an awful basterdisation of rugby. Some people of very easily led.

But to steal a term from the "Yanks", there's far less "douchebaggery" surrounding American football supporters compared to rugby

Give me the NFL any day of the week over the over-hyped, glorified holiday called the Lions Tour.

ted1 · 26-06-2013 09:37AM

castletownman wrote: »

But to steal a term from the "Yanks", there's far less "douchebaggery" surrounding American football supporters compared to rugby

Give me the NFL any day of the week over the over-hyped, glorified holiday called the Lions Tour.

uttter nonsesne, to steal a term form myself," NFL is pussyball", look at the amoutn of padding they play, look at the amoutn of time any one player is on the pitch. they've an offence team , a defence team, a kicking team, etc. they just keep switching players, the game goes on for hours as it is stop and started.

get a life , The NFL is not comaparable to the lions tour which is a touring exhibtion team that play every few years, you need to compare to the european cup.

Pherekydes · 26-06-2013 09:38AM

iDave wrote: »

Haven't noticed it too much but there does seem to be an increase in the amount of clowns having superbowl parties cheering on some franchise in a city thousands of miles away in a sport thats just an awful basterdisation of rugby. Some people of very easily led.

Aww, don't you understand the moves of all the different pieces?

Instead: "Hey we won the ball, so let's kick it back to them!"

iDave · 26-06-2013 09:40AM

Pherekydes wrote: »

Aww, don't you understand the moves of all the different pieces?

Instead: "Hey we won the ball, so let's kick it back to them!"

Off the ball tackling, complete devoid of skill.

iDave · 26-06-2013 09:42AM

castletownman wrote: »

But to steal a term from the "Yanks", there's far less "douchebaggery" surrounding American football supporters compared to rugby

Going around shouting Go Dolphins in a jersey that looks like a tent on you isnt douchebaggery?

cupcake83 · 26-06-2013 09:42AM

I'm not defending American football. As a woman I avoid Sundays, and any other day where men watch other men tackle eachother in tights. You boys have fun with that.

Pherekydes · 26-06-2013 09:50AM

ted1 wrote: »

uttter nonsesne, to steal a term form myself," NFL is pussyball", look at the amoutn of padding they play, look at the amoutn of time any one player is on the pitch. they've an offence team , a defence team, a kicking team, etc. they just keep switching players, the game goes on for hours as it is stop and started.

LOL, Rugby players wear padding. The difference is football players try to protect their more important assets. You can see Rugby evolving to this way of thinking as it become more professional. Rugby are wearing those "helmets" football players wore in the 20s and 30s. Seven decades behind Football.

When I was a kid Rugby awarded 3 pts for a try and 2 for a conversion!

Now it's 5 for a try. See the line of evolution. Again, substitutions were not allowed not so long ago. Now you can make substitutions. Next stop: situational substitution.

You have the silly situation where a kicker can take his sweet time kicking a penalty. It's starting to get ridiculous. Next stop: stopping the clock.

Dare I mention forward passes (which are supposed to be illegal)?

Pherekydes · 26-06-2013 09:53AM

iDave wrote: »

Off the ball tackling, complete devoid of skill.

As I said, you don't understand the game. It's not off-the-ball tackling, it's blocking.

migozarad · 26-06-2013 09:58AM

spank_inferno wrote: »

Why not OP?

Tell us what you did on December the 6th to celebrate Ireland's independence?

In fact, why don't any of you Irish celebrate your independence day?

When the 6 counties are re-incorporated into the national territory (circa 2040 the way things are progressing at present),then perhaps,one would consider celebrating an independence day.The Treaty and its immediate upshot the Civil War are certainly not worthy of celebration

Sofiztikated · 26-06-2013 12:22PM

iDave wrote: »

Haven't noticed it too much but there does seem to be an increase in the amount of clowns having superbowl parties cheering on some franchise in a city thousands of miles away in a sport thats just an awful basterdisation of rugby. Some people of very easily led.

As opposed to the 100's of thousand of € spent following a team that is part of a franchise, in a league that is how many 100's of miles away?

Football (soccer) has its set pieces.
Football (American) has its set pieces.
Rugby has its set pieces.
Gaelic has its set pieces.

Have you seen the size, and pace of some of the American Football players? Have you seen the hits that they take?

And what's wrong with having a group of friends over, that share the same interests, to drink beer, have a laugh, and watch (insert whatever sport/soap/movie/play/whatever) together?

old hippy · 26-06-2013 12:27PM

tolosenc wrote: »

All part of this country's bizarre, and often nauseating, idolisation of the US.

Nothing wrong with celebrating July 4th. Or welcoming US visitors.

It's when we bent over backwards to facilitate the military use Shannon Airport I have a problem with.

My local in London celebrates the 4th (owner is from Detroit). He also puts a do on for St Patrick's, Bastille Day, St George, Halloween, Guy Fawkes etc etc. Nothing like a bit of variety.

old hippy · 26-06-2013 12:32PM

iDave wrote: »

Haven't noticed it too much but there does seem to be an increase in the amount of clowns having superbowl parties cheering on some franchise in a city thousands of miles away in a sport thats just an awful basterdisation of rugby. Some people of very easily led.

What's wrong with it? Plenty of sports and teams have global followings.

Independence Day.

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