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Independence Day.

  • 26-06-2013 1:21am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭


    I've noticed on Facebuke the last couple of weeks that we now celebrate America's independence day.

    Pub's and clubs are falling over themselves with July 4th themed nights. Although a lot of them are being held on June 29th which makes it even worse. I've seen three butchers advertise 4th of July deals and two people on my friends list have invited me to bbq's to celebrate someone else's national holiday.

    Will you be saluting Uncle Sam?

    What's next? Thanksgiving?

    Feck off.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Another opportunity for the sycophants on Bono Hill to break out their miniature flags in the name of tourism :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,557 ✭✭✭KeithM89


    Great film though...








    ...actually no, no it wasnt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    They celebrate our National Holiday with more respect and dignity than we do. Only right we return the favour. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    Well they do celebrate St. Patty's Day so a bit of reciprocation wouldn't go amiss.
    *snap* Backwards Man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    Its mainly Irish people who do the patties day thing and the plastics just join in.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    I blame Bono


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    $$$$ ...I mean €€€€€€


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    All part of this country's bizarre, and often nauseating, idolisation of the US.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Scylla wrote: »
    Great film though...








    ...actually no, no it wasnt.

    Jeff Goldblum renders your opinion invalid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭policarp


    Any excuse for a piss up. . . :P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    Well, if a big proportion of Americans celebrate St Patrick's Day I can't see why you can't celebrate the 4th of July. No need for a BBQ, roasted S'mores, CornOnTheCob, Baseball and Fireworks. Do it the Irish way - a great big piss up! Christ, I can't wait to get home for Puck :D. Most people here are in bed by 11PM. The Founding Fathers would be proud!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭jimpump


    They sent the brits home, ill celebrate any day where that happens


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    jimpump wrote: »
    They sent the brits home, ill celebrate any day where that happens
    They only sent the "Brits" further north. Then invaded shortly afterwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    Have some respect :mad:, Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum kicked some alien arse on this day!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭just_be_nice


    Just go to the BBQ's; there's a sale on at the buthchers! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Festy


    policarp wrote: »
    Any excuse for a piss up. . . :P

    Everyday is a piss up in this country.

    3c7v8G3.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    jimpump wrote: »
    They sent the brits home, ill celebrate any day where that happens

    As if anyone was better off after sending the British home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Super-Rush wrote: »
    Will you be saluting Uncle Sam?

    Personally no, but since we built the place, wrote their national anthem and found refuge there for generations. Then ya, it kinda makes sense in a way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭massdebater




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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,902 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    tolosenc wrote: »
    All part of this country's bizarre, and often nauseating, idolisation of the US.

    My son is a US citizen. I don't in any way idolise the US.

    Can I celebrate independence day with him?

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Wouldn't it be great if we could celebrate our own independence on a national scale? We must be the only country on the planet where it's not acknowledged by all its citizens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Wouldn't it be great if we could celebrate our own independence on a national scale? We must be the only country on the planet where it's not acknowledged by all its citizens.

    We're independent? What about the IMF?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Brian? wrote: »
    My son is a US citizen. I don't in any way idolise the US.

    Can I celebrate independence day with him?

    No, you're not allowed to do anything. You're not even allowed to make contact with him.

    Pubs are doing it on the 29th, because, well, because it's the Saturday before. Doing it after the fact must be a bit ... wrong, I suppose. Jaysis, pubs do things to get people in, they're wrong, they don't do anything, they're wrong.

    Maybe the butchers are appealing to the Americans that are living here? Maybe they're trying to drum up a bit of business?

    You do know you don't HAVE to do anything, right? I mean, if you don't, it's not like the NSA will inform the CIA and the FBI, and SWAT will burst in your windows and make you MIA. (DEGHJKLNOPQRUVXYZ just to get the rest of the alphabet.)

    Am I going to celebrate it? Fúck no. But if someone wants to, then go right on ahead. (Oh, and what we call barbeque in this country, isn't. It's grilling.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    Haven't noticed it too much but there does seem to be an increase in the amount of clowns having superbowl parties cheering on some franchise in a city thousands of miles away in a sport thats just an awful basterdisation of rugby. Some people of very easily led.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭cupcake83


    I'm an American and I find it strange too. I don't even do anything on the 4th of July as an American myself so cheers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Kold wrote: »
    We're independent? What about the IMF?

    You're giving me a headache.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Looking forward to the sequel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Super-Rush wrote: »
    I've noticed on Facebuke the last couple of weeks that we now celebrate America's independence day.
    tolosenc wrote: »
    All part of this country's bizarre, and often nauseating, idolisation of the US.

    How are your counties doing in the Championship?

    Are you going to the 'Hop' on Friday night at Farmer Murphy's barn, policed by the PP.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Wouldn't it be great if we could celebrate our own independence on a national scale?

    OMG Irish nationalism!? A sense of belonging to a country and a sense of national pride in making it work for it's citizenry? How could you propose such a heinous concept?
    We must be the only country on the planet where it's not acknowledged by all its citizens.

    There was a deliberate and concerted effort by those in control of the narrative to stigmatize all things remotely Irish Nationalist in the early 70's. This was done because they thought everyone would run off and join the PIRA and start fighting the British (they were afraid for their own establishment privileges being threatened too imo).

    A lot of people bought into the anti-Nationalist narrative and revisionism and the attempted stigmatizing of all things Irish Nationalist continues to this day*. A lot of us didn't buy into it though and there are plenty more of a nationalist persuasion who stay out of the debates but are very much that way inclined.

    I was listening to a radio show yesterday where the question of loyalty to our nation and people was brought up and it was pondered if the anti-Nationalist narrative has contributed to a '**** Ireland' attitude and how that might have played its part in the economic meltdown. After listening to those cunts from Anglo I think the 'fuck Ireland' concept and the damage it can do has some validity.


    * 3....2....1....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,763 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Super-Rush wrote: »
    I've noticed on Facebuke the last couple of weeks that we now celebrate America's independence day.

    Pub's and clubs are falling over themselves with July 4th themed nights. Although a lot of them are being held on June 29th which makes it even worse. I've seen three butchers advertise 4th of July deals and two people on my friends list have invited me to bbq's to celebrate someone else's national holiday.

    Will you be saluting Uncle Sam?

    What's next? Thanksgiving?

    Feck off.

    Money money money money money.

    It's a marketing angle, pre and simple. And having it on June 29th (a Saturday) makes more sense than having it on the actual day, which is a Thursday.

    Will there be anything else?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,903 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Chinese New Year is getting pretty big here too.

    But seen as how Americian compsnies employ over 100,000 here and there's 45m claiming Irish descendants in the states and the celebrate St. Patrick's day we do have a particular bond with the states and it would make sense that we celebrate it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 750 ✭✭✭playedalive


    I'd say it's celebrated by Irish people to have something to celebrate. Like I know in Spain St Patrick's day is only celebrated to have an excuse to drink. This has only started recently.

    I know Americans here who don't celebrate 4th July. Mainly because they are so used to life in Ireland. Same with Thanksgiving. It's not a national holiday here either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭kwestfan08


    I know I'll be celebrating July 4th this year. Nothing to do with the US's independence you understand, it just happens to be the day Jay-Z's new album comes out and I can't wait.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    30% of Irish people will tell you without asking about the time they were in America.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭hoodwinked



    I know Americans here who don't celebrate 4th July. Mainly because they are so used to life in Ireland. Same with Thanksgiving. It's not a national holiday here either.

    but isn't thanksgiving the bigger of the two holidays?

    surely it would make more sense for us to celebrate that instead of July 4th?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭spank_inferno


    Why not OP?

    Tell us what you did on December the 6th to celebrate Ireland's independence?

    In fact, why don't any of you Irish celebrate your independence day?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,709 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    iDave wrote: »
    Haven't noticed it too much but there does seem to be an increase in the amount of clowns having superbowl parties cheering on some franchise in a city thousands of miles away in a sport thats just an awful basterdisation of rugby. Some people of very easily led.

    Do NOT compare those two sports.

    AF is a pretty rubbish sport where not much happens. But if it gives me an excuse to drink beer, eat a 7-hour slow-cooked chilli and take Monday off work, then so be it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,903 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Why not OP?

    Tell us what you did on December the 6th to celebrate Ireland's independence?

    In fact, why don't any of you Irish celebrate your independence day?
    We declared ourselves a republic on the 24 April 1916.

    But it wasn't till 48 or 49 when we actual became a republic, I think celebrating the treaty as Independence Day is not correct


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭spank_inferno


    ted1 wrote: »
    We declared ourselves a republic on the 24 April 1916.

    But it wasn't till 48 or 49 when we actual became a republic, I think celebrating the treaty as Independence Day is not correct

    Well.... either way, the Irish celebrate neither as a national holiday?

    Why is that.

    It's almost like Irish are embarassed to be independent, like it was an odd accident of history.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭Awesomeness


    Living as an ex-pat with friends from all over the globe I celebrate and holidays that mean anything to them.

    This includes July 4 th, Bastille day , Paddys day, Canada day, Halloween , Xmas and Thanksgiving, New year and Chinese New Year.

    Whats better than celebrating a holiday with friends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,808 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Jimoslimos wrote: »
    Well they do celebrate St. Patty's Day so a bit of reciprocation wouldn't go amiss.
    *snap* Backwards Man

    Yeah, St. Patty's day. We should celebrate the Forth of Julie...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    They celebrate our National Holiday with more respect and dignity than we do. Only right we return the favour. :)

    ffs :D you get some rubbish on here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭cupcake83


    hoodwinked wrote: »
    but isn't thanksgiving the bigger of the two holidays?

    surely it would make more sense for us to celebrate that instead of July 4th?

    Thanksgiving isn't big to some of us either especially if you know the truth of real American history. I don't want to be the Debbie downer and talk down about my country but it is what it is. I'm happy to be an American for many reasons but if I go to other countries I'm not there to participate in my own countys customs and holidays. I can stay home and do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Have some respect :mad:, Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum kicked some alien arse on this day!
    Ah, Windows 95 kicked some alien IT ass that day!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    i don't know any irish person who celebrates 4th july. however i think americans in ireland like to do a bbq and go drinking on that day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    ..wait..
    ..wait..
    ..wait..

    There is gonna be a sequel to Independce Day in 2015?!?!?!?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭spank_inferno


    Ah, Windows 95 kicked some alien IT ass that day!

    Wasn't the virus uploaded via an Apple powerbook?

    luckily the "U"part of "usb" turned out to be true and allowed him to connect his laptop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,693 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    iDave wrote: »
    Haven't noticed it too much but there does seem to be an increase in the amount of clowns having superbowl parties cheering on some franchise in a city thousands of miles away in a sport thats just an awful basterdisation of rugby. Some people of very easily led.

    But to steal a term from the "Yanks", there's far less "douchebaggery" surrounding American football supporters compared to rugby :D

    Give me the NFL any day of the week over the over-hyped, glorified holiday called the Lions Tour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,903 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    But to steal a term from the "Yanks", there's far less "douchebaggery" surrounding American football supporters compared to rugby :D

    Give me the NFL any day of the week over the over-hyped, glorified holiday called the Lions Tour.

    uttter nonsesne, to steal a term form myself," NFL is pussyball", look at the amoutn of padding they play, look at the amoutn of time any one player is on the pitch. they've an offence team , a defence team, a kicking team, etc. they just keep switching players, the game goes on for hours as it is stop and started.

    get a life , The NFL is not comaparable to the lions tour which is a touring exhibtion team that play every few years, you need to compare to the european cup.


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