Do good looking people have it easier in life?

Ruudi_Mentari · 21-06-2013 08:21PM

boobar wrote: »

I'll say one thing about good looking people

We're not well liked.

oh; tell me about it.

My brother tried to suck an eye out of my head!

kjl · 21-06-2013 08:32PM

I don't think we do.

I am a 6f5 handsome person. I can say in all honesty in my whole life there has only been one girl who I fancied who I didn't end up at least kissing.

Anyway, I am not just a pretty face, I am also quite intelligent. I graduated first in my college degree with a first class honours. I am a software developer by trade and I have been passionate about it since the Java programming language was released.

I was applying for a job once at a very well known company which I was very well suited for. The interview process consisted of 10 different stages. There were multiple phone interviews and online competency tests as well as four face to face interviews with some of the developers you will be working with.

So I am doing really well in the interview process. Over the phone I am clearly demonstrating my knowledge and in the competency test I got 98% which they said was the highest score. So I am called in to the last day which is the 4 interviews with the developers. I have never been so prepared for an interview in my life. These interview session are whiteboard sessions where the developer gives you a thought problem and you write the programming answer on the whiteboard. As I said I have been preparing for this kind of interview so when I went in and they presented the problems to me, they were problems I knew the answers to.

Here is where I was discriminated against. One of the interviewers had it out for me from the minute I sat down. He was a geeky poindexter type nerdy looking guy. He was rude to me the minute I sat down. He would ask me a question and if it seemed like it was something I knew he would immediately dismiss me, if it was something I seemed week on he would try to pressure an answer out of me then when I answered it correctly he would make it seem like he gave me the answer. So we move onto the question he gave me, it was about nodes and the quickest way to see if nodes are connected to each other. I had seen the problem before. I played it cool like I was thinking about the answer for a while, then I gave the solution. He then asked me to modify it to determine it it had a tail, which I hadn't seen before but I know I answered it correctly.

In order to get the job all 4 interviewers had to say yes, and you guessed it 3 out of 4 said yes. When I asked where did I go wrong, I was told that I was too prepared, so after 10 different stages of a very grueling interview process plus I had a very good CV I was not given the job because I was too prepared.

I know for a fact that the guy was discriminating against me because I was good looking. There is a certain notion that good looking people don't work for anything and that they are handed everything they get. This is not the case for me.

Anyway, the end of the story is that I interview for another position in a very bigger company with 10k more per year and I got the job. But I alway regret not doing anything about that circumstance.

Boofle · 21-06-2013 08:37PM

kjl wrote: »

I don't think we do.

I am a 6f5 handsome person. I can say in all honesty in my whole life there has only been one girl who I fancied who I didn't end up at least kissing.

Anyway, I am not just a pretty face, I am also quite intelligent. I graduated first in my college degree with a first class honours. I am a software developer by trade and I have been passionate about it since the Java programming language was released.

I was applying for a job once at a very well known company which I was very well suited for. The interview process consisted of 10 different stages. There were multiple phone interviews and online competency tests as well as four face to face interviews with some of the developers you will be working with.

So I am doing really well in the interview process. Over the phone I am clearly demonstrating my knowledge and in the competency test I got 98% which they said was the highest score. So I am called in to the last day which is the 4 interviews with the developers. I have never been so prepared for an interview in my life. These interview session are whiteboard sessions where the developer gives you a thought problem and you write the programming answer on the whiteboard. As I said I have been preparing for this kind of interview so when I went in and they presented the problems to me, they were problems I knew the answers to.

Here is where I was discriminated against. One of the interviewers had it out for me from the minute I sat down. He was a geeky poindexter type nerdy looking guy. He was rude to me the minute I sat down. He would ask me a question and if it seemed like it was something I knew he would immediately dismiss me, if it was something I seemed week on he would try to pressure an answer out of me then when I answered it correctly he would make it seem like he gave me the answer. So we move onto the question he gave me, it was about nodes and the quickest way to see if nodes are connected to each other. I had seen the problem before. I played it cool like I was thinking about the answer for a while, then I gave the solution. He then asked me to modify it to determine it it had a tail, which I hadn't seen before but I know I answered it correctly.

In order to get the job all 4 interviewers had to say yes, and you guessed it 3 out of 4 said yes. When I asked where did I go wrong, I was told that I was too prepared, so after 10 different stages of a very grueling interview process plus I had a very good CV I was not given the job because I was too prepared.

I know for a fact that the guy was discriminating against me because I was good looking. There is a certain notion that good looking people don't work for anything and that they are handed everything they get. This is not the case for me.

Anyway, the end of the story is that I interview for another position in a very bigger company with 10k more per year and I got the job. But I alway regret not doing anything about that circumstance.

I think this is very true. Being good looking obviously has its advantages but also can be a hindrance if people think you just glide through life being handed everything just because you have pretty face.

Czarcasm · 21-06-2013 09:13PM

Boofle wrote: »

I think this is very true. Being good looking obviously has its advantages but also can be a hindrance if people think you just glide through life being handed everything just because you have pretty face.

I think too it lends itself as kjl (6ft5?? Tall bastard, I'd break my neck looking up at you! Hate that! :pac:) said to not being taken seriously or other people feeling intimidated by a person they consider attractive.

For example, recently I was asked as a favor to a friend to come in on a project which is basically setting up a community IT hub. There's another guy there fresh out of doing some IT course in college and he's the stereotypical "nerdy IT guy" type (I haven't talked to him much because the guy just doesn't talk, not to mention he hasn't hands to wipe his àrse!).

Basically the people there don't have a clue and don't care about HOW the stuff works, they just want it to work, and they've been fluffing and flapping about for the last month with nerdy IT guy having done fannyadams with the deadline for opening this Sunday.

I overheard one of the project co-ordinators earlier today while I was upstairs and they were downstairs say to nerdy IT guy "does he know what he's doing?", to which I can only assume nerdy IT guy shrugged his shoulders, tbh I've seen tortoises with more motivation.

But the idea that they assume I don't know what I'm doing, because THEY don't know what I'm doing, that really pìssed me off, because while they're all downstairs nattering over cups of tea and smokes, I'm upstairs up to my eyeballs in switches, routers and network cables, while at the same time trying to install software on the computers while that little shìt is downstairs busy licking àrse! :mad:

I only found out yesterday they don't even have an ISP sorted and I could've got them a sponsored ISP deal that they wouldn't have to pay a cent for it, but then I found out today the project co-ordinator went with EIRCOM for €80 a month, on the advice of, yes, you guessed it - nerdy looking IT guy, who hasn't a bull's notion! :mad:

kowloon · 21-06-2013 09:14PM

I wonder if there's any truth to people saying better looking people tend to be under less pressure to develop a friendly personality. I just don't know or can't think of enough examples to say one thing or another.

I did have a friend years ago in school who was good looking but had no idea so he wasn't confident or cocky. Girls were like cats in heat around him. I had another friend who wasn't particularly tall but was just pure charm, I've never seen him not get along with anyone who didn't deserve it, of either gender.

That said, I knew a guy who got by purely on his looks and height, got away with some very out of order behaviour and women repeatedly brushed it aside. He was useful in a bar though, when the place was busy he could often get served quickly.

Not seeing much of a pattern, but I expect good looking people are treated a little better by people attracted to them and people are willing to put up with their BS to a greater degree. But that all goes out the window when someone is jealous or jumps to conclusions.

I do think people get pegged differently though when all other things are equal. Take a guy on a motorcycle: if he's attractive he becomes Mr. sexy motorcyclist, if he's a bit short and not so easy on the eye he becomes even more ridiculed as the vain ugly gob****e who thinks he looks great on a bike. The same situation means different things depending on the person, like some sort of multiplier.

kowloon · 21-06-2013 09:24PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

I only found out yesterday they don't even have an ISP sorted and I could've got them a sponsored ISP deal that they wouldn't have to pay a cent for it, but then I found out today the project co-ordinator went with EIRCOM for €80 a month, on the advice of, yes, you guessed it - nerdy looking IT guy, who hasn't a bull's notion! :mad:

It all sounds like tech BS to them, so they just go with expectations. I had a temp job in an IT dept. once and they used to play games to see who could get away with the most outrageous explanation of a problem. Heard things like 'crystallisation of the hard drive membrane' (along those lines). As long as they fit the stereotype people who just glazed over when it came to IT just accepted what they were told. I doubt they'd be so trusting of a male model in a suit.

Czarcasm · 21-06-2013 09:47PM

kowloon wrote: »

It all sounds like tech BS to them, so they just go with expectations. I had a temp job in an IT dept. once and they used to play games to see who could get away with the most outrageous explanation of a problem. Heard things like 'crystallisation of the hard drive membrane' (along those lines). As long as they fit the stereotype people who just glazed over when it came to IT just accepted what they were told. I doubt they'd be so trusting of a male model in a suit.

Burst out laughing reading that bit!

But yeah, definitely perception has a lot to do with it. Like I met the mayor Saturday, turned up on the Monday and they were all enthusiastic, but as the week went on I found myself increasingly being alienated because I wasn't interested in flapping about waiting for the grant money to roll in.

I wear Penneys finest in terms of a white shirt, black pants and tie, nerdy IT guy wears expensive branded jeans and tee shirts, doesn't bother to brush his hair, he really is the stereotypical IT nerd, lacking any sort of social skills, etc, in fact I think it's just a pet project for all of them in there tbh!

They're having a meeting Thursday night and I'm going to have a few words about pulling up socks. I want it to work, but something tells me they'd be glad to see the back of me if I pulled out! :pac:

Boofle · 22-06-2013 01:51AM

Czarcasm wrote: »

Burst out laughing reading that bit!

But yeah, definitely perception has a lot to do with it. Like I met the mayor Saturday, turned up on the Monday and they were all enthusiastic, but as the week went on I found myself increasingly being alienated because I wasn't interested in flapping about waiting for the grant money to roll in.

I wear Penneys finest in terms of a white shirt, black pants and tie, nerdy IT guy wears expensive branded jeans and tee shirts, doesn't bother to brush his hair, he really is the stereotypical IT nerd, lacking any sort of social skills, etc, in fact I think it's just a pet project for all of them in there tbh!

They're having a meeting Thursday night and I'm going to have a few words about pulling up socks. I want it to work, but something tells me they'd be glad to see the back of me if I pulled out! :pac:

Czarcasm 'rock' your pe
neys white shirt
with pride!

Hammar · 22-06-2013 03:18AM

kjl wrote: »

I don't think we do.

I am a 6f5 handsome person. I can say in all honesty in my whole life there has only been one girl who I fancied who I didn't end up at least kissing.

Anyway, I am not just a pretty face, I am also quite intelligent. I graduated first in my college degree with a first class honours. I am a software developer by trade and I have been passionate about it since the Java programming language was released.

I was applying for a job once at a very well known company which I was very well suited for. The interview process consisted of 10 different stages. There were multiple phone interviews and online competency tests as well as four face to face interviews with some of the developers you will be working with.

So I am doing really well in the interview process. Over the phone I am clearly demonstrating my knowledge and in the competency test I got 98% which they said was the highest score. So I am called in to the last day which is the 4 interviews with the developers. I have never been so prepared for an interview in my life. These interview session are whiteboard sessions where the developer gives you a thought problem and you write the programming answer on the whiteboard. As I said I have been preparing for this kind of interview so when I went in and they presented the problems to me, they were problems I knew the answers to.

Here is where I was discriminated against. One of the interviewers had it out for me from the minute I sat down. He was a geeky poindexter type nerdy looking guy. He was rude to me the minute I sat down. He would ask me a question and if it seemed like it was something I knew he would immediately dismiss me, if it was something I seemed week on he would try to pressure an answer out of me then when I answered it correctly he would make it seem like he gave me the answer. So we move onto the question he gave me, it was about nodes and the quickest way to see if nodes are connected to each other. I had seen the problem before. I played it cool like I was thinking about the answer for a while, then I gave the solution. He then asked me to modify it to determine it it had a tail, which I hadn't seen before but I know I answered it correctly.

In order to get the job all 4 interviewers had to say yes, and you guessed it 3 out of 4 said yes. When I asked where did I go wrong, I was told that I was too prepared, so after 10 different stages of a very grueling interview process plus I had a very good CV I was not given the job because I was too prepared.

I know for a fact that the guy was discriminating against me because I was good looking. There is a certain notion that good looking people don't work for anything and that they are handed everything they get. This is not the case for me.

Anyway, the end of the story is that I interview for another position in a very bigger company with 10k more per year and I got the job. But I alway regret not doing anything about that circumstance.

Dear diary.....

Lucena · 22-06-2013 10:41AM

kjl wrote: »

I don't think we do.

I am a 6f5 handsome person. I can say in all honesty in my whole life there has only been one girl who I fancied who I didn't end up at least kissing.

Anyway, I am not just a pretty face, I am also quite intelligent. I graduated first in my college degree with a first class honours. I am a software developer by trade and I have been passionate about it since the Java programming language was released.

I was applying for a job once at a very well known company which I was very well suited for. The interview process consisted of 10 different stages. There were multiple phone interviews and online competency tests as well as four face to face interviews with some of the developers you will be working with.

So I am doing really well in the interview process. Over the phone I am clearly demonstrating my knowledge and in the competency test I got 98% which they said was the highest score. So I am called in to the last day which is the 4 interviews with the developers. I have never been so prepared for an interview in my life. These interview session are whiteboard sessions where the developer gives you a thought problem and you write the programming answer on the whiteboard. As I said I have been preparing for this kind of interview so when I went in and they presented the problems to me, they were problems I knew the answers to.

Here is where I was discriminated against. One of the interviewers had it out for me from the minute I sat down. He was a geeky poindexter type nerdy looking guy. He was rude to me the minute I sat down. He would ask me a question and if it seemed like it was something I knew he would immediately dismiss me, if it was something I seemed week on he would try to pressure an answer out of me then when I answered it correctly he would make it seem like he gave me the answer. So we move onto the question he gave me, it was about nodes and the quickest way to see if nodes are connected to each other. I had seen the problem before. I played it cool like I was thinking about the answer for a while, then I gave the solution. He then asked me to modify it to determine it it had a tail, which I hadn't seen before but I know I answered it correctly.

In order to get the job all 4 interviewers had to say yes, and you guessed it 3 out of 4 said yes. When I asked where did I go wrong, I was told that I was too prepared, so after 10 different stages of a very grueling interview process plus I had a very good CV I was not given the job because I was too prepared.

I know for a fact that the guy was discriminating against me because I was good looking. There is a certain notion that good looking people don't work for anything and that they are handed everything they get. This is not the case for me.

Anyway, the end of the story is that I interview for another position in a very bigger company with 10k more per year and I got the job. But I alway regret not doing anything about that circumstance.

Basically you've got off with every woman you've fancied (except one) Vs not getting that one job??

I could live with that.

Nemeses · 22-06-2013 10:47AM

This thread reeks of vanity..

Zen65 · 22-06-2013 11:21AM

Lucena wrote: »

Possibly people that are too good looking are harder to take seriously?

There is truth in this. I know a stunningly attractive girl who suffers from depression. People tend to be unsympathetic towards her because they perceive she has so much going for her, which of course, makes little or no difference to a person with depression.

In most other aspects of life, being attractive will help you along. Many attractive people are not aware of this, simply because they have had this experience for so long they take it as being normal.

Look up the story of Katie Piper to see how losing your good looks suddenly can have such devastating consequences. It's a real feel-good story (well, after the initial part which is just awful) not only because after some years of pioneering surgery Katie has regained her beauty, but also because the experience touched her in a way that has probably allowed her to become beautiful in a much deeper way also, in terms of how she sees and cares about others.

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caustic 1 · 22-06-2013 12:12PM

Who determines who is good looking or not? My idea of good looking varies from friends, they think omg no way and I think hell yeah.

Boofle · 22-06-2013 12:17PM

caustic 1 wrote: »

Who determines who is good looking or not? My idea of good looking varies from friends, they think omg no way and I think hell yeah.

I think there are certain people who have classic good looks; ie symmetrical facial features etc. But I would agree with you that beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder and you can find someone very attractive while others don't.

Mariasofia · 22-06-2013 12:20PM

caustic 1 wrote: »

Who determines who is good looking or not? My idea of good looking varies from friends, they think omg no way and I think hell yeah.

I know what you mean and some people can look great to you one day and not the next. Getting ready to go out last night I looked in the mirror and thought hell yeah.......this morning I just thought oh hell!

Boofle · 22-06-2013 12:22PM

Mariasofia wrote: »

I know what you mean and some people can look great to you one day and not the next. Getting ready to go out last night I looked in the mirror and thought hell yeah.......this morning I just thought oh hell!

Do good looking people have it easier in life?

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