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EU Trying to Regulate E-cigs as Medical Devices

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  • #62
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    dj jarvis wrote: »

    hands down , vapeing is safer than smoking

    and not smoking is better than both.


  • #63
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    MadsL wrote: »
    Wow...just wow.

    vape dealers offering an affordable alternative, that doesn't involve €25 a pop for gum, nor €200-300 for Champix is = to scum.

    Wow.

    So you think it's perfectly fine that I was asked did I want a smoke, wow just fcuking wow!


  • #64
    Ando's Saggy Bottom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭Ando's Saggy Bottom


    Threads about smoking are the new threads about travellers.


  • #65
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    and not smoking is better than both.

    Well duh.

    You have managed to quit, and you now want to ban devices that allow others to quit.

    Quite a bit of self-righteousness there.


  • #66
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    So you think it's perfectly fine that I was asked did I want a smoke, wow just fcuking wow!

    Asked. Not forced. I'm sure you have walked past a newsagent since you quit.

    Has no smoker offered you a fag recently? Did you punch them?


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  • #67
    Esoteric_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,255 ✭✭✭✭Esoteric_


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    This is why I
    have the rage, it's was one of the biggest struggles i've ever had
    getting off Nicotine and twice in the last few weeks i've been walking
    through shopping centres and have been asked if i'd like to try a smoke,
    it has me so so annoyed and just in case you think i'm just saying that
    I started a rage thread a few days ago....
    http://m.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056975047
    These vape dealers are scum trying to get everyone addicted. They need
    to be regulated and shut down. eCigs have there place but yet again the
    Irish have taken it to the Max.

    Actually, they're people in sh!t jobs, on sh!t wages, in sh!t working conditions, just trying to get by, same as everyone else. Do you think I ask people to try an e cig because I want to? I do it because it pays my damn rent.


  • #68
    dj jarvis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    and not smoking is better than both.

    your just a wind up merchant - im out - and you called people who vape sad ?

    look in the mirror buddy


  • #69
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    MadsL wrote: »
    W

    You have managed to quit, and you now want to ban devices that allow others to quit.

    Your some kid at twisting words, You've completely missed every point and you actually think it's a good thing that ex-smokers and non smokers are being asked to try some nicotine while out shopping.

    I'm going to try and an experiment, black is better than white?


  • #70
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    dj jarvis wrote: »
    your just a wind up merchant - im out - and you called people who vape sad ?

    look in the mirror buddy

    You just don't get it, what will it take another heart attack, sweet jesus what does it take for the message smoking is bad to sink through to you.


  • #71
    illuminated
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭illuminated


    The eu are a joke,and i totally disagree why would we ban something that could potentially help People to stop Smoking and even thought they arent technically banning it who will really bother going through any effort to avail of one when ist easier to walk into a shop and pick up a pack of John Player.Also the new generic pacaking idea is a joke, and why are thry trying to ban Menthol tobacco i havent seen Menthol tobacco since i was in spain but in all Fairness i probarbly would be addicted if Menthol was readily available in ireland, does anyone know where i can Menthol tobacco on that note


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  • #72
    Anyone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    This is why I have the rage, it's was one of the biggest struggles i've ever had getting off Nicotine and twice in the last few weeks i've been walking through shopping centres and have been asked if i'd like to try a smoke, it has me so so annoyed and just in case you think i'm just saying that I started a rage thread a few days ago.... http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056975047 These vape dealers are scum trying to get everyone addicted. They need to be regulated and shut down. eCigs have there place but yet again the Irish have taken it to the Max.

    Did you go cold turkey or did you use anything to help you quit? Your anger isnt normal. I would assume anybody who quit cigarettes would welcome any product that enabled smokers to quit.

    You dont appear rational about the topic at all.


  • #73
    Esoteric_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,255 ✭✭✭✭Esoteric_


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Your some
    kid at twisting words, You've completely missed every point and you
    actually think it's a good thing that ex-smokers and non smokers are
    being asked to try some nicotine while out shopping.

    I'm going to try and an experiment, black is better than white?

    How about having some will power and saying no, then going about your day? I'm always being offered illicit drugs by friends, doesn't mean I'm stupid enough to say yes, ffs.


  • #74
    DaveDaRave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭DaveDaRave


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    You just don't get it, what will it take another heart attack, sweet jesus what does it take for the message smoking is bad to sink through to you.

    you must be great at parties


  • #75
    Anyone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    You just don't get it, what will it take another heart attack, sweet jesus what does it take for the message smoking is bad to sink through to you.

    Who claimed smoking wasnt bad for you?


  • #76
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Anyone wrote: »
    Did you go cold turkey or did you use anything to help you quit? Your anger isnt normal. I would assume anybody who quit cigarettes would welcome any product that enabled smokers to quit.

    You dont appear rational about the topic at all.

    Tried to quit for years, champix and the encouragement of other boardie's help me quit. I'm not rational because i've been asked to try nicotine while out shopping by Vape sales people. I also meet teenagers every day and there now vape addicts. Vapeing is the new smoking, it's highly addictive and un-regulated. They should be in pharmacy's up beside the nicorette not in every shop you walk into.


  • #77
    DaveDaRave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭DaveDaRave


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Tried to quit for years, champix and the encouragement of other boardie's help me quit. I'm not rational because i've been asked to try nicotine while out shopping by Vape sales people. I also meet teenagers every day and there now vape addicts. Vapeing is the new smoking, it's highly addictive and un-regulated. They should be in pharmacy's up beside the nicorette not in every shop you walk into.

    the new, healthier smoking. Im ok with this. It will reduce the amount of people with cancer. And youre opposed to this. Ok.

    Ex-smokers are so annoying


  • #78
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Esoteric_ wrote: »
    How about having some will power and saying no, then going about your day?.

    You sell the fecking things, it's not ok to push nicotine on people who haven't asked or enquired. People who do that are scum I hope you don't employ those sales tactics.


  • #79
    Anyone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Tried to quit for years, champix and the encouragement of other boardie's help me quit. I'm not rational because i've been asked to try nicotine while out shopping by Vape sales people. I also meet teenagers every day and there now vape addicts. Vapeing is the new smoking, it's highly addictive and un-regulated. They should be in pharmacy's up beside the nicorette not in every shop you walk into.

    If you were an alcoholic and you went into a restaurant and the waiter asked would you like some wine, and you flipped out in rage, would you consider that normal?


  • #80
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    DaveDaRave wrote: »
    the new, healthier smoking.

    I can feel an Alanis Morissette tune coming on.

    Anyway it's nearly beer o'clock time to kill the liver.


  • #81
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Tried to quit for years, champix and the encouragement of other boardie's help me quit. I'm not rational because i've been asked to try nicotine while out shopping by Vape sales people. I also meet teenagers every day and there now vape addicts. Vapeing is the new smoking, it's highly addictive and un-regulated. They should be in pharmacy's up beside the nicorette not in every shop you walk into.

    Couple of questions.

    1. What restrictions will pharmacist place on them?
    2. Teenagers. Already addressed this - place an age limit on them.

    Finally, I had a friend spending literally hundreds a week on nicotine gum. Is that what you propose?

    Are you off Champix? I remember the rage caused by it, please try and calm down, and avoid attacking people because of it. If you are off the cigs, try and reduce the Champix dose.


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  • #82
    LizT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭LizT


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    You sell the fecking things, it's not ok to push nicotine on people who haven't asked or enquired. People who do that are scum I hope you don't employ those sales tactics.

    Bit of a leap there...


  • #83
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Anyone wrote: »
    If you were an alcoholic and you went into a restaurant and the waiter asked would you like some wine, and you flipped out in rage, would you consider that normal?

    What's with trying to Justify getting people addicted to a highly addictive drug, I just don't get the mentality.


  • #84
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    What's with trying to Justify getting people addicted to a highly addictive drug, I just don't get the mentality.

    Do you have a problem with heroin addicts being offered methadone?

    Vaping offers an alternative, not the ONLY alternative.


  • #85
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    You sell the fecking things, it's not ok to push nicotine on people who haven't asked or enquired. People who do that are scum I hope you don't employ those sales tactics.

    What about people who push coffee samples in public.


  • #86
    Anyone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    What's with trying to Justify getting people addicted to a highly addictive drug, I just don't get the mentality.

    Enjoy yourself at the pub then, be careful though, alcohol is addictive, and can seriously damage your health.


  • #87
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    What about people who push coffee samples in public.

    Or whiskey samples at airports?


  • #88
    Anyone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    What about people who push coffee samples in public.
    MadsL wrote: »
    Or whiskey samples at airports?

    Or fatty,sugar filled foods in supermarkets.


  • #89
    Mr. Chrome
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭Mr. Chrome


    Drunkmonkey, Go back on the fags, it might help with your anger issues.
    Cant believe you have a problem with something that saves lives. This isnt the first time you have come on boards ranting about ecigs. Seriously, were you abused by an ecig as a child?


  • #90
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,167 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    Those people are annoying and I find them difficult to listen to, I quit coffee 2 years ago now.


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  • #91
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Mr. Chrome wrote: »
    Drunkmonkey, Go back on the fags, it might help with your anger issues.
    Cant believe you have a problem with something that saves lives. This isnt the first time you have come on boards ranting about ecigs. Seriously, were you abused by an ecig as a child?


    No need for that type of attack.

    Champix does cause rage, but it is a bloody brilliant drug if you can afford it.
    Vaping offers an affordable alternative.


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