Season 3; Episode 10: HAVE read the books/Beware of **SPOILERS**

Solid.

All good scenes. Did Bran make Sam promise not to tell Jon about going north? Because that's kinda important.

It's a pity they wasted so much time on the Theon storyline across the whole series. Not like they were struggling to fill episodes.
They could've done half as much and finished it off tonight the same way - one episode showing the premise + escape, another with the chase + recapture and 1 where he gets his cock chopped off. Plenty.


They could've given more time to Mormont's death, more time to Robb, Cat, Edmure and the Blackfish, more time fleshing out the Jon/Ygritte story.
For the emotional payoffs they're looking for (and got), the characters and their relationships were threadbare in places.

The sheer shock value, quality of acting and what I would class as cheap tricks (stabbing Talisa in the baby, telling us the baby would be called Ned) made the pay-offs grand but I think they could've been better set up. They had to stuff things in right before the RW to get the viewer to care about Robb et al enough.



Not sure what Asha is going to do. She'll presumably have to be in Deepwood Motte when Stannis takes it - I suppose they'll kill Balon and she'll reconsider, go back home for the King's moot and go back to Deepwood again.

Makes her plan a bit of a red herring to non-readers.

Not sure they even needed to have Jamie and Brienne back this season. Wouldn't have done any harm to leave them. We know they're ok and on the way to KL.
They'll be scratching around for stuff to do the season after next. Spreading things out wouldn't do any harm.

I also don't really like what they did with Stannis.

Condemning Davos to die, and not relenting until Mel told him to and also having no qualms about killing Gendry.

He has a very robust moral compass in the books - he loses his way the odd time but it's only under pressure from Mel and always begrudgingly.

In the show he's a bit of a cu*t.

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

I forgot about Brienne in all this, I guess she'll be locked up though assuming Loras accuses her and all. It seems like a massive oversight at the moment though.

One tiny possibility is that they'll do the PW in like episode 1 or something.

That'd be a serious curve ball but it'd make sense with Brienne and Jaime barely getting their feet in the door.

Jamie can't be the one who failed to guard his king. More importantly, making them renege on their oaths to Cat will hugely diminish both their characters.

I see no reason why they can't do that, with Cersei accusing Tyrion in the last moment of S4E1. All they need to do is introduce Mace Tyrell and the Red Viper. They don't need to go over wedding details for 3 episodes.

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

Ok here's something a little off-topic, but could be important come next season. It's in relation to the Red Viper who will certainly feature next season. I'll spoiler it as it's a theory I only discover by googling him to see if anyone was cast yet and it's not game changing by any matter of means but is intriguing all the same.

Apparently there's a theory that the Red Viper poisoned Tywin Lannister's food when they were having dinner sometime. That's why he stank so bad after Tyrion shot him. If this were the case would they show that in the show I wonder?

Necronos wrote: »

Loved the scene with Joffrey and Tywin -"I am not TIRED!!!!!"




The scene with Tywin and Tyrion was also fantastic, - FUTURE BOOK/SHOW SPOILER -

Charles Dance will be such a loss when he gets his comeuppance and I cannot wait for the non book readers reaction, nearly as much as I was looking forward to the RW reaction.

I really hope

Good episode, some nice moments and some promises for next season.
I suppose the council piece was to sow doubt as to Tryons guilt for non book readers as theirs no doubt in the books.
The Starkwolf didn't look as fake as it did in the still shot. Jeoffry has lost all semblance of reason, Cersie seems less stupid than she is in the books. Small hint that Shae may be spying for Tywin. All in all a good ending to the Kings Landing plot line.

Ramsey Snow and Reek? I duno but this and Stannis going to the wall seemed to remove two big reveals in the books.
Not to mention Jamie turning up before the PW. Did you see the look Cercie gave his stump? I guess this is where their relationship breaks down.
10 months to see what happens and god knows how long before another book.

So how will they handle Jaimes early return? This'll surely mean that he'll be at the Purple Wedding then? I'm telling you, if we don't see Cersei
By my reckoning, the three big events for next season will be:

- The purple wedding
- The battle at the wall
- The trial by combat and it's aftermath.

The last one will probably be episode 9 - 10, not too sure about the others. Any thoughts?

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Davos: You ever been in a boat before?
Gendry: No
Davos: Don't you remember getting here then you spoofer? We even saw you get out of a boat!

Haha I was thinking that, seems to be an odd continuity error. They're on an island and he sure as hell didn't fly there!

I hated it, because I really was convinced we were gonna see Joffrey's wedding. And the only thing I can focus on is my anger at him still being alive.

Coldhands I neeeeeed you!

Gbear wrote: »

They were never going to cram that in this season.

Nah, and think of how satisfying it'll be after a few more episodes of him being a knob :pac: