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Why am I slower on my new carbon bike than I was on my old aluminium one???

  • 05-06-2013 09:04AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭


    I just bought a fancy new full carbon bike, went for my first spin this morning and I'm slower (average speed) on the new one than the old one - is this normal???

    T


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭colm_gti


    No, must be something wrong with the bike, bring it back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭Ole Rodrigo


    Flux capacitor probably.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭brownetara


    The only difference is I went out at 7am where normally I go after work at 5.0 pm? Think I need a turbo boost! :)

    T


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    brownetara wrote: »
    I just bought a fancy new full carbon bike, went for my first spin this morning and I'm slower (average speed) on the new one than the old one - is this normal???

    T

    Are you the Big Lebowski's alter ego?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭brownetara


    ford2600 wrote: »
    Are you the Big Lebowski's alter ego?

    Afraid you lost me there, I haven't seen the movie?? :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    brownetara wrote: »
    The only difference is I went out at 7am where normally I go after work at 5.0 pm? Think I need a turbo boost! :)

    T

    Roads are stickier in the morning so you don't roll as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭marketty


    I'm faster on my steel cross bike than I was on my aluminium racer, because I ride it more. Ride harder for longer more often, and as Gok Wan says 'accessorise baby' ie buy more cycling stuff. Every new shiny thing you get helps get you out the door I find


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,525 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Muscles get used to firing in a particular position. Your new bike is probably slightly different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭brownetara


    Raam wrote: »
    Roads are stickier in the morning so you don't roll as well.

    Sounds as good a reason as any, I'll stick with that one! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭detones


    Is it that Argos Carbon Bike?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭brownetara


    detones wrote: »
    Is it that Argos Carbon Bike?

    Argos do a carbon bike, oh dear!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,525 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    brownetara wrote: »
    Argos do a carbon bike, oh dear!

    It only comes with Shimano. There's even a matching kit.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,525 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    brownetara wrote: »
    I just bought a fancy new full carbon bike, went for my first spin this morning and I'm slower (average speed) on the new one than the old one - is this normal???

    T
    Yo cannot compare after a single spin. As Lumen indicated your position on the bike is almost certainly different and that will affect performance. In addition the road and weather conditions may have been very different, or maybe you were simply not performing as well on that spin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    brownetara wrote: »
    Afraid you lost me there, I haven't seen the movie?? :)

    TBL is a carbon skeptic poster.

    Make sure to catch movie sometime..

    If you expected new shiny carbon bike to be faster and find it easier; it doesn't work like that.

    Give it a week or two and post again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭brownetara


    ford2600 wrote: »
    TBL is a carbon skeptic poster.

    Make sure to catch movie sometime..

    If you expected new shiny carbon bike to be faster and find it easier; it doesn't work like that.

    Give it a week or two and post again

    I expect anything new and shiny to make me faster :) - you don't mean I actually have to work at it??? :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,479 ✭✭✭rollingscone


    Have you tried fitting a Dura Ace chain?

    h200106rocketbk_485_2.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    Average speed means nothing unless you are on an enclosed indoor track.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Average speed means nothing unless you are on an enclosed indoor track.

    Sure it means something. It means that is the speed which you have averaged for the conditions prevailing during the ride. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    Raam wrote: »
    Sure it means something. It means that is the speed which you have averaged for the conditions prevailing during the ride. :P

    Next to nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭shaka


    As lumen said prob slightly different position.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    Next to nothing.

    That's pretty slow alright.

    I'd be worried too if I was the OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,510 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    Use your main finger and turn the bike topwise...topwise!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,533 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    New carbon wheels and a pair of Oakley sunglasses! Thats what ya need to go fast!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭Zyzz


    Probably the suspension..


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Troll banned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,479 ✭✭✭rollingscone


    Serious hat on. It took me some time to get faster on my roadbike than on my Hybrid.

    The point about adjusting to the new bike stands as your best explanation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    brownetara wrote: »
    I just bought a fancy new full carbon bike, went for my first spin this morning and I'm slower (average speed) on the new one than the old one - is this normal???

    T

    There could be plenty of reasons why you average speed wasn't faster - you are not comparing like with like for example;

    -You could have been more tired than normal?
    -Did you do a different route?
    -Was the weather different?
    -You could have been holding back on the new bike without realising it
    -It will take you some time to adjust to the new bike position
    -Was it a different time of day (for example I feel much better cycling mornings than evening time when I am more awake)
    -Was your moving average higher or also lower than normal - i.e. excluding stops at traffic lights?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer


    Also Carbon doesn't necessarily make you any faster. It might be lighter than aluminum but it's probably not any stiffer.

    So if it's not a very hilly route, you shouldn't expect to go much (or at all) faster. Although the temporary new bike +10% power should have kicked in. Maybe yours came with a -10%. Check the receipt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Did you upgrade the engine too OP? Its normally an engine fault when my bike goes slow. Nearly 40 years old and driven hard. Rarely sees a service.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 546 ✭✭✭elduggo


    better wheels on the old bike?

    spin the wheels around on the new one. Make sure the cones aren't too tight and that they spin freely. Check theres no rubbing with brake blocks, etc.

    and be patient. if theres a lot of downhill in the spin you're talking about maybe the old bike is heavier (gravity, etc). Over longer spins you might find the carbon is quicker (especially when climbing).


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