What's Sergios beef ?

rednik · 22-05-2013 12:42PM

Sergio was destined for majors at the start of his career by just about every pundit and the pressure on him over the years has been great. In my opinion he will never win one as his head is what will cost him in the end. Harrington won 3 because of his mental toughness which Sergio lacks.

Funny thing I remember on sky after Padraig won the US PGA, Tony Jacklin was asked would Sergio ever win a major and he replied, ' I can see him win 4 '. I thought this was a little dig at Padraig's 3 wins.

realgolfgeek · 22-05-2013 01:03PM

I can see Sergio winning a Major to be honest.

Sergio and Tiger on the back 9 head to head next month would be good viewing !!

Almaviva · 22-05-2013 01:05PM

Aidric wrote: »

Can't see them sharing a family bucket anytime soon.

He's gone too far now. Has he really lost his marbles or is he deliberately trying to court controversy ?
He is in trouble on this one though. US media will come down heavy (even if he rises in the esteem of some of its citizens...).

markie4 · 22-05-2013 01:09PM

soundsham wrote: »

While I wouldn't be a fan of either and I don't see them as great role models on or off the course
I'd have more admiration for tiger and his achievements in golf alone

On course they both have had their tantrums spitting etc but one is a proven winner on the big stage while the other was once top dog at Adidas and a potential challenger to tiger but has now become a bit of under achieving moaning self pitying biaatch

Not having a go at you, soundsham, but I think this quote nicely proves that Tiger's ad was right, winning takes care of everything - at least in some people's eyes.

Despite them both behaving like absolute twonks on the course at times, and you citing examples of their behaviour, you appear to have more admiration for Tiger, and seem to be giving him more credit cos he wins more?

A pair of children, I'll second the nomination to pair them together, they can be in the assh0le group at the US Open, USGA can add Vijay as a referee/bouncer. hopefully they can put eachother off:)

Almaviva · 22-05-2013 01:15PM

markie4 wrote: »

Not having a go at you, soundsham, but I think this quote nicely proves that Tiger's ad was right, winning takes care of everything - at least in some people's eyes.

Despite them both behaving like absolute twonks on the course at times, and you citing examples of their behaviour, you appear to have more admiration for Tiger, and seem to be giving him more credit cos he wins more?

A pair of children, I'll second the nomination to pair them together, they can be in the assh0le group at the US Open, USGA can add Vijay as a referee/bouncer. hopefully they can put eachother off:)

Of course its about winning. We dont care about them as people - they are remote sportsmen to us and we will never meet them or have a relationship with them (any of you cocktail waitresses out there might disagree of course).
We watch them for how they play the game - and its excellence that we marvel at. So we admire Tiger because he plays the game better than anyone else ever. Sergio is carcrash/reality TV sort of entertainment, but it is sad to see his frustration so openly on his own failure to achive what people expected him to.

Russman · 22-05-2013 01:42PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Of course its about winning. We dont care about them as people - they are remote sportsmen to us and we will never meet them or have a relationship with them (any of you cocktail waitresses out there might disagree of course).
We watch them for how they play the game - and its excellence that we marvel at. So we admire Tiger because he plays the game better than anyone else ever. Sergio is carcrash/reality TV sort of entertainment, but it is sad to see his frustration so openly on his own failure to achive what people expected him to.

For sure Tiger plays the game well, as for "better than anyone else ever" - meh, he's top 3 or 5.
Playing the game involves a lot more than mere scores. It would still be nice if they conducted themselves with a little bit of grace on occasion though, doesn't cost much to be polite.

ForeRight · 22-05-2013 01:55PM

I only ever eat the skin on fried chicken

Mr. Larson · 22-05-2013 01:56PM

ForeRight wrote: »

I only ever eat the skin on fried chicken

& the bones... depending on how many beers are on board.

vienne86 · 22-05-2013 01:59PM

I have always been a bit of a fan of Sergio, but I think he has shown himself to be a bit of a prat over this. That said, I think the journalists are hoping to create a scene and give them something to write about.....I think they should just write about the golf.

FixdePitchmark · 22-05-2013 02:00PM

I know what Segio's beef is now.
Fried Chicken.

Carnegie · 22-05-2013 02:01PM

I could really go for some fried chicken right now, why are there so few KFC's in Dublin!?

FixdePitchmark · 22-05-2013 02:09PM

Do you think Sergio knew the expression was an emotive one in US.
He has spent years over there.

But I can't imagine he meant it in a racist way.
Spinning in media. Tiger adding to it with a tweet.

Tiger should not be pulling race card in a argument like that. Too serious for that.
They dont like each other. Get on with it.

the lawman · 22-05-2013 02:11PM

I really can't see how anyone can have a pop at Woods or journalists over this 'spat'. To my mind its all about Sergio. He just can't keep his thoughts private and he should know better considering his experience.

Really disappointing from Sergio in my book. Tigers latest tweet and the way he's responded throughout has been dignified, whether you hate him or not.

ForeRight · 22-05-2013 02:21PM

I'd murder a boneless banquet for 1 right now!!!!!

markie4 · 22-05-2013 02:27PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Of course its about winning. We dont care about them as people - they are remote sportsmen to us and we will never meet them or have a relationship with them (any of you cocktail waitresses out there might disagree of course).
We watch them for how they play the game - and its excellence that we marvel at. So we admire Tiger because he plays the game better than anyone else ever. Sergio is carcrash/reality TV sort of entertainment, but it is sad to see his frustration so openly on his own failure to achive what people expected him to.

In terms of admiring a golfer, to you it's only about winning?
Nothing about how they play the game and conduct themselves? Once there's a few excellent shots thrown in, anything else in terms of behaviour is ok?
Where do you draw the line, do you draw the line anywhere?
What's the worst trait you'd accept in a "winner"?

Oilbeefhooked! · 22-05-2013 02:36PM

Tiger Woods -"The comment wasn't silly , it was wrong ,hurtful and clearly inappropriate"."The Players ended 2 weeks ago its time to move on"
If he genuinely felt this he would be the bigger person and not fan the flames further ,Garcia obviously didnt mean it in a racist manner he's just got a big mouth and spoke without thinking.

Woods is loving all this and if he could have just been a Gentleman (in the mould of other great golfers that have gone before him) and apologised for the misunderstanding that affected Garcia shot at the players in the first place,
rather than his "hes always moaning about something" comment this would have gone away weeks ago.

But no he's a big kid and now trying to come across all Judgemental and Righteous ,purely to twist the knife into Garcia -
Is Hugely rich coming from him and his track record and the way he conducts himself on the golf course!!

Great Golfer - Poor Human being imo.

p.s. Not Saying Garcia is a saint , just a bit daft with a big mouth.

Ilik Urgee · 22-05-2013 02:41PM

Jazzzman · 22-05-2013 02:42PM

For Paws wrote: »

Apparently, as many times as he's asked.
(By lazy journalists seeking an easy story).

what, he's gotta have a moan every time someone brings up an old story?

trying 'no comment' and letting the issue die would be a good idea

Jazzzman · 22-05-2013 02:48PM

Oilbeefhooked! wrote: »

Tiger Woods -"The comment wasn't silly , it was wrong ,hurtful and clearly inappropriate"."The Players ended 2 weeks ago its time to move on"
If he genuinely felt this he would be the bigger person and not fan the flames further ,Garcia obviously didnt mean it in a racist manner he's just got a big mouth and spoke without thinking.

Woods is loving all this and if he could have just been a Gentleman (in the mould of other great golfers that have gone before him) and apologised for the misunderstanding that affected Garcia shot at the players in the first place,
rather than his "hes always moaning about something" comment this would have gone away weeks ago.

But no he's a big kid and now trying to come across all Judgemental and Righteous ,purely to twist the knife into Garcia -
Is Hugely rich coming from him and his track record and the way he conducts himself on the golf course!!

Great Golfer - Poor Human being imo.

p.s. Not Saying Garcia is a saint , just a bit daft with a big mouth.

So Tiger is a 'poor human' whilst Sergio is a 'bit daft'.:rolleyes:

GreeBo · 22-05-2013 02:49PM

Jazzzman wrote: »

what, he's gotta have a moan every time someone brings up an old story?

trying 'no comment' and letting the issue die would be a good idea

Clearly there is a pair of them in it "hes always moaning about something" was a childish thing to say by Woods, if he truly had class he wouldnt have said that. You'd never get that from the true gents of the game.

Oilbeefhooked! · 22-05-2013 02:52PM

Jazzzman wrote: »

So Tiger is a 'poor human' whilst Sergio is a 'bit daft'.:rolleyes:

Ok maybe a bit daft is goin light on him , but dont think too many could disagree
with my assesment of woods, beside being a magician with a golf ball hes pretty
piss poor in all other departments!!

Oilbeefhooked! · 22-05-2013 02:52PM

GreeBo wrote: »

Clearly there is a pair of them in it "hes always moaning about something" was a childish thing to say by Woods, if he truly had class he wouldnt have said that. You'd never get that from the true gents of the game.

+1

Chucky the tree · 22-05-2013 02:56PM

Woods doesn't want this to go away. It will help take the attention away from his blatant cheating he's done in his last two tournaments.

Jazzzman · 22-05-2013 02:58PM

GreeBo wrote: »

Clearly there is a pair of them in it "hes always moaning about something" was a childish thing to say by Woods, if he truly had class he wouldnt have said that. You'd never get that from the true gents of the game.

any opportunity to have a pop at Woods I guess

GreeBo · 22-05-2013 02:59PM

Jazzzman wrote: »

any opportunity to have a pop at Woods I guess

Me or Sergio?

Oilbeefhooked! · 22-05-2013 03:02PM

Jazzzman wrote: »

any opportunity to have a pop at Woods I guess

Poor old Tiger, always the victim!!

Jazzzman · 22-05-2013 03:02PM

GreeBo wrote: »

Me or Sergio?

Lots of people dislike Woods and use any opportunity to have a pop.

Can you imagine if Tiger had been in Sergios position and Sergio in Tigers?

boy oh boy

the majority would be saying Sergio had done nothing wrong and Tiger was way out of order. this is guaranteed

realgolfgeek · 22-05-2013 03:04PM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Woods doesn't want this to go away. It will help take the attention away from his blatant cheating he's done in his last two tournaments.

blatant cheating ... that's a bit OTT in all fairness.

Oilbeefhooked! · 22-05-2013 03:06PM

From Sergios press conf - ""I want to give an unreserved apology. I didn't mean to offend anyone. I was caught off guard, but my answer was totally stupid and out of place. I'd like to say sorry to the European Tour, my Ryder Cup team mates and to Tiger. I feel sick about it, I'm truly, truly sorry."
Hopefully Tiger can accept an apology like a gentleman without anymore flame fanning.

realgolfgeek · 22-05-2013 03:12PM

Oilbeefhooked! wrote: »

Hopefully Tiger can accept an apology like a gentleman without anymore flame fanning.

If I were Tiger I wouldn't be so forgiving to be honest.
That's (at least) three times he's had racists remarks ....
the masters incidents in 97, steve williams, and now sergio.

Not only should Sergio be apologising, he should be getting a hefty fine or ban by the PGA committee.

What's Sergios beef ?

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