Cork City Marathon 2013

Airtel31 · 07-05-2013 11:17PM

Sorry to hear that but look on the bright side you can use the half marathon to see how your recovery is going

outforarun · 08-05-2013 02:36PM

Name|Gold Time|Silver Time|Bronze Time
beef|3:54|3:59:59|don't want to think about it
ncmc|3:37|3:42|3:44:59
vinny1313|3:40|3:47|3:54
PaulieYifter|2:59|2:59|2:59
jcsmum|3:29|3:29|3:29
Steroo|3:29|3:39|3:45
Ecoenergy|3:24|3:27|3:29:59
scriba|3:35|3:40|3:45
Tipp man running|3:09|3:12|3:14
Mr.Wiggle|3:15|3:20|3:26
docjewel|3:29|3:34|3:39
outforarun|3:34:59|3:37:59|3:39:59

these might yet change, but after blowing up in the last two CCM editions, I'm terrified of completing a hat-trick.

Airtel31 · 10-05-2013 10:52PM

After several niggling injuries I did 17 miles this evening in 2hrs 44 I'm wondering have I enough time to have a go at the 20 next week or just start tapering now any thoughts it's my first marathon and looking to break 5 hrs might even sneak under 4 and a half

mr.wiggle · 11-05-2013 01:31AM

Airtel31 wrote: »

After several niggling injuries I did 17 miles this evening in 2hrs 44 I'm wondering have I enough time to have a go at the 20 next week or just start tapering now any thoughts it's my first marathon and looking to break 5 hrs might even sneak under 4 and a half

'Normal' tapering starts 3 weeks out. You could be cutting it tight. In saying that my LSR next week is 18 miles, so maybe another 17 miler would do for you if you haven't many long runs done? ( Anyone else with a bit more experience, got any thoughts on this?)
Looking at your times there Airtel I'd say as long as you don't overcook the first half of the marathon you should be ok for your target time !

EauRouge79 · 11-05-2013 10:41PM

Airtel31 wrote: »

After several niggling injuries I did 17 miles this evening in 2hrs 44 I'm wondering have I enough time to have a go at the 20 next week or just start tapering now any thoughts it's my first marathon and looking to break 5 hrs might even sneak under 4 and a half

15 day taper is usually enough of a taper for me. #
I would ask yourself if you feel happy that you are 100% recovered from the injury and are you generally quick to recover from your long runs? if yes to both I would suggest that you could get that 20 in next fri/sat and still have a 16/17 day taper.

Steroo · 11-05-2013 10:57PM

EauRouge79 wrote: »

15 day taper is usually enough of a taper for me. #
I would ask yourself if you feel happy that you are 100% recovered from the injury and are you generally quick to recover from your long runs? if yes to both I would suggest that you could get that 20 in next fri/sat and still have a 16/17 day taper.

If I get over my injury well this week I will be considering this approach also.

Airtel31 · 11-05-2013 11:39PM

EauRouge79 wrote: »

15 day taper is usually enough of a taper for me. #
I would ask yourself if you feel happy that you are 100% recovered from the injury and are you generally quick to recover from your long runs? if yes to both I would suggest that you could get that 20 in next fri/sat and still have a 16/17 day taper.

Yeah about 95% recovered, and I'm a little stiff next day generally ready to go on short runs 2nd day, given a tip by my grand father to go for a walk in the sea for a half an hour apparently you should be brand new after it, I think your right I will try it Friday I am home early from work so will have plenty time to do it

Itziger · 12-05-2013 06:12PM

Airtel31 wrote: »

Yeah about 95% recovered, and I'm a little stiff next day generally ready to go on short runs 2nd day, given a tip by my grand father to go for a walk in the sea for a half an hour apparently you should be brand new after it, I think your right I will try it Friday I am home early from work so will have plenty time to do it

I hope I'm not as old as your Granda but I can back up the walk in the sea. It seems to work wonders for lots of leg problems.

17 days should be ok for a 20 miler but I wouldn't push it much on that run, just get it in the bank to reassure you if nothing else.

Airtel31 · 12-05-2013 10:57PM

Itziger wrote: »

I hope I'm not as old as your Granda but I can back up the walk in the sea. It seems to work wonders for lots of leg problems.

17 days should be ok for a 20 miler but I wouldn't push it much on that run, just get it in the bank to reassure you if nothing else.

Yeah I think I will just to have it in the bank and I will try that sea thing

Airtel31 · 18-05-2013 08:33AM

Just looking at the marathon website and seen the closing date extended to Tuesday 21st I wonder did they get a enough entries, there claiming they had a rush of last minute entries but the cynic in me suggest otherwise

PaulieYifter · 18-05-2013 09:16AM

Airtel31 wrote: »

Just looking at the marathon website and seen the closing date extended to Tuesday 21st I wonder did they get a enough entries, there claiming they had a rush of last minute entries but the cynic in me suggest otherwise

They extend it every year.

ncmc · 20-05-2013 11:19AM

So how is everyone feeling with 2 weeks to go? I'm feeling pretty good I must say, have had a couple of good weeks and a nice 10K race yesterday. Feeling pretty good with my decision to start with the 3:45 pacers rather than go it alone. I will try and push on at the end, and if I finish somewhere between 3:40-3:45 I will be delighted.

Any word on who is pacing yet?

To more important issues.... how does everyone feel about The Woodford for after race drinks? It's near the finish line, it's a good size and they serve food, so thought it would be a good option. Fast people - your job is to get there and get a table!

TFBubendorfer · 20-05-2013 12:32PM

ncmc wrote: »

Any word on who is pacing yet?

That's still being finalised. Last I heard there is no 3 hrs pacer but two guys will take turns each running one half. All the other pacing slots will be filled "normally".

opus · 20-05-2013 12:44PM

ncmc wrote: »

To more important issues.... how does everyone feel about The Woodford for after race drinks? It's near the finish line, it's a good size and they serve food, so thought it would be a good option. Fast people - your job is to get there and get a table!

The Woodford should be fine I'd imagine, it's pretty big & the food is good there.

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

That's still being finalised. Last I heard there is no 3 hrs pacer but two guys will take turns each running one half. All the other pacing slots will be filled "normally".

Coincidently I bumped into the 1.30 pacers for the half-marathon after their 10m run at 1.30 pace when I was out for a run last Sat, one of them is KentuckyPete from these parts.

PaulieYifter · 20-05-2013 01:01PM

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

That's still being finalised. Last I heard there is no 3 hrs pacer but two guys will take turns each running one half. All the other pacing slots will be filled "normally".

Oh dear - well at least I'll run my own race - are you not tempted to step in for a training run Thomas

In other news bagged a 38:46 10k PB yesterday - legs still feel a bit beat up after Boston.

18 miler tonight - leg of the Wicklow Way Relay next weekend and then a 1 week taper

menoscemo · 20-05-2013 01:09PM

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

That's still being finalised. Last I heard there is no 3 hrs pacer but two guys will take turns each running one half. All the other pacing slots will be filled "normally".

It was the same in Limerick last month and the system seemed to work really well.
Barring the big races (like Dublin) 3hr pacers are hard to come by...

EauRouge79 · 20-05-2013 01:37PM

menoscemo wrote: »

It was the same in Limerick last month and the system seemed to work really well.
Barring the big races (like Dublin) 3hr pacers are hard to come by...

I paced the 2nd half of 3hr slot in Limerick having picked the group up at half way. The lad who shared the pacing with me ran a mile beyond halfway just to get me settled in the pace. It worked well in fairness. Not enough Mick Rice's about the place......:)

TFBubendorfer · 20-05-2013 03:39PM

PaulieYifter wrote: »

are you not tempted to step in for a training run Thomas

Not with a 3:15 balloon strapped onto me

PaulieYifter wrote:

In other news bagged a 38:46 10k PB yesterday - legs still feel a bit beat up after Boston.)

Congratulations, but don't overdo it. You do need some recovery at some stage!

opus · 22-05-2013 08:54PM

The distance numbers are being painted on the route meaning it's getting close! Came across the 14m marker last night & the one below (which I'm sure will be a welcome sight

) this evening.

ncmc · 22-05-2013 09:56PM

^^^ started seeing the road closure signs as well, makes my stomach flip every time I see one!

Kurt Godel · 23-05-2013 07:29AM

menoscemo wrote: »

It was the same in Limerick last month and the system seemed to work really well.
Barring the big races (like Dublin) 3hr pacers are hard to come by...

AFAIK having a separate pacer join the race midway is against IAAF and AIMS rules, and invalidates the performance of those who receive this illegal assistance. Not something many would care/worry about at this time level, granted, but others might care about that sort of thing.

(Edit* I should add though that this illegal assistance is the same illegal assistance as anyone who gets a gel handed to them from a mate or whatever- hardly enough to justify an IAAF EGM!;) But enough for some marathons to have considered and rejected the 2-pacer idea)

Ferris B · 23-05-2013 07:21PM

I'm planning to run Cork for the first time having run Dublin in 2011 & 2012. As a visitor I'm just wondering are they're any nasty hills to watch out for particularly from mile 18 onwards.

Also a quick scan of the marathon website shows some of the route to be on pedestrianised streets (footpaths?). Are there any issues with congestion... particularly at water stations. I'm planning to go with the 3.30 pacers. Thanks.

PaulieYifter · 23-05-2013 08:09PM

Ferris B wrote: »

I'm planning to run Cork for the first time having run Dublin in 2011 & 2012. As a visitor I'm just wondering are they're any nasty hills to watch out for particularly from mile 18 onwards.

Also a quick scan of the marathon website shows some of the route to be on pedestrianised streets (footpaths?). Are there any issues with congestion... particularly at water stations. I'm planning to go with the 3.30 pacers. Thanks.

Cork is probably an easier profile than Dublin.

No major hills of note - longest and steepest is realitively early coming out of Jack Lynch Tunnel (7 miles in).

After that there's a couple of short sharp ups but nothing long - think 100m.

Then between miles 18 and 22 you go up and down a bit but after that it is genuinely downhill or flat to the finish - so dig in in that section because you will get a breather of sorts.

Re footpaths there are some narrow sections. You're off road for a couple of miles from mile 12 and then again from mile 23 to 25. Much smaller numbers than Dublin though so congestion should not be a problem - with the 3:30 group it may be a bit crowded from mile 12 to 14 but depending on the weather you might be glad of the shelter.

I've never had problems with water but note that not all the water stations give out bottles so be prepared to grab a cup at times.

Enjoy it - its a smaller affair than Dublin but you get more space as a result and kind of build more of a relationship with the other runners and I find you get a great lift from the cheers through the relay changeover points. I recommend this race to everybody.

Ecoenergy · 23-05-2013 08:42PM

I'm undecided about whether to wear my bottle belt. For comfort reasons I'd prefer not to but there are only 3 lucozade stations and they are in cups which i hate using. Are these enough to refuel, along with the water stations. I'll be taking 4 gels as well.

Murph_D · 23-05-2013 09:52PM

Bottle belt in a marathon? Surely not. You can surely get by on water, your gels and if you need it, the lucozade, even if you have to walk through the lucozade stops.

ncmc · 23-05-2013 10:34PM

I personally wouldn't wear a water belt Ecoenergy, I think you would be ready to fling it off a bridge after 20 miles! What I did in Dublin and will do again in Cork, is carry high 5 tabs in my gel belt and add a half a tablet to every second bottle of water. There are water stations every couple of miles so I think water coupled with high 5 tabs and 4/5 gels should be enough (I hope so anyway!)

knipper · 24-05-2013 08:15AM

Quick question, my bro is doing the cork marathon.
He's quite heavy 5ft9/15stone.
He has been doing long runs after his sun dinner and bringing a berocca in his bottle with a few jellys.
Is there something anyone recommends for him to try out nutrition wise before his last long run this weekend.
He has a 4 hr run sunday before tapering off and aiming to finish the marathon in 5 hrs.
I'm just worried he's not getting enough nutrition and will suffer accordingly on the day.
Any advice much appreciated.
Many thanks

EauRouge79 · 24-05-2013 08:38AM

knipper wrote: »

Quick question, my bro is doing the cork marathon.
He's quite heavy 5ft9/15stone.
He has been doing long runs after his sun dinner and bringing a berocca in his bottle with a few jellys.
Is there something anyone recommends for him to try out nutrition wise before his last long run this weekend.
He has a 4 hr run sunday before tapering off and aiming to finish the marathon in 5 hrs.
I'm just worried he's not getting enough nutrition and will suffer accordingly on the day.
Any advice much appreciated.
Many thanks

No1. He should not be doing a long run this weekend. A 4 hr run will be of absolutely no benefit to him come monday week, it will only succeed in him arriving at the start tired. It takes at least 2 weeks to derive any fitness from those long runs. In some cases it takes longer. Some runners can get away with a shorter taper but I suspect your brother doesn't fit into this category.

I would also question the big meal before his long runs, this will only make those runs tougher....sluggish/stich etc....his carb loading should be done in the day or two leading up to the race. Not immediately before.
He shouldn't however try anything new in terms of foods this week. Carry on with what his is used to for now cos he doesn't want to risk stomach upset on race day.

Ecoenergy · 24-05-2013 08:43AM

knipper wrote: »

Quick question, my bro is doing the cork marathon.
He's quite heavy 5ft9/15stone.
He has been doing long runs after his sun dinner and bringing a berocca in his bottle with a few jellys.
Is there something anyone recommends for him to try out nutrition wise before his last long run this weekend.
He has a 4 hr run sunday before tapering off and aiming to finish the marathon in 5 hrs.
I'm just worried he's not getting enough nutrition and will suffer accordingly on the day.
Any advice much appreciated.
Many thanks

I don't think the berocca will give any extra benefit. It will simply keep him hydrated the same as water would on its own. I'm open to correction here but I don't think it has the carbs that a sports drink would have.

The major issue here is that he's planning on a 4hr run this weekend. His tapering should have started 2 weeks ago. A one hour run should be the longest this close to the race or his legs will still feel heavy on the day. This is a much more important point than what he plans to drink.

I have seen people carry a banana if they have a belt to carry it, so if he had one around halfway it could give him much needed energy towards the end. If you're along the course yourself, you could pass one to him.

knipper · 24-05-2013 09:14AM

Thanks for the advice I'll pass it on to him.
His plan is to get up at 6 have a bowl of porridge with nuts sultanas and a banana.
I'll advise him to bring another banana with him and a sports drink and maybe have another with family along the way.
Hopefully the improved race prep will help make it a more enjoyable run for him.
I'm no help on the day as I'm doing the half but hopefully I'll see him at the end for a bbq.
Thanks again.

Cork City Marathon 2013

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