Final days before I travel

Legs.Eleven · 18-05-2013 12:27AM

Carson10 wrote: »

people moving away now is just the new fashion, just like it was a few years ago to go to college in Dublin.

Alot of the Irish people going to 'OZ' are just doing it cos everyone else is. Anytime I hear some1 say there going to Thailand/Asia and then on to 'OZ' its the same as saying they are going to Galway and then on to Dublin.

Its a typical Irish thing.

Be different and move to France or somthing. at least its only 2 hours away.

Imagine getting off the plane in 'oz' and looking at all those roaster irish people in GAA Jeserys. Id actually be embarrassed to be Irish in 'OZ'.

Aw shur it's all de shtyle, isn't it?

Carson10 · 18-05-2013 12:31AM

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Aw shur it's all de shtyle, isn't it?

aye...sure there mad for the shtyle.. some1 send the young1s working widoubt in Oz a box of Taytos.

Jimoslimos · 18-05-2013 12:35AM

Vaccinations, travel medicines, Immodium, etc.

Be careful with some OTC drugs which may be restricted in certain Asian countries. Check before you travel, also check other customs regulations if you happen to crossing a lot of borders. Read up on the countries you plan to visit - both on the sights and potential pitfalls.

And finally take the mammy out for a fancy meal before you go. She'll be mad worried about you while you're gone.

Jamsiek · 18-05-2013 04:17AM

Carson10 wrote: »

people moving away now is just the new fashion, just like it was a few years ago to go to college in Dublin.

Alot of the Irish people going to 'OZ' are just doing it cos everyone else is. Anytime I hear some1 say there going to Thailand/Asia and then on to 'OZ' its the same as saying they are going to Galway and then on to Dublin.

Its a typical Irish thing.

Be different and move to France or somthing. at least its only 2 hours away.

Imagine getting off the plane in 'oz' and looking at all those roaster irish people in GAA Jeserys. Id actually be embarrassed to be Irish in 'OZ'.

Actually it's not a typically Irish thing, lots of people from the UK do t too.

I agree with you about embarrassing Irish with GAA jerseys in Oz, that's one of the reasons I moved to Vancouver instead.
Lots of Irish here too but they don't seem to follow each other like sheep hanging around Irish bars and not integrating like too many seem to do in Oz

Canis Lupus · 18-05-2013 04:32AM

Carson10 wrote: »

people moving away now is just the new fashion, just like it was a few years ago to go to college in Dublin.

Alot of the Irish people going to 'OZ' are just doing it cos everyone else is. Anytime I hear some1 say there going to Thailand/Asia and then on to 'OZ' its the same as saying they are going to Galway and then on to Dublin.

Its a typical Irish thing.

Be different and move to France or somthing. at least its only 2 hours away.

Imagine getting off the plane in 'oz' and looking at all those roaster irish people in GAA Jeserys. Id actually be embarrassed to be Irish in 'OZ'.

I'm in Brisbane and there are a lot of different nationalities here.

Whilst I agree that I hate when people say they're going to Australia for an adventure (as if going to an English speaking 1st world country and spending all your time in the major cities is somehow an adventure) but really, if you're going to look for work I think it's a bit of common sense to expect a person to go somewhere English speaking... I've yet to see someone in a GAA jersey btw.

Gorilla Rising · 18-05-2013 05:22AM

Jamsiek wrote: »

Lots of Irish here too but they don't seem to follow each other like sheep hanging around Irish bars and not integrating like too many seem to do in Oz

That's not true. I've family in Vancouver so have been a regular visitor for 15 years.

All I see and hear is Irish people in Irish bars. Even a lot of friends of mine that went over were the same.

Go to work. Get drunk. See nowhere else in Canada. It's ridiculous. They might as well be at home. Better life? I don't know, maybe, but it all depends on the person at the end of the day.

Obviously you're glad and you're making the most of it.

Some people (like the OP it seems) just have the wrong attitude in general. No matter where they go it'll be the same eventually. I've seen it many times - sadly with people close to me.

18-05-2013 08:20AM

I tried doing what you're doing OP but thankfully, got stuck in Asia. Will more than likely never make it down to Australia.

Advice before you leave? Don't waste your time with malaria medicine.

Freddy Smelly · 18-05-2013 08:22AM

buy up as many boxes of tayto & bottles of red lemonade, and barry's tea as you can afford and start and import business in australia... the irish will buy them over there

18-05-2013 08:30AM

See lots of Ireland before you go. Hang out with friends and family as much as possible.

Enjoy your free time and embrace what you're about to do. If it doesn't work out - so what! Nothing ventured nothing gained and all that jazz.

stefan idiot jones · 18-05-2013 09:30AM

longhalloween wrote: »

Eat as much tayto, bachelors beans and Brennan's batch loaf as you can.

You won't be seeing them for a while.

Start stockpiling chef sauce ready to stuff your cases.
You won't need your warm clothes so make room.
That stuff costs a bloody fortune here.......but worth every penny.

stefan idiot jones · 18-05-2013 09:34AM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

I'm in Brisbane and there are a lot of different nationalities here.

Whilst I agree that I hate when people say they're going to Australia for an adventure (as if going to an English speaking 1st world country and spending all your time in the major cities is somehow an adventure) but really, if you're going to look for work I think it's a bit of common sense to expect a person to go somewhere English speaking... I've yet to see someone in a GAA jersey btw.

I saw a guy in Greenslopes with s Tipp jersey on the other week. He was the only I have seen though apart from the scangers with the Celtic tops on for St. Patrick's parade.

Legs.Eleven · 18-05-2013 11:03AM

Gorilla Rising wrote: »

That's not true. I've family in Vancouver so have been a regular visitor for 15 years.

All I see and hear is Irish people in Irish bars. Even a lot of friends of mine that went over were the same.

Go to work. Get drunk. See nowhere else in Canada. It's ridiculous. They might as well be at home. Better life? I don't know, maybe, but it all depends on the person at the end of the day.

Obviously you're glad and you're making the most of it.

Some people (like the OP it seems) just have the wrong attitude in general. No matter where they go it'll be the same eventually. I've seen it many times - sadly with people close to me.

Everywhere you go, you'll find the ex pats who stick with their own. Here in Madrid it's the same but it's not exclusive to just Irish people.

You don't have to do that if you don't want to but if you do, it's your choice. So what.

Karpops · 18-05-2013 11:07AM

Buy loads of the Tayto bars and sell them for 5 bucks each in Oz. You'll be a millionaire, guaranteed.

Corruptedmorals · 18-05-2013 11:21AM

If travelling around Asia means Indonesia- specifically Lombok, Gili Islands and Bali, do not drink any alcohol there. Methanol poisoning continues to happen there and lots of types are tainted; cocktails, arak, spirits, even sealed bottles of spirits. It's odourless, tasteless so you just won't know and as little as 30ml can be fatal. I say this because there's very little awareness about it, and because it killed my friend. You might just mean Thailand but just in case.

18-05-2013 11:44AM

Yea, very sad.. Just on the Guardian.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/18/uk-backpacker-dies-poisoned-alcohol-indonesia

Jimoslimos · 18-05-2013 12:01PM

Corruptedmorals wrote: »

If travelling around Asia means Indonesia- specifically Lombok, Gili Islands and Bali, do not drink any alcohol there. Methanol poisoning continues to happen there and lots of types are tainted; cocktails, arak, spirits, even sealed bottles of spirits. It's odourless, tasteless so you just won't know and as little as 30ml can be fatal. I say this because there's very little awareness about it, and because it killed my friend. You might just mean Thailand but just in case.

I remember that. She was a boardsie too if I recall.

Gorilla Rising · 18-05-2013 12:09PM

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Everywhere you go, you'll find the ex pats who stick with their own. Here in Madrid it's the same but it's not exclusive to just Irish people.

You don't have to do that if you don't want to but if you do, it's your choice. So what.

Yeah that's true.

My point was though that the ones saying they're going over looking to experience something different and build a better life, but end up with a life much the same as here, just further away.

You can't blame the ones who've had to move away to work for being the way I described, but I was just talking about a particular group.

Meritocracy Wins · 18-05-2013 12:44PM

Good luck OP. I have 5 more years to do before I get off this rock permanently.

mfceiling · 18-05-2013 12:59PM

I did it 13 years ago OP.

Best decision of my life. Enjoy it.

Legs.Eleven · 18-05-2013 01:47PM

Gorilla Rising wrote: »

Yeah that's true.

My point was though that the ones saying they're going over looking to experience something different and build a better life, but end up with a life much the same as here, just further away.

You can't blame the ones who've had to move away to work for being the way I described, but I was just talking about a particular group.

Not to attack you in particular but this comes up a lot. I don't know why people have such a problem with people doing this. I live in Madrid and I work and pay bills and go to the supermarket and get drunk and take public transport etc. The only difference really is the fact that my job is different, I sometimes speak a different lingo and it's sunny more often so I spend more time outdoors and in less clothes. I'm living a similar kind of life as I did in Ireland. Unless I'm moving to Outer Mongolia or the Amazon Jungle, life isn't so much different in most Westernised countries.

Locals often go to the Irish bars here because they're often fun and the one place internationally where you can talk to people outside your group without being seen as chatting up someone. If people befriend Irish people, I can't see the problem with that. I didn't fall in with an Irish crowd because that's how it worked out but actually I'd like a few more Irish friends tbh as I tend to have good fun with them when I head out.

The dfference between Ireland and Ozz right now is the fact that their economy is stronger, so in terms of work, people will have jobs there unlike here so obviously life will be better in terms of money. They're also going to have the outdoor culture, which appeals to people. Beyond that, I imagine Australian culture isn't a million miles from Irish culture, so I don't really know what people expect.

spankmemunkey · 18-05-2013 02:37PM

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

I saw a guy in Greenslopes with s Tipp jersey on the other week. He was the only I have seen though apart from the scangers with the Celtic tops on for St. Patrick's parade.

are you saying people who wear Celtic tops are scangers? pretty broad statement that, can you back up that statement with some evidence? well maybe thats just cos your a conspiracy theorist and are making presumptions again

stefan idiot jones · 18-05-2013 02:57PM

mfceiling wrote: »

I did it 13 years ago OP.

Best decision of my life. Enjoy it.

Six and a half months, loving every second. I took my daughter and her friends down the Pacific Highway to Wet n Wild in the Gold Coast for her birthday today.
Not a cloud in the sky and I'll be up early Monday morning for work.

Life is good.

Jamsiek · 18-05-2013 03:19PM

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Not to attack you in particular but this comes up a lot. I don't know why people have such a problem with people doing this. I live in Madrid and I work and pay bills and go to the supermarket and get drunk and take public transport etc. The only difference really is the fact that my job is different, I sometimes speak a different lingo and it's sunny more often so I spend more time outdoors and in less clothes. I'm living a similar kind of life as I did in Ireland. Unless I'm moving to Outer Mongolia or the Amazon Jungle, life isn't so much different in most Westernised countries.

Locals often go to the Irish bars here because they're often fun and the one place internationally where you can talk to people outside your group without being seen as chatting up someone. If people befriend Irish people, I can't see the problem with that. I didn't fall in with an Irish crowd because that's how it worked out but actually I'd like a few more Irish friends tbh as I tend to have good fun with them when I head out.

The dfference between Ireland and Ozz right now is the fact that their economy is stronger, so in terms of work, people will have jobs there unlike here so obviously life will be better in terms of money. They're also going to have the outdoor culture, which appeals to people. Beyond that, I imagine Australian culture isn't a million miles from Irish culture, so I don't really know what people expect.

I didn't think there would be many Irish expats on Madrid. Their economy is worse than the Irish one from what I hear.

I can understand why Irish or Brits hang out together when in a far away country or where the culture and language is different, but if they do it all the time they will never integrate to the new country IMO

stefan idiot jones · 18-05-2013 03:27PM

Jamsiek wrote: »

I can understand why Irish or Brits hang out together when in a far away country or where the culture and language is different, but if they do it all the time they will never integrate to the new country IMO

You Sir, are correct.

spankmemunkey · 18-05-2013 03:36PM

spankmemunkey wrote: »

are you saying people who wear Celtic tops are scangers? pretty broad statement that, can you back up that statement with some evidence? well maybe thats just cos your a conspiracy theorist and are making presumptions again

Well are you?

18-05-2013 05:14PM

Jamsiek wrote: »

I didn't think there would be many Irish expats on Madrid. Their economy is worse than the Irish one from what I hear.

I can understand why Irish or Brits hang out together when in a far away country or where the culture and language is different, but if they do it all the time they will never integrate to the new country IMO

A lot probably don't want to/care about integrating though. They are there as a stop gap until they can get work back home again and as they probably never really wanted to leave they would rather try to make it feel as much like home as possible.

Legs.Eleven · 18-05-2013 05:26PM

Jamsiek wrote: »

I didn't think there would be many Irish expats on Madrid. Their economy is worse than the Irish one from what I hear.

Loads. There's even a Gaelic football team here - the Madrid Harps. Plenty of English teaching jobs here (which is what I'm doing), so plenty of Irish came over.

Jamsiek · 18-05-2013 06:27PM

Kyla Straight Art wrote: »

A lot probably don't want to/care about integrating though. They are there as a stop gap until they can get work back home again and as they probably never really wanted to leave they would rather try to make it feel as much like home as possible.

I can understand that they like the home comforts and I'm like that to a certain degree but I think there should be a balance between that and making an effort to integrate even a small bit.

It would be a shame if they made no effort IMO and learned nothing from their experience.

Jamsiek · 18-05-2013 06:33PM

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Loads. There's even a Gaelic football team here - the Madrid Harps. Plenty of English teaching jobs here (which is what I'm doing), so plenty of Irish came over.

Great to hear, my girlfriend is Spanish and is living in Canada with me and she tells me how bad things are there and that she doesn't want to go back.
I'm glad that there is work there, great country too

smurfjed · 18-05-2013 09:38PM

do not drink any alcohol there. Methanol poisoning continues to happen there and lots of types are tainted;

there are lots of legitimate places where you can enjoy real booze, but unfortunately in a country where a barman gets paid about €200 a month, the temptation to increase their income by selling fake booze is very strong.

I own a bar in that part of the world, to encourage the staff not to get involved in this sort of crap, we give them a share of the profits, so it's in their interest to make people feel safe.

Smurfjed

Final days before I travel

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