Re a United Ireland > Would you be in favour of a new Flag & a new National anthem?

LordSutch · 15-05-2013 04:14PM #1

If you thought a new flag and a new anthem would swing the Unionist population in Northern Ireland, would you contemplate having a new National anthem composed & a new all Ireland flag designed, (to woo the Unionists over the line) into a so called United Ireland?

Or would that be one step too far? see poll . . .

Conmaicne Mara · 15-05-2013 04:15PM

No.

chopperbyrne · 15-05-2013 04:16PM

Wouldn't care at all if the flag and anthem were changed tomorrow, but do not want a United Ireland until it won't cause massive financial instability to this country.

Northern Ireland is a money pit that the UK would gladly get rid of if they could.

hyperborean · 15-05-2013 04:17PM

More chuckie rubbish

Brego888 · 15-05-2013 04:18PM

Its irrelevant. A united Ireland is never going to happen.

DarkJager · 15-05-2013 04:18PM

No interest in having Northern Ireland as part of this country so no to your question.

Falthyron · 15-05-2013 04:18PM

Oh look! Another united Ireland thread.

Sub-forum needed, imo.

Latchy · 15-05-2013 04:19PM

I don't think any new national anthem is going to swing the unionists over to anything .These are people who are to far entrenched into who and what they are all about to change and anyhow , I'm still to fond of Amhrán na bhFiann .

davet82 · 15-05-2013 04:19PM

fcukin flags and anthems and the north...

should have its own forum at this stage

castletownman · 15-05-2013 04:20PM

Only if the new official anthem is the Sunday Game theme tune

Dr. Nooooo! · 15-05-2013 04:21PM

It depends on what they would be but I am inclined to say no, I like the national flag and anthem. Just sing the proper version with laochra fáil.

Chuck Stone · 15-05-2013 04:23PM

Wouldn't have a problem with it myself. Btw Unionists won't 'swing'. It'll be by weight of majority that will set the gears of unification in motion - the great majority of Unionists will not want it but their patrons in England will so they'll kinda have to accept it.

tony 2 tone · 15-05-2013 04:24PM

castletownman wrote: »

Only if the new official anthem is the Sunday Game theme tune

Or "Jump Around" by House of Pain, we can have Des Bishop do it in Irish too!

Lenin Skynard · 15-05-2013 04:24PM

Quite happy with both tbh. I'd hate the thought of having to stand up for something as tacky as "Ireland's Call"

JohnMarston · 15-05-2013 04:34PM

Dissapointed that no-one posted this yet

Fratton Fred · 15-05-2013 04:35PM

Let's face it, as much as people may love it and identify with it etc, the tri colour is a bit crap.

Surely this is a good chance to have something different and easily identifiable like a harp or a shamrock or something.

endacl · 15-05-2013 04:38PM

Could we have this as the new anthem pleeeeeeeeeezzzzzeee!!!

I don't care about the flag, but am passionate about this tune!

Witcher · 15-05-2013 04:39PM

There's meaning behind the Tricolour. I don't see the attraction of harps etc. when I think of my country I don't think of harps. People just want to change things for the sake of changing them or be progressive or some crap.

iDave · 15-05-2013 04:41PM

If you gave unionists a free Ferrari, 70 virgins each and let them have their hate filled Orange parades in Croke Park they still wouldnt join a United Ireland. They want to be British regardless of the cost and not only that they want to be more British than the British themselves, hence the flags issue.

OCorcrainn · 15-05-2013 04:43PM

I would, if it was something like the Four Provinces Flag and possibly a new anthem like 'A Nation Once Again' or 'Mise Éire' by Seán O Riada.

statesaver · 15-05-2013 04:46PM

Would agree with a new flag but not a new National Anthem.

Alot of people don't even know the colours of the flag. Have heard people say it's green, white and GOLD ffs. :eek:

Watching soccer matches and you'll see flags that look green, white and YELLOW ( maybe too many times in the wash )

So fuk it get a new one.

locum-motion · 15-05-2013 04:54PM

The whole point of the Tricolour is that it signifies the two traditions/communities on the island (Green for the 'Nationalists' and Orange for the 'Loyalists') and peace (White) between them. It is intended as a symbol of a nation that is inclusive. It says "If you want to be Irish, we welcome you into our fold."

That, to me, is a major reason to keep the flag if unification ever happens. It is my wish that if unification does occur, it should be inclusive and welcoming, and that we would all make an effort not to antagonise/alienate those that are a bit different to the majority.

The colours of the Tricolour have a meaning, and that meaning is worth keeping.

(That's why it annoys me when people of a certain political ideology call the flag 'Green, White and Gold' or fly versions of it with a pale, washed-out yellow/gold colour in the fly. It's Orange, and it's Orange for a reason.)

Sergeant · 15-05-2013 04:57PM

I'm teary-eyed with emotion at the thought of it. Seeing that flag flutter in the wind as my chest swells with nationalistic pride.

Duckworth_Luas · 15-05-2013 04:57PM

I guess it's more efficient to have the weekly national anthem thread, the weekly flag thread and the weekly united Ireland thread merged into one!

Nailz · 15-05-2013 05:11PM

To be fair, if there was ever to become a United Ireland, it should in no way effect the pre-existing national identity of the Republic Of Ireland; therefore a United Ireland would effectively become an extension of the republic. Otherwise it would just undermine the historical integrity of Ireland outside of the 6 counties.

It would be an interesting thing to see, but if anyone has to die over it or if it causes constant unrest then I'd rather see it not happen, the progress that has been made in the North on both sides has been great up until now and it would be a catastrophe to see that progress undone.

Max Manus · 15-05-2013 05:23PM

LordSutch wrote: »

If you thought a new flag and a new anthem would swing the Unionist population in Northern Ireland, would you contemplate having a new National anthem composed & a new all Ireland flag designed, (to woo the Unionists over the line) into a so called United Ireland?

Or would that be one step too far? see poll . . .

depends op, what's your agenda?

2ndcoming · 15-05-2013 05:27PM

A lot of the progress has been an acceptance of Irishness. I was in Belfast for the first time in about 15 years recently and there's a tangibly more Irish feel to the place.

There's even a Carroll's Gift Shop in the city centre, you would have been brave to work there 20 odd years ago.

That said, drove through Short Strand and needless to say there's a ways to go yet.

Agree with the earlier poster, the flag is symbolic of diversity in the first place.

A return to the original navy with gold harp would probably have Munster fans up in arms as much as Unionists anyway.

15-05-2013 05:46PM

locum-motion wrote: »

.....(That's why it annoys me when people of a certain political ideology call the flag 'Green, White and Gold'.....

What political ideology would that be? I hear lots of people, from all walks of life call the tricolour green, white & gold.

statesaver · 15-05-2013 05:50PM

Why would unionists be up in arms over the navy with gold harp flag when it's already on the British Royal Standard

ConstantJoe · 15-05-2013 05:50PM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

What political ideology would that be? I hear lots of people, from all walks of life call the tricolour green, white & gold.

Its not really a political ideology. It's just incorrect.

Fratton Fred · 15-05-2013 05:52PM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

What political ideology would that be? I hear lots of people, from all walks of life call the tricolour green, white & gold.

I think that was more an attempt by a certain archbishop to make the flag green for Ireland with the white and gold of the papal flag rather than any political party or persuasion.

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