Ouija boards

Scrummyscrammy wrote: »

This is my experience with Ouija boards.

This happened over 25 years ago but I will never forget it. I had heard my younger brother and sister going on about the Ouija board and how it really worked. I was sceptical and not really interested. One evening I came home and heard noise upstairs. I went upstairs to my bedroom and my brother and sister were messing about with the board and claiming that they had summonsed up a spirit. Sure enough the coin they were using as a marker was moving from letter to letter and spelling out words when they asked the 'spirit' a question.

I wasn't impressed, convinced that they were subconsciously moving the coin to spell out the words they wanted. So I asked them if I could join the board, but first I wanted to blindfold them so that I could be sure that they were not moving the coin around the board. They agreed, so I blindfolded them with dark scarves. I also got them to look in the opposite direction of the board even though they were blindfolded just to be sure they could not manipulate the movements of the marker. They asked the board could I join. Unbelievably, the coin moved to YES:eek:. They could not see the coin, they were blindfolded AND looking away from the table. When I placed my finger on the coin my brother continued to ask questions. I instantly felt the coin pull as if magnetically attracted to the next letter on the board. I closed my eyes to assure myself that i wasn't the one using my subconscious to spell out a word. Every time the coin stopped I opened my eyes to see that it landed right on top of a letter. The coin would move again, I would close my eyes, only open them when the coin stopped and this continued until a word was spelled out. I looked over at my brother and sister they were still blindfolded and facing in the opposite direction to the board.

The thing is , I was the sceptic. I really didn't want the board to work. I wanted to prove that it was bull****. But it did work. We had summonsed up the spirit on an Indian boy who was killed off a bicycle in 1956. We had a very interesting conversation with him. He was a bit of a prankster but a friendly spirit. The problem with the board is that you don't know if the spirit you contact will be friendly or not. If the spirit is evil and it does not grant you permission to leave the board then you have invited an awful lot of trouble into your life. It happened my sister a few weeks later. The spirit would not let her leave the board. Eventually she just walked away but our house was possessed every night until the board was buried. It's such a traumatic memory we never bring it up as adults.

So for those of you that think that the Ouija board is just a toy, think again. It has opened my mind to the possibility that there is another dimension, something more that what we experience in this life, I am grateful for that. At the same time I say to anyone who is tempted to try it....tread carefully.

Mental illness should not be left untreated.

Hownowcow wrote: »

Just to be clear, when you say "it" you mean?

it, the incident of us doing the Ouija board in school.

The Penn & teller bull**** episode on Ouija explanes the nonsense of the Ouija board very well.

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Now that's just ridiculous. You're making no sense. Believe in evil? Evil is an act. A descriptive word. Nothing to do with spirits. Well at least not the spirits you're referring too.

Religion is not synonymous with evil.

FYI
oxymoron |ˌäksəˈmôrˌän|
noun
a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction (e.g., faith unfaithful kept him falsely true).

There are many many testimonies of ex-Ouija board users like myself and ex-Satanists, thankfully not like myself. Don't rule this out check it out but be careful.

Do you believe in such a thing as love? or to you is it just a feeling, well sometimes when love is pushed aside then evil can replace that, you will not see it but it will fill the void and bad things can happen. Replace evil with love, God is Love its like replacing the dark with light.

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

I'd stay away from the things. Nothing good comes from messing around with things like that, whether you believe in them or not.

I said the same to Mary Harney about dildos...wouldn't listen.

if you really want a bit of danger in your games...

Twister & Baby oil

Or Buckaroo & Crystal Meth.

As my Dad used to say, 'never dabble in the unknown'. Wise words, I'd be too scared to mess with a Ouija board for fear of what could happen. I do believe in the spirit world so no, I wouldn't go there.

Can you only contact spirits who speak English? If I contacted a French spirit, would the the glass spell out words in French, or would the magic dust they put into every box at the factory translate his spooky messages into English?
Could I contact a caveman with a ouija board?

Goody2Shoes77 wrote: »

As my Dad used to say, 'never dabble in the unknown'. Wise words, I'd be too scared to mess with a Ouija board for fear of what could happen. I do believe in the spirit world so no, I wouldn't go there.

Take that, scientific and philosophical enquiry!!

indy_man wrote: »

There are many many testimonies of ex-Ouija board users like myself and ex-Satanists, thankfully not like myself. Don't rule this out check it out but be careful.

Unfortunately the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'.

There have been numerous tests done on ouija boards; it is the ideomotor effect and your subconscious, coupled with suggestibility.

My grand uncle used a Ouija board as a kid and died 60 years later. Spooky! :eek:

HardLuckWoman wrote: »

Is she freaking out over nothing? Has anyone ever used these boards.

It would appear so. There is nothing I know of to think that such a board game... which is essentially all it is.... is any different to any other board game like Monopoly for example.

What people think cardboard and plastic cut into shapes and colored all pretty is going to do to them or for them... I really do not know. But I guess we should not underestimate the common human urge for self delusion.

Wade in the Sea wrote: »

I am more inclined to look for reasonable explanations but there weren't any.

Failing to find an explanation does not mean there was not any. It just means you failed to find one.

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

I'd stay away from the things. Nothing good comes from messing around with things like that, whether you believe in them or not.

Depends what you mean by "good". It... like any board game... is made for entertainment, to pass some time, and to allow group activity with others. I would define these things as "Good". It therefore does just as much "good" as any board game.

indy_man wrote: »

Doing this can lead to possession, mental illness and all sorts of trouble.

Unless "stupidity" and "gullibility" are being classes as a mental illness now, the above would appear to be nonsense.

indy_man wrote: »

If you don't believe in evil, evil can do what ever it wants to you.

Ah the old "I have no evidence to back up what I am saying so I will resort to ominous threats against those who do not believe me" trick. Nice.

indy_man wrote: »

You believe there is night and day, a magnetic north and south no doubt, hot and cold, then how about good and evil which are complete opposites.

They are, however, merely subjective labels for behaviors we personally classify under them. If you think "evil" exists you would have to be a lot clearer on what you actually mean by that.

jeni wrote: »

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convince the world he doesnt exist

Nothing like an empty and meaningless slogan to move conversation forward huh?

indy_man wrote: »

There are many many testimonies

There is even some on this thread. Such as Scrummyscrammy above. But unverifiable likely wholly made up anecdote by faceless and nameless forum posters is not likely to be convincing to anyone at all except those already convinced.

indy_man wrote: »

Do you believe in such a thing as love? or to you is it just a feeling

I believe it is a feeling. It is a collective term used to describe a collection of feelings/emotions we experience under certain stimuli. Nothing more.

newsunglasses wrote: »

there are some disturbed souls out there,some of it is your own belief and some of it is not.

There are some disturbed people out there I agree. If you mean there are dead people still actually alive somewhere and they are disturbed.... then I see literally nothing at all to suggest that is anything but your fantasy.

irishgirl19 wrote: »

I know I wasn't moving it.

I always get suspicious when threads of this nature have people declaring they just "Know" they are right.

I once watched this in person. Someone I know was preparing to go about their day and they looked in their bag for their keys. They were not there. Going about other things said person found their keys and without thinking put them in the bag. It was such an automatic response it was done entirely subconsciously.

A few minutes later said person resumed the hunt for the keys. Of course they did not find them. Eventually I tested and said “Try your bag again” and sure enough there was the keys. Said person is always superstitious so instantly out came all the “I _know_ I they were not there” “I _know_ I did not put them there” “I _know_ something is in this house doing this and moving things about”.

The difference of course is I SAW this in action. I know how the keys got there. I watched it happen. With unverifiable anecdotes like YOURS however I was not there but I have seen people being just as convinced as you… some to the point of turning violent at the mere suggestion they are wrong…. That they “know” something unexplainable happened. Even when I was sitting right there and I saw how it happened. They "know" it as much as they "know" their own name. Entirely and unmovably certain of something demonstrably false.

As with the user above I think unverifiable nonsense and probably even wholesale invented anecdote is likely to be entirely useless to everyone except those who are already converts.

newsunglasses wrote: »

I believe that we are spirits,and all have souls,you can choose not to believe in all that and call it hocus pocus if you like.

Nope. I can not "choose" to believe something or not believe it. If you hand me an empty box I can not "choose" to believe there is a pile of money in it. Belief is not a choice for me. If it is for YOU then so be it, but it certainly is not for me.

The reason I do not believe there are souls and ghosts and spirits is nothing to do with "choice" and everything to do with the fact that people like you are not providing the first shred of argument, evidence, data or reasoning to substantiate your claims.

In 2013 it's actually saddening that we're giving something as ludicrous as Ouija boards any shred of consideration isn't it? It's just ridiculous. If anyone can show me actual, verifiable evidence of them working I'll happily submit myself as a guinea pig and summon every last evil into this world. That'd be bad ass.

Have any of you guys tried capes? I wore a cape and I could fly the other day. Don't try this though as it is very dangerous and you shouldn't meddle with nonsense you don't understand and doesn't actually exist.

As for believing in good and evil: they are totally artificial concepts people have invented and they vary madly from person to person and culture to culture. They are dependently originated: big doesn’t mean anything without a comparative small, and a big house is a lot bigger than a big car... and so on. We created these concepts and they only exist with another frame of reference. We have inherent morals against murder, foul play, unfair behaviour but I doubt we would agree on any of the minutiae. Comparing human emotions, electro chemical reactions in our brains to the souls of the undead speaking to people through a board game is the ramblings of a mad man.

s'whats the story then with the tarot cards - are these just as evil - are you supposed to burn them to get rid of them or something. Are they as evil as the 'snap' or 'poker' deck of cards. :P