The Beatles.

nocoverart · 11-05-2013 04:20PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

Bland bland music,especially from the perspective of that era.Basically the one direction of the 60's,but everybody thinks its "cool" to like the Beatles hence their constant re-emergence.

Thank you!

The most overrated of all the overrated dribble forced upon us. The original boy band each manufactured with a certain character and look to target teenage girls.

So not much has changed then... Sh1tty POP songs with sh1tty lyrics.

suicide_circus · 11-05-2013 04:29PM

they were no def leppard

Mr Tibbs · 11-05-2013 04:41PM

darced wrote: »

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You need to change the batteries in your hearing aid the as ones your using now were probably made by a Simon Cowel company.

losthorizon · 11-05-2013 04:52PM

When people used to compare Oasis/Blur to the Beatles/Stones rivalry I used to laugh for various reasons but I always did think if were comparing bands that Blur were actually much more like The Kinks than the Beatles.

mathepac · 11-05-2013 04:55PM

mitosis wrote: »

Rickenbacker 360....

Apologies.

mitosis wrote: »

... Their influence is overplayed. ...

I'd say it's little understood as I tried to get across briefly in my first post. For example, they gave the Rolling Stanes their first UK hit single. I mean "gave" in a literal sense. John & Paul finished the composition in the Stones' recording studio en route to a function.

mitosis wrote: »

... If it wasn't them it'd have been somebody else ...

Highly unlikely IMHO.

mathepac · 11-05-2013 05:04PM

losthorizon wrote: »

... to the Beatles/Stones rivalry I used to laugh for various reasons ...

Hopefully one of the reason is that there never was any such rivalry. The bands and individual members were good pals back then hanging out together and the Stones appeared on The Beatles' "All You Need Is Love" trans-European simulcast back in the day, visited France, Antigua and Ireland together where "You could be jus' like a regulah geezah dahn the pub, maite, know wot I mean?" to quote Bill Wyman before he recorded "I Wheeze Like A Rock Star".

losthorizon · 11-05-2013 05:10PM

sadly I bought Je suis un rock star

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYHZUlf_z6o

darced · 11-05-2013 05:17PM

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mitosis · 11-05-2013 05:33PM

mathepac wrote: »

they gave the Rolling Stanes their first UK hit single.

I think you'll find that also is mistaken.

Their first hit, "Come on" was a Chuck Berry song. Their second hit was indeed an LMcC composition.

Nichololas · 11-05-2013 05:36PM

I think the Beatles really perfected rock with 'Paint it Black'

kirb42 · 11-05-2013 05:49PM

A very fruitful and prolific 7 years... I'd say

Original UK LPs
Please Please Me (1963)
With the Beatles (1963)
A Hard Day's Night (1964)
Beatles for Sale (1964)
Help! (1965)
Rubber Soul (1965)
Revolver (1966)
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967)
The Beatles (1968)
Yellow Submarine (1969)
Abbey Road (1969)
Let It Be (1970)

orestes · 11-05-2013 05:51PM

"I'm not really a fan of the Beatles. I know they did a lot for music and they changed music forever, I don't dislike them or anything, I just never really took to them."

"WHAT?! You just don't really appreciate them properly. Here, I'll explain it to you...."

Every. Fukking. Time.

enfant terrible · 11-05-2013 05:59PM

Sacksian wrote: »

Obviously, this makes no sense.

They played all their instruments, wrote all their songs and their records brought a host of innovative recording/production techniques to the mainstream.

All the innovative recording/production techniques were down to George Martin not the Beatles who to be fair created pretty rubbish music till they met him.

kirb42 · 11-05-2013 06:00PM

orestes wrote: »

"I'm not really a fan of the Beatles. I know they did a lot for music and they changed music forever, I don't dislike them or anything, I just never really took to them."

"WHAT?! You just don't really appreciate them properly. Here, I'll explain it to you...."

Every. Fukking. Time.

Simple really....its all about the melody.... you either hear it, or you dont...:)

Kerplunk124 · 11-05-2013 06:07PM

They ripped off The Be Sharps

Gorilla Rising · 11-05-2013 06:14PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

The yardbirds,Cream,Led Zeppelin,Hendrix,Bob dylan,The who,The velvet underground,the allman brothers,the byrds,john coltrane,john mayalls bluesbreakers,simon and garfunkel.You could go on and on.

This post is laughable.

You've simply rattled off a few bands you prefer and a few you deem obscure enough to make it appear you know what you're talking about.

It can easily be argued that the likes of Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley and Little Richard were much bigger influences (along with the Beatles) thatnwhat you've named, with the exception of John Coltrane.

LordSutch · 11-05-2013 06:32PM

The Beatles (with George Martin at the controls) > Utterly groundbreaking, setting the standard for decades to come.

The perfect mix of voices & personalities to conquer the pop world of the 60s (US inc), with a burning passion that would ensure they burnt
themselves out within a decade, and that's exactly what happened, but what a catalogue of songs they left behind! Never to be surpassed.

trouttrout · 11-05-2013 06:35PM

Love the Beatles, but imo Odyssey and Oracle by The Zombies is the best album of that period. Absolutely sublime

smurgen · 11-05-2013 06:51PM

Their music is good but I hate john Lennon and Paul McCartney as people. John Lennon was full of ****,singing songs about peace and love while beating the crap out of his wife behind closed doors.it makes my blood boil when I see dopey saps celebrating him like he was the massiah.Paul mccartney then is just a smug money grabbing old cut throsy.

entropi · 11-05-2013 06:56PM

Never liked anything I've heard from them. I've heard the "but you do realise what they brought to music, right?" argument quite a few times, but I won't be drawn into a pointless lecture about why I should like them. Just like many other people, I'll never like them/their music.

losthorizon · 11-05-2013 07:11PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

All the innovative recording/production techniques were down to George Martin not the Beatles who to be fair created pretty rubbish music till they met him.

George Martin produced loads of other singers and bands. If he was that much a genius and changed them that much how come he never changed his other acts so much? Don't get me wrong I think he was hugely influential on the Beatles but people get infatuated on him.

He didn't do much with Cilla Black now did he?

I like the Group America but I wouldn't call the production revolutionary.

Obviously for any neutral observer it was The Beatles themselves which made all the difference which I am sure George Martin himself would acknowledge.

enfant terrible · 11-05-2013 07:17PM

losthorizon wrote: »

George Martin produced loads of other singers and bands. If he was that much a genius and changed them that much how come he never changed his other acts so much? Don't get me wrong I think he was hugely influential on the Beatles but people get infatuated on him.

He didn't do much with Cilla Black now did he?

I like the Group America but I wouldn't call the production revolutionary.

Obviously for any neutral observer it was The Beatles themselves which made all the difference which I am sure George Martin himself would acknowledge.

So you think its a coincidence they went from creating rubbish music to great music the day they started working with George Martin?

losthorizon · 11-05-2013 07:59PM

trouttrout wrote: »

Love the Beatles, but imo Odyssey and Oracle by The Zombies is the best album of that period. Absolutely sublime

Keep pointing this out to people but some idiot in the printing presses at the time spelled Odyssey wrong. So off it went and thousands were printed with the wrong spelling. Finally someone noticed it and they thought it was a clever pun or something but as the band members later admitted it was just an error which still remains on the cover today

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Odessey_and_Oracle.jpg

Except for Time of the season and a few other songs they never really did it for me. Their music was too timid or something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqnuI9K5ct4

losthorizon · 11-05-2013 08:32PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

So you think its a coincidence they went from creating rubbish music to great music the day they started working with George Martin?

If I remember correctly they were in Hamburg before they made a record and played a huge amount of gigs honing their craft and getting laid.

When they came back they played a load more gigs at places like The Cavern.
They actually hadn't written many songs at this stage. They were still very young. Plus they left Sutcliffe behind in Hamburg

They were hugely proficient before they met Martin but they never made an album until martin came along so what rubbish music are you referring to.

kraggy · 11-05-2013 08:40PM

Allergic to them.

mathepac · 11-05-2013 08:52PM

mitosis wrote: »

... Their first hit, "Come on" was a Chuck Berry song. Their second hit was indeed an LMcC composition.

First UK Top 20 hit then. Nothing like being kept honest

cena · 11-05-2013 09:50PM

My mother was John Lennon's nanny for there kids when she lived in New York.
Not A word of a lie

Latchy · 11-05-2013 10:47PM

The extremes of Beatlmania didn't do them them any favours and they would be to first t to admit at the height of their fame ,they were 'Beatled to death ' by the whole mop top image .It's always been popular in some circles over the decades to say how over rated they were while forgetting how many bands reference and admit to them being a major influence

As for the music itself ...

There is no denying they wrote some great songs with amazing chord structures ,verse, bridge, chorus and some of their vocals and harmonizing on the first 7 albums Please Please Me , With the Beatles, A Hard Day's Night, Beatles For Sale, Help ,Rubber Soul and Revolver is simply first class

The last 6 albums Sgt Pepper ,Yellow Submarine ,Magical Mystery Tour ,White Album ,Abbey Road and Let It Be show how much they had progresed
and matured as studio musicians who wern't just a '3 chord trick ' band.

I'm a Beatles fan although I'm never been enamoured by the nasty side of John Lennons personality .

TheUsual · 11-05-2013 10:58PM

The shi-tty Beatles. Love em.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPIpeW581rE

e_e · 11-05-2013 11:01PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

Bland bland music,especially from the perspective of that era.Basically the one direction of the 60's,but everybody thinks its "cool" to like the Beatles hence their constant re-emergence.

So what are One Direction's equivalent songs to Helter Skelter, A Day in the Life and Tomorrow Never Knows?

The Beatles.

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