The Beatles.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 11-05-2013 12:07PM #1

I know we can't have music or sport in Ah's but I feel the Beatles had a cultural impact on this island.

What's you're opinion of them? I was brought up on Beatles so I'm some what biased, my father was and is still a big fan, they obviously played off the Everly Brothers and Buddy Holly, the genesis of pop music, but I feel at the same time that they created something very unique. Even today you can hear their influence, the verse, bridge, chorus.

ChunkyLover_53 · 11-05-2013 12:09PM

They inspired those sh1tty overlap haircuts everyone had in the 90s (and will probably have again in 5 years.)

stefan idiot jones · 11-05-2013 12:11PM

If you like the Beatles and Metallica, check out Beatallica. They are really good at what they do.

James Hatfield doing Lennon.

lahalane · 11-05-2013 12:13PM

I think they are underrated. Something like 25% of people would consider them the best band ever, it should be twice that percentage.

*Facts and figures totally made up

longshanks · 11-05-2013 12:15PM

Any band who can come up with Here Comes the Sun, Helter Skelter, and Hey Jude (and that's just songs beginning with H) are Legends in my book.

Celly Smunt · 11-05-2013 12:16PM

Bland bland music,especially from the perspective of that era.Basically the one direction of the 60's,but everybody thinks its "cool" to like the Beatles hence their constant re-emergence.

Sacksian · 11-05-2013 12:17PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I know we can't have music or sport in Ah's but I feel the Beatles had a cultural impact on this island.

What's you're opinion of them? I was brought up on Beatles so I'm some what biased, my father was and is still a big fan, they obviously played off the Everly Brothers and Buddy Holly, the genesis of pop music, but I feel at the same time that they created something very unique. Even today you can hear their influence, the verse, bridge, chorus.

Steady on, they didn't invent the song.

(Although they were massively influential for almost all modern pop music.)

crockholm · 11-05-2013 12:19PM

ChunkyLover_53 wrote: »

They inspired those sh1tty overlap haircuts everyone had in the 90s (and will probably have again in 5 years.)

Haha:D I had one of them as a dopey teenager,it united the ravers and the grungers, but I wasn't sure of what it was called and asked the barber for an"upper-cut":pac:

The old man is/was into them,but they have so few songs that I like,so I'm a bit baffled by their aura.

Sacksian · 11-05-2013 12:21PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

Bland bland music,especially from the perspective of that era.Basically the one direction of the 60's,but everybody thinks its "cool" to like the Beatles hence their constant re-emergence.

Obviously, this makes no sense.

They played all their instruments, wrote all their songs and their records brought a host of innovative recording/production techniques to the mainstream.

The Beatles are by no means my favourite band but only an ignoramus would refuse to acknowledge their influence (cultural and musical) on a massive % of popular music that followed them.

uncle_sam_ie · 11-05-2013 12:23PM

lahalane wrote: »

I think they are underrated. Something like 25% of people would consider them the best band ever, it should be twice that percentage.

*Facts and figures totally made up

If anything they were overrated. There were a lot better bands in the sixties.

Celly Smunt · 11-05-2013 12:24PM

Sacksian wrote: »

Obviously, this makes no sense.

They played all their instruments, wrote all their songs and their records brought a host of innovative recording/production techniques to the mainstream.

The Beatles are by no means my favourite band but only an ignoramus would refuse to acknowledge their influence (cultural and musical) on a massive % of popular music that followed them.

I will reply to this when I get on my laptop,its not that crystal clear,also there were bigger influences in terms of recording.

Grayditch · 11-05-2013 12:24PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

Bland bland music,especially from the perspective of that era.Basically the one direction of the 60's,but everybody thinks its "cool" to like the Beatles hence their constant re-emergence.

There's a huge amount of people I know who think it's cool to not like the Beatles, despite not knowing much of their music.

Music is subjective, so these threads never end with anything conclusive, but I do find it weird that some people can't find ONE Beatles song they like, considering their library and influence on other music.

KungPao · 11-05-2013 12:24PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

Bland bland music,especially from the perspective of that era.Basically the one direction of the 60's,but everybody thinks its "cool" to like the Beatles hence their constant re-emergence.

Ah here!

I think that was the Monkees.

FloatingVoter · 11-05-2013 12:24PM

The toppermost of the poppermost. Its just a pity Lennon faked his own death and is now selling poitin on the Aran Islands.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 11-05-2013 12:25PM

ChunkyLover_53 wrote: »

They inspired those sh1tty overlap haircuts everyone had in the 90s (and will probably have again in 5 years.)

Some of us slug through the lean times with Beatles/Oasis haircuts. A pare of shades and a styled cut and you look like a made man.:cool:

Celly Smunt · 11-05-2013 12:29PM

Grayditch wrote: »

There's a huge amount of people I know who think it's cool to not like the Beatles, despite not knowing much of their music.

Music is subjective, so these threads never end with anything conclusive, but I do find it weird that some people can't find ONE Beatles song they like, considering their library and influence on other music.

Influencing other music is such a broad term,they were far from being the catalyst for everything that followed.

Bipolar Joe · 11-05-2013 12:29PM

On the whole, I don't really like them. I'm sure at the time it was amazing, the emergence of pop music and from that maybe even pop culture. I do like the weirder side, full of nonsense lyrics and playing with sound. Original fans must have thought they were being trolled. The fixed loop in the run-off, that sort of stuff.

Mr Tibbs · 11-05-2013 12:34PM

Some of the Beatles music will live on in years to come just like the classics are around today. I'm always glad I was around at the height of their fame although being vey young the impact of their music was everywhere in the sixties. I think !967 and 1968 were the greatest years for classic pop music with so many great songs in the charts all trying to better what the Beatles were doing and some actually did.
Thats not saying that the music of today is not as good, there are some great songs around today but now with so many radio stations we hear so much of it . Its funny though when you hear a song that was very popular a few years ago after not hearing it for a while you realise how good that song really was.
I guess we always associate music with pleasant memories and for me the Beatles bring back very happy childhood memories of a very happy time way back in the sixties.

uncle_sam_ie · 11-05-2013 12:35PM

The Beatles and Elvis are like Apple computers of their time. They just popularize what was already out there at the time. But, I don't dislike their music. Abbey Road is one of my favorite albums

Death and Taxes · 11-05-2013 12:37PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I know we can't have music or sport in Ah's but I feel the Beatles had a cultural impact on this island.

What cultural impact did they have here?

Bipolar Joe · 11-05-2013 12:38PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

What cultural impact did they have here?

We all have stupid hair.

EDIT: Apart from mine. My locks are many, luscious and flowing.

.jacksparrow. · 11-05-2013 12:39PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

I will reply to this when I get on my laptop,its not that crystal clear,also there were bigger influences in terms of recording.

Photoshopping one direction with guitars in their hands is not allowed.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 11-05-2013 12:40PM

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

On the whole, I don't really like them. I'm sure at the time it was amazing, the emergence of pop music and from that maybe even pop culture. I do like the weirder side, full of nonsense lyrics and playing with sound. Original fans must have thought they were being trolled. The fixed loop in the run-off, that sort of stuff.

They used to write non sensical lyrics and laugh when some college professor tried to interpretate them, take I Am the Walrus for instance.

They experimented with different sounds and styles, that's where they stood out for me, they evolved as a band over time.

Grayditch · 11-05-2013 12:41PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

Influencing other music is such a broad term,they were far from being the catalyst for everything that followed.

I would presume people knew I didn't mean ALL other music.

They were heavily influential, that's not even up for discussion, with the amount of people through the years that cite them as an influence.

lahalane · 11-05-2013 12:42PM

uncle_sam_ie wrote: »

If anything they were overrated. There were a lot better bands in the sixties.

I was being very sarcastic...I obviously don't think they are underrated but I don't think they are overrated either. They're just rated I guess

Bipolar Joe · 11-05-2013 12:43PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

They used to write non sensical lyrics and laugh when some college professor tried to interpretate them, take I Am the Walrus for instance.

They experimented with different sounds and styles, that's where they stood out for me, they evolved as a band over time.

I read a story that "I Am The Walrus" was written after a kid wrote Lennon and told him his teacher was using Beatles lyrics for analysis in class. True troll.

Duckworth_Luas · 11-05-2013 12:43PM

The Best of the Beatles was a fairly good album.

Still, they're no Wings who were only the band the Beatles could have been!

DEFTLEFTHAND · 11-05-2013 12:46PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

What cultural impact did they have here?

They had a lasting impact on popular music and influenced Irish bands who came in their wake, Beatlemania of course also struck Ireland when they played the Adelphi.

They also influenced fashion and style amongst the young people of the time.

11-05-2013 01:04PM

They're alright, don't care that much about them

Wibbs · 11-05-2013 01:17PM

uncle_sam_ie wrote: »

If anything they were overrated. There were a lot better bands in the sixties.

Name one. Seriously. And please not the Stones. The Kinks had their moments to be fair. Beachboys? hugely influential, not least on the Beatles themselves(they looked to them as real competition, barely regarded bands like the Stones as within spitting distance) Largely imploded when their musical genius went batshít crazy(he cites one reason as stress from trying to match Sgt Pepper). The Doors? Eh... no, just no. Anyway if you can name another 60's band that had that much of an affect on popular music I'd love to hear them.

uncle_sam_ie wrote: »

The Beatles and Elvis are like Apple computers of their time. They just popularize what was already out there at the time.

Whatever about Elvis, that's a much harder sell regarding the moptops. By the time the retired to the studio(and even before with Revolver) they were doing stuff that no one else was. They were bringing in influences from church music and eastern music and rather than blindly copying were incorporating them into popular music. EG Jealous guy(written by Lennon while in the Beatles, but rejected at the time), is almost entirely pentatonic ie "eastern" in scale, but doesn't sound like Ravi Shankar. I am the Walrus was mentioned, that yoke as has something daft like 12 chord changes in the intro before he even sings a note. Tomorrow never knows is another one that is soooo far beyond what others were even dreaming of it's not funny. It's almost like the Chemical brothers got in a time machine back to 1966. And that's just Lennons songs. Macca was not exactly idle at the old songwriting.

And bear in mind something all too easy to forget these days when bands retire to the Bahamas to record an album and take 3 or 4 years to do so, the Beatles entire recording career of something like 12 albums a few singles a year(most of which weren't on the current album at the time) and a couple of EP's was achieved in seven years. Each album a step forward from their last, often a major one. In seven years. All done by 30 years of age. From the song Help to Tomorrow never knows is just six months. Scarily creative individuals and like em or loathe them giants of the arts of the 20th century.

Celly Smunt · 11-05-2013 01:23PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Name one. Seriously. And please not the Stones. The Kinks had their moments to be fair. Beachboys? hugely influential, not least on the Beatles themselves(they looked to them as real competition, barely regarded bands like the Stones as within spitting distance) Largely imploded when their musical genius went batshít crazy(he cites one reason as stress from trying to match Sgt Pepper). The Doors? Eh... no, just no. Anyway if you can name another 60's band that had that much of an affect on popular music I'd love to hear them.

The yardbirds,Cream,Led Zeppelin,Hendrix,Bob dylan,The who,The velvet underground,the allman brothers,the byrds,john coltrane,john mayalls bluesbreakers,simon and garfunkel.You could go on and on.

The Beatles.

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