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Bangernomics car of the week/day part III

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭DAZP93


    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4986099

    Worth that all day long, although no mention of tax or mileage. My old man has an identical one (Avantgarde body) and it still looks great when polished up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭Muckie


    bijou wrote: »
    I know I've asked previously about Chevrolet's but anyone have any thoughts on this one??

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4981432

    Always think of Chevrolets as cool American cars...

    these aren't cool...be very weary of rebadged Daewoo's...awful, awful

    cars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,146 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    bijou wrote: »
    I know I've asked previously about Chevrolet's but anyone have any thoughts on this one??

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4981432

    Two years NCT, relatively modern and reliable car. Come on that has to be good value. I don't even know anything about those cars and I'd wager you'd get years driving out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,578 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    pretty awful but where else would you get a 8 year old car with full service history and 2 years NCT for about €1,500?

    Edit - Alan beat me to it :D

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    bijou wrote: »
    I know I've asked previously about Chevrolet's but anyone have any thoughts on this one??

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4981432

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    Anybody?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭DAZP93


    CianRyan wrote: »
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    Anybody?

    Which one is the Type-R? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    I think it's the top one, I've forgotten.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭bijou


    Muckie wrote: »
    be very weary of rebadged Daewoo's...awful, awful

    cars.

    Yeah I wondered about re-badging. I noticed the rear of this has a Chevy badge and the front has a Daewoo badge. :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,978 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    CianRyan wrote: »
    Anybody?

    I wouldn't insult the Honda by comparing it to that tat. Both colourless is really all the similarities


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭dbrunson


    bijou wrote: »
    Yeah I wondered about re-badging. I noticed the rear of this has a Chevy badge and the front has a Daewoo badge. :confused:


    IN 05 when the daewoo / chevrolet rebadge happened, the dealers were sent badges in order to reband the inhouse stock, the rear badge was a piece of piss to change , i think the front needed a new grill , whoever sold this must not have bothered doing the front, also the steering wheel will be daewoo badged, these cars also need a belt every 36k, so factor into purchase price.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭faral


    Muckie wrote: »
    Always think of Chevrolets as cool American cars...

    these aren't cool...be very weary of rebadged Daewoo's...awful, awful

    cars.
    chevrolet cool?joke
    this chevrolet from ad is very simple yet reliable car and for 1750 you cant go wrong


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,978 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    NCT till Aug, 600

    Diesel :cool:
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,773 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    Long test ( and I checked that it actually said 2014 this time :p:p). Good deal if you get it for €1000ish :)

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/5001782

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭166man


    dgt wrote: »
    NCT till Aug, 600

    Diesel :cool:
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    I'd say she has some whack of miles on her alright. Could be a 60k miler one lady owner though....:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,773 ✭✭✭Ded_Zebra


    Nice spec, looks clean, low miles and long test. Asking €1,300

    http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/5004232

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,578 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    If the seller calls it "a bargain for €1,300" I don't think you'd get a lot off. Old skool (uneconomical) diesel (50MPG me hole), manual and 2.5l tax and 17 years old. I'd say it's sale proof :D

    (I'd drive it though :D)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,578 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    '05 Saab 9-5 Diesel, leather, auto - €1,950 asking price

    Taxed and NCTd until the end of the month, but if the owner tests it now and it passes it will be valid until end May '15

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,978 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    Er....Linky? :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,525 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    unkel wrote: »
    '05 Saab 9-5 Diesel, leather, auto - €1,950 asking price

    Taxed and NCTd until the end of the month, but if the owner tests it now and it passes it will be valid until end May '15

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    That's a big assumption, it would imo be safer to assume at face value that the seller has no intention of putting a fresh NCT on it in which case it's not bangernomics. If everyone made assumptions like that in this thread there would be some sh1t heaps in here imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,578 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    '03 Volvo S60 leather, NCT July, asking €900. Has got to be worth a punt for someone who is confident it will pass the NCT without expensive work

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    5 cylinder turbo petrol goodness and still only 2l tax

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,578 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    That's a big assumption

    Indeed it is. I'd either get the owner to NCT it and I'll agree a tested price with him beforehand (close enough to asking price to keep him keen :D), or I would have the car very thoroughly checked by my trusted mechanic. If it passes the NCT it would be a great bargain!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,525 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    unkel wrote: »
    Indeed it is. I'd either get the owner to NCT it and I'll agree a tested price with him beforehand (close enough to asking price to keep him keen :D), or I would have the car very thoroughly checked by my trusted mechanic. If it passes the NCT it would be a great bargain!

    If every sale went like that there would be some bargains to be had :) It all sounds great in theory but in practice I can't see the owner getting the NCT done for you and as good as your mechanic may be, he can't tell you for sure if it will pass or fail as he hasn't the same equipment as the NCT to test the car on. He will only be able to hazzard a guess based on his assesment of the car so you will still be taking a risk.

    Now maybe it's a genuine car and as you say if it had an NCT it would be a bargain, but at the moment it really has no NCT and isn't really a bangernomics car until it has imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,978 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    NCT doesn't guarantee it's a decent car..... Condition all the way..... ;)

    Alas, those are my rules and not the rules of the thread!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,578 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    isn't really a bangernomics car until it has imo.

    Agreed again :)

    I wouldn't even consider buying it until I had it either tested or the green light from my mechanic (he really is rather good and the NCT would be envious of his equipment ;))

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    The interior could do with a clean and the background on the pics look like a breakers yard, still good value motoring though IMO. http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4796915

    airbag light on and trade plate on the passenger seat doing it no favours either. as you say though, get it for 750 and drive it into the ground, would do the finest :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,525 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    dgt wrote: »
    NCT doesn't guarantee it's a decent car..... Condition all the way..... ;)

    Alas, those are my rules and not the rules of the thread!

    Agree with you 100% on that, obviously condition is paramount but for a bangernomics car a fresh NCT makes sense as it will give the buyer piece of mind that they are buying a car which is in some way road worthy. It also makes the purchase price a bit more value for money as the buyer won't have to worry about pumping money into the car to make it pass a test.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,978 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    Agree with you 100% on that, obviously condition is paramount but for a bangernomics car a fresh NCT makes sense as it will give the seller piece of mind that they are buying a car which is in some way road worthy. It also makes the purchase price a bit more value for money as the buyer won't have to worry about pumping money into the car to make it pass a test.

    At the end of the day service history, NCT, receipts mean nothing to me. Call me strange, but that's how I work and I rarely end up with a total grapefruit. Don't get me wrong it's nice to have and all that but it doesn't tell me how the car has been driven, what condition those parts are in, has it been minded correctly etc.

    Most times they will have. They check out. But you can get caught out ;)

    I prefer cars with little or no NCT as I'll get them for peanuts and I know for sure it'll need work. I use it as a bargaining chip, I try to stick with the same make for my main hack if I can

    My own hack was still driving about as a daily with 2 months NCT when I bought it, with no turbo and in dire need of suspension components. Owner was a gent, got the impression he looked after the car well, serviced it to perfection. I realised after I'd sorted those issues that it was then burning oil at an alarming rate and thus I swapped the engine (I'm guessing worn valve seats but until I tear it down it's speculation). No major issues since

    Fail to prepare, prepare to fail ;)

    Think not of it as an OT post but an insight into how one boardsie works


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭166man


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    If every sale went like that there would be some bargains to be had :) It all sounds great in theory but in practice I can't see the owner getting the NCT done for you and as good as your mechanic may be, he can't tell you for sure if it will pass or fail as he hasn't the same equipment as the NCT to test the car on. He will only be able to hazzard a guess based on his assesment of the car so you will still be taking a risk.

    Now maybe it's a genuine car and as you say if it had an NCT it would be a bargain, but at the moment it really has no NCT and isn't really a bangernomics car until it has imo.

    Kind of contradicting yourself here John. I brought up the exact point you're bringing up now about a car needing an NCT (and not knowing what faults it could have) about a Toyota Corolla you posted in this thread not long ago.

    You said however because it was a Toyota and generally reliable that it shouldn't need much to pass. Not quite sure why you don't use the same theory here with the Saab?

    As you say without an NCT it's not bangernomics is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,525 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    166man wrote: »
    Kind of contradicting yourself here John. I brought up the exact point you're bringing up now about a car needing an NCT (and not knowing what faults it could have) about a Toyota Corolla you posted in this thread not long ago.
    That car I posted had four months NCT left which isn't a lot I admit but it's certainly a good bit more than what's on that SAAB which only has 3 weeks left on the NCT.

    166man wrote: »
    You said however because it was a Toyota and generally reliable that it shouldn't need much to pass. Not quite sure why you don't use the same theory here with the Saab?
    It's simple the SAABS aren't as reliable and will cost more to put right compared with the Corolla should an issue arise.

    166man wrote: »
    As you say without an NCT it's not bangernomics is it?
    That particular Saab isn't IMO as it only has a few weeks test left.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭166man


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    That car I posted had four months NCT left which isn't a lot I admit but it's certainly a good bit more than what's on that SAAB which only has 3 weeks left on the NCT.



    It's simple the SAABS aren't as reliable and will cost more to put right compared with the Corolla should an issue arise.



    That particular Saab isn't IMO as it only has a few weeks test left.

    NCT until 04/07/13. Well inside the three month gap to be retested again.

    Admittedly the Saab would of course cost more to maintain but I'm questioning why a Toyota with no NCT* is acceptable but a Saab isn't. Would it not be fair to assume that the seller of that Corolla has no intentions of putting it through the NCT possibly because it has issues?

    I just think that this idea that because it's a Toyota it deserves to be in here with/without and NCT is fairly ridiculous but you very quickly slam down the possibility of the Saab being entitled to be here.


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