Tesco alcohol policy

Todd Gack · 06-05-2013 09:16PM

looking_around wrote: »

You can't even get an age card if you're over 21. Age card is for 18's-21's only fcukers

Eh, no it isn't, you just have to be over 18.

ResearchWill · 06-05-2013 09:41PM

syklops wrote: »

And can be faked for less than a tenner.

Whats wrong with a passport?

There is nothing wrong with a passport. But the legislation in relation to supplying of drink only allows a statutory Defence that a age card was provided. So a pub or Tesco ask for ID and person provides passport, it turns out person under 18 then no Defence, if age card provided then Defence.

looking_around · 06-05-2013 09:44PM

Todd Gack wrote: »

Eh, no it isn't, you just have to be over 18.

Have you tried?

I tried to get one just under two years ago, and was told that I "won't need it/can't get one" as I was over 21.

Maybe it changed recently.

ResearchWill · 06-05-2013 09:47PM

looking_around wrote: »

Have you tried?

I tried to get one just under two years ago, and was told that I "won't need it/can't get one" as I was over 21.

Maybe it changed recently.

The only rule is you are over 18, there is not was there a maximum age.

the_syco · 06-05-2013 09:47PM

garv123 wrote: »

They also don't accept drivers licences..Passport and age card only.

I only have my passport on me when I'm abroad, and the age-card is about 13 years old at this stage! I may bring it with me for the lols, though. The fun thing will be that I now have a beard and shaved head. No reason to ever renew the age-card.

[url=http://www.agecard.ie/faqs.html]agecard.ie FAQ[/url] wrote:

Is there an expiry date on my Age Card?
No there is no expiry date on your Age Card.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... awesome.

Ms. Pingui · 06-05-2013 09:48PM

ResearchWill wrote: »

The only rule is you are over 18, there is not was there a maximum age.

Ya, I got one last year when I was 22.

looking_around · 06-05-2013 09:50PM

ResearchWill wrote: »

The only rule is you are over 18, there is not was there a maximum age.

THAT wasn't always the case. As age cards used to have expiry dates, and therefore 'couldn't' be used as ID once you wer over 21. (still were used, but it's only recently when that was changed.)

ResearchWill · 06-05-2013 09:50PM

In relation to not supplying if a person under is at till with person over 18. It's an offence to supply to a person who then gives it to a minor. If shop thinks that's going on then they must refuse. Tesco is a bit zealous but can't blame employee.
Most of the legislation and law is in this case http://courts.ie/judgments.nsf/6681dee4565ecf2c80256e7e0052005b/491cd9c28228ffbe802576bf004b7705?OpenDocument&Highlight=0,Waxy

ResearchWill · 06-05-2013 09:52PM

looking_around wrote: »

THAT wasn't always the case. As age cards used to have expiry dates, and therefore 'couldn't' be used as ID once you wer over 21. (still were used, but it's only recently when that was changed.)

Can you point at anything to back this up. Considering that an Age card is the only Defence to charge of supply to a minor and that a public should ID any person under 25 it would be silly for no one over 21 to be able to have one.

From the Age Card site, http://www.agecard.ie/faqs.html

I have an old style Age Card, is it still valid?
Yes, there is no expiry date on your old card. However, the last old style “black” age card ceased production in March 2007 and many establishments no longer accept it.
Is there an expiry date on my Age Card?
No there is no expiry date on your Age Card.
Is there an expiry date on my Application Form?

the_syco · 06-05-2013 09:55PM

ResearchWill wrote: »

Can you point at anything to back this up. Considering that an Age card is the only Defence to charge of supply to a minor and that a public should ID any person under 25 it would be silly for no one over 21 to be able to have one.

That was the case back in 2000 anyhoo's. Yes, very stupid, but that's how the Gardaí rolled back then...

keithclancy · 06-05-2013 10:02PM

Bloody hell ... just bring in a ID card.

I don't carry my passport around with me ..

gurramok · 06-05-2013 10:04PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I've never heard of anyone over 30 being asked though.

I'm over 30, i've never been refused alcohol here in Ireland.

But in Florida, at aged 37 I was asked for ID for a pint of beer from a bloke that must of been 10 years younger my age. I do look younger for my age but that young?!
It was a compliment showing him my passport of age

ResearchWill · 06-05-2013 10:05PM

the_syco wrote: »

That was the case back in 2000 anyhoo's. Yes, very stupid, but that's how the Gardaí rolled back then...

Just looked at the 1999 regs in force at the time no requirement that the person be over 18 and under 21.

4. (1) Any person who has attained the age of 18 years may apply for an age card.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1999/en/si/0004.html

New regs came in in 2007.

JimiTime · 06-05-2013 10:14PM

ResearchWill wrote: »

Legally the only ID that can protect a publican from prosecution is Garda ID. So a publican is correct to refuse unless such ID is produced.

What if you're a tourist? How the hell are they expected to have Garda ID?

ResearchWill · 06-05-2013 10:18PM

JimiTime wrote: »

What if you're a tourist? How the hell are they expected to have Garda ID?

I never said it was a clever law, in fact it was perfectly good untill it was amended. But that's the law and yes it can be an issue for tourists.

Ilyana 2.0 · 06-05-2013 10:19PM

I'm never ID'ed buying drink in Tesco, and I'm 21

The age card is very handy though, and definitely preferable to carrying your passport everywhere. I know that Tesco's policy is a bit ridiculous but if you know you're going to be buying drink there, just bring the ID and save yourself the hassle.

Herb Powell · 06-05-2013 10:28PM

Tweedle Dumb wrote: »

Personal i think we should go the american way, everyone carry ID and everyone get asked when buying booze, even if they are ninety, that way no one can be offended etc

No, that's absolutely stupid. If someone is clearly of age, it's a waste of time.

ResearchWill wrote: »

In relation to not supplying if a person under is at till with person over 18. It's an offence to supply to a person who then gives it to a minor. If shop thinks that's going on then they must refuse. Tesco is a bit zealous but can't blame employee.
Most of the legislation and law is in this case http://courts.ie/judgments.nsf/6681dee4565ecf2c80256e7e0052005b/491cd9c28228ffbe802576bf004b7705?OpenDocument&Highlight=0,Waxy

That's pretty stupid. How is it even properly enforceable?

SureYWouldntYa · 06-05-2013 10:30PM

before i was 18 i got asked for ID everywhere.

now i am 18, i want that "bitch please yes i am 18 moment" when i get my ID, but i havent been asked once since turning 18

Todd Gack · 06-05-2013 10:33PM

looking_around wrote: »

Have you tried?

I tried to get one just under two years ago, and was told that I "won't need it/can't get one" as I was over 21.

Maybe it changed recently.

Yeah I got one last year and I'm well over 21. As far as I know it was always that way as I know people who got them when they were first launched who were over 21. Sounds like you were fobbed off, the Gardai seemed to see it as an inconvenience the couple of times I tried to get one.

ResearchWill · 06-05-2013 10:37PM

Herb Powell wrote: »

No, that's absolutely stupid. If someone is clearly of age, it's a waste of time.

That's pretty stupid. How is it even properly enforceable?

That's a whole other issue, no one said our law makers knew what they are doing.

bennyl10 · 06-05-2013 10:47PM

ResearchWill wrote: »

In relation to not supplying if a person under is at till with person over 18. It's an offence to supply to a person who then gives it to a minor. If shop thinks that's going on then they must refuse. Tesco is a bit zealous but can't blame employee.
Most of the legislation and law is in this case http://courts.ie/judgments.nsf/6681dee4565ecf2c80256e7e0052005b/491cd9c28228ffbe802576bf004b7705?OpenDocument&Highlight=0,Waxy

Not true in-fact. A Parent/Guardian is allowed to buy alcohol for their child, providing it is consumed in the domestic home.

monkeysnapper · 06-05-2013 11:02PM

I work in aldi and were told if someone looks under 25 you have to ask for Id , they do mystery customers . Like other people have said if somebody els is with you ,you have to ask them for Id as well.

At end of day I agree with op , a bit of common sense goes a long way . But from my point of view if a person looks in their early 20s ill ask for Id because folks you should have it on you no excuses.
My bosses check the cameras. And pull you in on things.

About a month ago I was serving away and this young lady comes to till with 1 can of Guinness. I was so close to serving it to her, she looked around early 20s . I asked her at last min , " do you have Id " she said no. I said how old are you. She said 17 . I'm buying can for my mum for a recipe. I said no sorry I can't serve you. Turned out to be a mystery shopper from head office . Scared the life out of me.

Like I said common sense goes a long way but people remember jobs are hard to come by these days. You don't want to lose your job over something stupid.

Feathers · 06-05-2013 11:09PM

ResearchWill wrote: »

In relation to not supplying if a person under is at till with person over 18. It's an offence to supply to a person who then gives it to a minor. If shop thinks that's going on then they must refuse. Tesco is a bit zealous but can't blame employee.
Most of the legislation and law is in this case http://courts.ie/judgments.nsf/6681dee4565ecf2c80256e7e0052005b/491cd9c28228ffbe802576bf004b7705?OpenDocument&Highlight=0,Waxy

The case you linked to is about a girl getting into a pub & buying a bottle of beer, not someone buying beer at an off-licence & giving it to minors. (In the latter scenario an offence is committed, but by the person buying the alcohol, not by the seller.)

ResearchWill · 06-05-2013 11:23PM

Feathers wrote: »

The case you linked to is about a girl getting into a pub & buying a bottle of beer, not someone buying beer at an off-licence & giving it to minors. (In the latter scenario an offence is committed, but by the person buying the alcohol, not by the seller.)

Yes but it lays out in general the legal framework about supply to any person under 18. Just to make it clear I think its an over reaction by any retailer not to supply to a person with an Age Crd just because the person with them has none.

If I remember a certain retailer in the UK refused to supply a mother as her toddler was with her at the time.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1314888/Supermarket-refuses-sell-father-bottle-wine-ID-daughter-8.html

http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/4625626.Store_refuses_to_sell_alcohol_to_Dorset_mum_shopping_with_son/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1955793/Tesco-ban-on-alcohol-sales-to-parents.html

ResearchWill · 06-05-2013 11:26PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

Not true in-fact. A Parent/Guardian is allowed to buy alcohol for their child, providing it is consumed in the domestic home.

Sorry if I did not make myself clear, I was referring to a person who buys in a off licence, so as to supply it to a minor for their consumption. The if I give you a tenner will you pick me up bottle of buckfast situation. What goes on in the privacy of a person home in relation to parents or guardians allowing the consumption of alcohol, is thankfully currently not prohibited.

Galwayguy35 · 06-05-2013 11:44PM

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

before i was 18 i got asked for ID everywhere.

now i am 18, i want that "bitch please yes i am 18 moment" when i get my ID, but i havent been asked once since turning 18

Sure go to Tesco and they might ask ya for it.

Galwayguy35 · 06-05-2013 11:50PM

monkeysnapper wrote: »

I work in aldi and were told if someone looks under 25 you have to ask for Id , they do mystery customers . Like other people have said if somebody els is with you ,you have to ask them for Id as well.

At end of day I agree with op , a bit of common sense goes a long way . But from my point of view if a person looks in their early 20s ill ask for Id because folks you should have it on you no excuses.
My bosses check the cameras. And pull you in on things.

About a month ago I was serving away and this young lady comes to till with 1 can of Guinness. I was so close to serving it to her, she looked around early 20s . I asked her at last min , " do you have Id " she said no. I said how old are you. She said 17 . I'm buying can for my mum for a recipe. I said no sorry I can't serve you. Turned out to be a mystery shopper from head office . Scared the life out of me.

Like I said common sense goes a long way but people remember jobs are hard to come by these days. You don't want to lose your job over something stupid.

Would you have got sacked for selling her the can?

BOHtox · 07-05-2013 12:07AM

I think an even worse law is that you can't buy two items with paracetamol in it in the same purchase. I remember a guy came up to me with calpol+ for the kid and a panadol or something for him. The two would NOT both scan through. I couldn't not give them both to him as it was completely against my morals so I told him to queue up again and just keep the receipt for the stuff he had already bought, in case he was asked, and told him to just pay for the second paracetamol.

Serious nanny-state stuff in this country!

hfallada · 07-05-2013 12:16AM

I think some of the cashier like the sense of power for 15 seconds. I once seen a cashier in Dunnes forensically examining a Polish couples ID even through they were buying a bottle of wine and looked about 45

Toshi101 · 07-05-2013 12:17AM

this has probably been said but..
How does one decide what 25 looks like?

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