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Does Ireland still need an army?

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  • #122
    Todd Toddington III
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭Todd Toddington III


    MRnotlob606 wrote: »
    we should introduce conscription for a while get a few skangers off the streets

    Good idea, first we should teach them how to fire weapons properly, then maybe some hand to hand fighting, something like that IDF (krav magaw?) stuff. Then when their conscription is up back onto the streets with them where they can use all their new found skills to fight evil, or something


  • #123
    Tom_Cruise
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Tom_Cruise


    We do need the defence forces. Maybe it would be wise to change their role slightly, and make them so some work. I know from experience how little they actually do - its the dole in uniform. Assigning them tasks would be wise? Maybe they could paint schools, clean parks or help elderly.


  • #124
    Praetorian Saighdiuir
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    Tom_Cruise wrote: »
    We do need the defence forces. Maybe it would be wise to change their role slightly, and make them so some work. I know from experience how little they actually do - its the dole in uniform. Assigning them tasks would be wise? Maybe they could paint schools, clean parks or help elderly.

    What experience?

    What is your job?


  • #125
    boodiebhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭boodiebhoy


    I guess we can keep the army as long as the troika allow us to.


  • #126
    php-fox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭php-fox


    Of course we need them. Who's going to be collecting money from the banks if the army is gone.


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  • #127
    clairefontaine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    The army helps the banks to move cash don't they?

    I remember once during a bus strike in Ireland the army stepped in to help.


  • #128
    Local-womanizer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Local-womanizer


    Tom_Cruise wrote: »
    We do need the defence forces. Maybe it would be wise to change their role slightly, and make them so some work. I know from experience how little they actually do - its the dole in uniform. Assigning them tasks would be wise? Maybe they could paint schools, clean parks or help elderly.

    Ha, obviously you have little experience in what they actually do, unless you want to fill us in? Or is your experience 2 weeks in the DF before quitting?


  • #129
    Arcsin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭Arcsin


    php-fox wrote: »
    Of course we need them. Who's going to be collecting money from the banks if the army is gone.

    Without the army there the IRA will collect a lot of it.


  • #130
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Tom_Cruise wrote: »
    We do need the defence forces. Maybe it would be wise to change their role slightly, and make them so some work. I know from experience how little they actually do - its the dole in uniform. Assigning them tasks would be wise? Maybe they could paint schools, clean parks or help elderly.
    Sounds like you no jack **** about what the army does .


    There's about 10 ex Irish Defence Force organisations on Facebook with thousand's of members ,who all will have one thing in common and that is a pride in serving their country at home during the emergency of the troubles and abroad with the United Nations and as every soldier knows ,that cannot and never will be taken away by anybody .


  • #131
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    6000 UN troops are needed in Maliw I wonder if the government has the balls to volunteer the pdf?


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  • #132
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    6000 UN troops are needed in Maliw I wonder if the government has the balls to volunteer the pdf?
    I think there was recent mention in the media that Irish troops were in line to go there .


  • #133
    Yitzhak Rabin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    6000 UN troops are needed in Maliw I wonder if the government has the balls to volunteer the pdf?

    There's already an Irish contingent serving there training the Malian armed forces to help them secure their own country as we speak.

    I haven't heard anything official, but I do know that the Irish have a well-established record of serving in a peace-keeping role in war-torn countries in Africa (Congo, Eritrea, Chad and Liberia) so I would imagine there are people planning and costing a deployment there as we speak. I'd imagine cost, and whether or not some of our other European partners will commit are the major considerations as to whether a peace-keeping force will be deployed there.


  • #134
    Praetorian Saighdiuir
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    Minister Shatter has voiced that he would consider sending Irish troops to Mali, should the U.N request them.

    Link


  • #135
    Morpheus
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 2,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Morpheus


    Irish soldiers are ALREADY serving in Mali.

    Under British command.

    They went there in March and are doing excellent work training members of Malis national army in international military best practices.

    Its a small team thats gone over initially as part of a 200 strong british team. We train on courses in the UK with them, they train here with us so it makes sense.

    Shatter is talking about sending an Irish Battalion overseas to Mali as part of a UN mission.


  • #136
    Jawgap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Might need the Army after all......;)


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