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Who would have been better than the Brits as colonists?

  • 26-04-2013 06:17PM
    #1
    dd972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭


    Another foray into AH Flak Central.

    Supposing the English/Brits never bothered with Ireland and say, the French ran things instead for X amount of years or for instance we were part of the Spanish Netherlandish empire like the Dutch were, how do you think things would have been different or better or worse than how things turned out?


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  • #2
    artanevilla
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    Wouldn't have taken as long to be free. French would have surrendered straight away.


  • #3
    Sunnyisland
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    The Germans seem to be doing quite nicely with it :-)


  • #4
    Pilotdude5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Pilotdude5


    The Swiss


  • #5
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    As colonial empiricists go, the Brits were far from the worst, probably close to the best.


  • #6
    wendell borton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtzRUNyfgPo


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  • #7
    Standard Toaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,291 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    The Spanish have a 50% military bonus against native villages.


  • #8
    Albert E. Arkwright
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 78 ✭✭Albert E. Arkwright


    Well Irish politicians seem to be totally incapable of running our own country, never mind someone else's. Then again honest people don't go into Irish politics.


  • #9
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,606 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Jamaicans would have been cool.


  • #10
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    If Republic of Ireland had stayed on as part of the Empire then it wouldn't have the fallout from the Celtic Tiger/ Euro bail out scene but it would now be part of the whole UK austerity measure policy instead so basically swopping one dire economic situation for another ,probably less dire one .


  • #11
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Awaits British Empire apologists to attempt to talk up our colonisation and talk down the fight against it.


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  • #12
    Steve O
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭Steve O


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    Awaits British Empire apologists to attempt to talk up our colonisation and talk down the fight against it.

    Amazing that a lot of those apologists are Irish.


  • #13
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Steve O wrote: »
    Amazing that a lot of those apologists are Irish.

    They're a small but vocal bunch who'd very much have been the enemy of those who aspired to Irish Independence.


  • #14
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    artanevilla wrote: »
    Wouldn't have taken as long to be free. French would have surrendered straight away.
    Since the fall of Rome, the French have been the most successful land army in European history.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #15
    The Backwards Man
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    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    Awaits British Empire apologists to attempt to talk up our colonisation and talk down the fight against it.
    Cathal Cloch has spoken.



    :p


  • #16
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Since the fall of Rome, the French have been the most successful land army in European history.

    Get out of here with your facts Mr. Wibbs.

    The Sun, Jeremy Clarkson and neocon journalists said the French were surrender monkeys and that's good enough for me.


  • #17
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,057 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    The vikings should have had another crack at it after then knocked off Brian Boru. More blondes, state controlled natural resources, progressive, liberal society. Better than that other lot...


  • #18
    Albert E. Arkwright
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 78 ✭✭Albert E. Arkwright


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Since the fall of Rome, the French have been the most successful land army in European history.

    Is that why the Germans kicked their arse twice in real wars ? ;)


  • #19
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    Cathal Cloch has spoken.

    I don't get it!? Even after a google. :o


  • #20
    General Monck
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13 ✭General Monck


    I blame partition for the economic mess we're in. If the country wasn't divided in two by an international border, I don't think things would be half as bad.


  • #21
    TheLastMohican
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭TheLastMohican


    kneemos wrote: »
    Jamaicans would have been cool.

    Yeah Mon! And Lee Scratch Perry sitting in de Aras, exotic types of skunk and sensie being showcased in the Botanical Gardens and a Patois/Gaelic fusion being compulsary for all entry level jobs


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  • #22
    Hidalgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭Hidalgo


    The Spanish maybe, from a religious POV.
    They also gave equal rights to native South American's also afiak,


  • #23
    TheLastMohican
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭TheLastMohican


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    I don't get it!? Even after a google. :o

    Brush up on your Gaelic Chuck (Cathal) :D


  • #24
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    If only Brian Boru hadn't defeated the Vikings a thousand years ago.
    We could have been speaking Norwegian :(


  • #25
    dirtyden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    Albert E. Arkwright wrote: »
    Is that why the Germans kicked their arse twice in real wars ? ;)

    Which two wars did the Germans win?


  • #26
    sock puppet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭sock puppet


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Since the fall of Rome, the French have been the most successful land army in European history.

    To be fair, aren't Britain, Spain and France pretty much the only large European countries that have actually existed for most of European history?


  • #27
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Hidalgo wrote: »
    The Spanish maybe, from a religious POV.
    They also gave equal rights to native South American's also afiak,
    Only to the ones that lived. . .


  • #28
    ToddyDoody
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    America of course, native American.


  • #29
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    TheLastMohican wrote: »
    Brush up on your Gaelic Chuck (Cathal) :D

    I haven't a word of Irish. It wasn't funded in primary school in the north so I was way behind when we came south and was exempted.

    Cathal Cloch. I like it. I might take it as my re-reg name.


  • #30
    Funfair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Funfair


    We were lucky the Israelites didn't take us over.. IRA man suspected of being in a house on the Falls Road the whole street would be blown to bits...


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  • #31
    dd972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    Awaits British Empire apologists to attempt to talk up our colonisation and talk down the fight against it.

    I'm not sure Ruth Dudley Westbrit posts on Boards.ie, there's some fawning garbage online somewhere from her about how the Irish had qualities that made them interesting and the Scots had qualities that made them intellectually superior and more innovative than us.


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