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Is Drink Spiking an Urban Myth or big catch all excuse?

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  • #92
    Pumpkinseeds
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    Koptain Liverpool wrote: »
    Sounds like bollocks to me. LSD is hard enough to come by and people who have aren't going to go around trying to spike people's drinks with it.

    And will LSD even work if you put it in a pint???
    It was very easy to come by in the 90's. I don't know about how it works in alcohol but I was drinking coke and it works just fine in that I can tell you.


  • #93
    Stone Deaf 4evr
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    The genuine cases are a lot rarer than the hype would have you believe.
    There are people out there with sinister intentions, but I dont believe there are Johnny appleseed type figures roaming the country depositing pills in drinks for the craic either.


  • #94
    Hoop66
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    More's the pity


  • #95
    Seachmall
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    Koptain Liverpool wrote: »
    Sounds like bollocks to me. LSD is hard enough to come by
    It's not that hard, still widely available.
    And will LSD even work if you put it in a pint???
    It will yeah.


  • #96
    Koptain Liverpool
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    jaffacakesyum wrote: »
    Pretty stupid hearing people on here say "nope, absolutely doesn't happen" "no it's just a myth" "no, just stupid drunk girls"
    I know of one girl who got her drink spiked at 15. She wasn't drinking alcohol at the time and she was sexually assaulted afterwards. So it does happen. It's not a 'myth', it's just relatively rare.

    But it is mostly (99% of the time) stupid people who have drunk too much so it's time to change the idea that pubs are full of guys spiking drinks at the weekend.


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  • #97
    cheesefiend
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 780 ✭✭✭cheesefiend


    I'm really not sure how common it is but from my own experience I wouldn't say it never happens. One night myself and a few friends were in a club in Dublin, we were dancing and one of the girls had left her drink on the ledge of the dance floor. We were right beside it so I don't think she thought there was much danger. Then another friend just starts shouting at a guy who was standing over the ledge, he ran away and she grabbed the drink and and got rid of it. She had seen him drop something in it.

    Another friend was out and was drinking but not very much. Started feeling sick and went to the bathroom where she collapsed. She was paralysed but was aware of what was going on. The drink she had been holding had dropped and the glass smashed around her. She was there until staff at the end of the night had to break into her, paramedics were called and she was hospitalised. I can't remember what she was spiked with as its years ago now.

    I'm not saying it happens all the time but surely it happens occasionally.


  • #98
    jaffacakesyum
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    Koptain Liverpool wrote: »
    But it is mostly (99% of the time) stupid people who have drunk too much so it's time to change the idea that pubs are full of guys spiking drinks at the weekend.

    I would agree it's mostly people who have drunk too much. 99%? I don't know, you don't know either. We've no statistics on it. I would say it's the vast majority who are just drunk. I've thanked posts on this thread who have expressed this - that it's the majority but that drug spiking still does happen.

    It's the idiot posts about how it's a 'myth' and it 'absolutely doesn't happen' and it's just 'stupid drunk girls who can't handle their drink' that I take issue with.

    Like I said, the vast majority of the time it's probably just people drink too much. Other times, people have their drinks spiked with drink for the laugh by friends (i.e. extra spirits or shots in pints), and then the minority of the time it's spiking with drugs.


  • #99
    Medusa22
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    I haven't heard too many people say that their drink has been spiked, probably only a handful. I think that actual spiking is generally not a common occurrence. I have gotten absolutely pissed plenty of times when I was younger and often passed out and I've done some very stupid things but it never occurred to me to say that I had been spiked as an excuse, well it was usually incredibly obvious that I drank far too much anyway.


  • #100
    jaffacakesyum
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    Medusa22 wrote: »
    I haven't heard too many people say that their drink has been spiked, probably only a handful. I think that actual spiking is generally not a common occurrence. I have gotten absolutely pissed plenty of times when I was younger and often passed out and I've done some very stupid things but it never occurred to me to say that I had been spiked as an excuse, well it was usually incredibly obvious that I drank far too much anyway.

    Yeah same...I actually haven't heard any of my friends say they were spiked as an excuse. The only time I knew someone who was spiked was the girl I talked about earlier.


  • #101
    Freddy Smelly
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    i got spiked once with rohypnol in sligo back in 1998

    was very sick for a few days


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  • #102
    Blisterman
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    I've never once heard of anyone who wasn't drinking alcohol getting their a soft drink spiked. It's always "I had a few drinks, but not that much".

    The same amount of alcohol can affect you in different ways. You could drink 3 pints over a couple of hours and not even feel it. Drink the same amount of alcohol quickly on an empty stomach, and it can be a whole different story.


  • #103
    Ray Palmer
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    jaffacakesyum wrote: »
    Pretty stupid hearing people on here say "nope, absolutely doesn't happen" "no it's just a myth" "no, just stupid drunk girls"

    Ehh, it does happen. But I would agree strongly with the pharmacist poster and the post about friends working in the medical field.

    I have friends working as doctors and they see a lot of alcohol abuse and no, it's not just "stupid drunk girls" :rolleyes: But on the rare occasion they do find other substances in their blood stream apart from alcohol or weed to suggest drink spiking. But it is rare.

    I know of one girl who got her drink spiked at 15. She wasn't drinking alcohol at the time and she was sexually assaulted afterwards. So it does happen. It's not a 'myth', it's just relatively rare.


    The Rape Crisis Centre came out and said there was not ONE confirmed case. Sedative drugs are relatively difficult to get. Did the girl you know test positive for drugs proving that she was spiked?

    It isn't relatively rare in Ireland it has in fact never been proved to ever happen. That is beyond rare, it doesn't mean it is impossible to happen just it has never happened. You could say people didn't go to the guards but still statistically speaking there would be at least one case.


  • #104
    dogski
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    it definitely happens, but I have never witnessed it first hand.


  • #105
    13spanner
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    It does happen.

    A female friend of mine woke up in the morning after a night out, couldn't remember anything after 4 or 5 o' clock the day before. Hadn't drank that much during the night.

    A LOT of vomiting ensued the following day, and after a trip to the doctor it turns out it was most likely LSD. Scary stuff.


  • #106
    TwoShedsJackson
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    Anecdotal evidence being treated as fact seems to be a bigger problem.


  • #107
    Frank Black
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    TwoShedsJackson wrote: »
    Anecdotal evidence being treated as fact seems to be a bigger problem.


    Well, I have a friend whose brother works in the Central Statistics Office, and he was saying that it's totally acceptable to use anecdotal evidence as fact.


  • #108
    Seachmall
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    13spanner wrote: »
    It does happen.

    A female friend of mine woke up in the morning after a night out, couldn't remember anything after 4 or 5 o' clock the day before. Hadn't drank that much during the night.

    A LOT of vomiting ensued the following day, and after a trip to the doctor it turns out it was most likely LSD. Scary stuff.

    If it was LSD she wouldn't have been able to sleep for like 8 to 12 hours and she would've known within a short period of time that she was on acid (even if she'd never done it before and wouldn't have known what to expect). If she was with anyone they would definitely be able to distinguish between someone on acid and someone on something else (like alcohol or ecstasy or whatever drugs kids are spiking each other with these days).

    Also, if it was enough for her to blackout she probably wouldn't have been able to sleep for at least a day during which time she'd have been hallucinating, and probably panicking, nonstop.


  • #109
    Ray Palmer
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    dogski wrote: »
    it definitely happens, but I have never witnessed it first hand.
    Based on what?


  • #110
    TwoShedsJackson
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    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    Based on what?

    Based on sweet fu<k all, as usual.


  • #111
    13spanner
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    Seachmall wrote: »
    ... she'd have been hallucinating, and probably panicking, nonstop.

    She was doing that much anyway. Whatever it was, it was more than drink.

    She was a stranger to the place, would that make someone more of a target? :confused:


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  • #112
    Seachmall
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    13spanner wrote: »
    She was a stranger to the place

    If by "the place" you mean "reality" then it absolutely sounds like she was on acid.


  • #113
    13spanner
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    Seachmall wrote: »
    If by "the place" you mean "reality" then it absolutely sounds like she was on acid.

    Sounds about right. Acid, not even once :P


  • #114
    ahnowbrowncow
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    It's 100% a myth, has never happened before. Silly drunk girls.


  • #115
    jam_mac_jam
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    13spanner wrote: »
    It does happen.

    A female friend of mine woke up in the morning after a night out, couldn't remember anything after 4 or 5 o' clock the day before. Hadn't drank that much during the night.

    A LOT of vomiting ensued the following day, and after a trip to the doctor it turns out it was most likely LSD. Scary stuff.

    That is not really consistant with LSD, at all. So either the doctor doesn't know basic details of the drug or you or she made that story up.


  • #116
    13spanner
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    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    That is not really consistant with LSD, at all. So either the doctor doesn't know basic details of the drug or you or she made that story up.

    Or maybe I got it wrong? Would it be more consistent with acid tablets?


  • #117
    jam_mac_jam
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    13spanner wrote: »
    Or maybe I got it wrong? Would it be more consistent with acid tablets?

    Acid is LSD


  • #118
    13spanner
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    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    Acid is LSD

    Moral of the story: I need to get more familiar with illegal narcotics :pac:


  • #119
    danslevent
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    Pumpkinseeds wrote: »
    I had my drink spiked with LSD back in the 90's. Horrible experience. I take medication for epilepsy and was freaked out that there'd be a bad reaction. There was a large group of us at the table so it had to be someone that I knew that did it.

    I don't get why people would spike with stuff like LSD, obviously you like it yourself if you're buying it, why waste it on someone who isn't interested? Have a laugh with your friends in a forest somewhere instead ;)

    But maybe some people just get a sick humour out of seeing people freaking out.


  • #120
    jam_mac_jam
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    Funny how these stories are always happening to the third person...


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  • #121
    Zillah
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    13spanner wrote: »
    Moral of the story: I need to get more familiar with illegal narcotics :pac:

    Maybe you should just not repeat the half-baked memories of stories you never understood?


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