Clermont vs Munster buildup thread **read post one

Podge_irl · 20-04-2013 09:41PM

Clermont by 1-10

Except Clermont's bench is a he'll of an lot better than both quins or Munster's

.ak · 20-04-2013 09:44PM

True, but if they play to the above it doesn't really matter who's on the bench... One thing I took from the Quins game is there was no real decisive shape to the Munster team when they got in ascendency. They used Casey as a strike runner from time to time, but in reality it was just 15 lads running onto the ball with a bit venom. Hurley was crash balling like a flanker. With that in mind, I don't think you can look at the bench in the traditional sense and say 'That player can come on and make a difference,' rather it'll be '7 sets of fresh legs, thank you very much'.

neilmulvey · 20-04-2013 10:00PM

Clermont by 1-10

I expect Clermont to win and win comfortably. They have the players, an excellent coach and last year's defeat to Leinster will drive them on.

Bridge93 · 21-04-2013 12:16AM

Clermont by 1-10

.ak wrote: »

True, but if they play to the above it doesn't really matter who's on the bench... One thing I took from the Quins game is there was no real decisive shape to the Munster team when they got in ascendency. They used Casey as a strike runner from time to time, but in reality it was just 15 lads running onto the ball with a bit venom. Hurley was crash balling like a flanker. With that in mind, I don't think you can look at the bench in the traditional sense and say 'That player can come on and make a difference,' rather it'll be '7 sets of fresh legs, thank you very much'.

Yeah but clermonts 7 sets of fresh legs are far bigger stronger and better than munsters. And if Munster don't have shape they will be CRUCIFIED.

trouttrout · 21-04-2013 12:25AM

Bridge93 wrote: »

Yeah but clermonts 7 sets of fresh legs are far bigger stronger and better than munsters. And if Munster don't have shape they will be CRUCIFIED.

Said I'd bold it for even more dramatic effect

SomeFool · 21-04-2013 04:40AM

Who owns the scarves?? :pac:

Benny Cake · 21-04-2013 08:25AM

Munster by more than 10

SomeFool wrote: »

Who owns the scarves?? :pac:

Probably a few lads from Cappamore on a reconnaissance mission.....

TheVman · 21-04-2013 08:31AM

The cudmore poc reunion should be a cracker. He has a serious discipline problem which munster should play on. Toulouse won the second half yesterday with simple pick and go rugby.

CGD · 21-04-2013 09:37AM

Clermont by 1-10

TheVman wrote: »

The cudmore poc reunion should be a cracker. He has a serious discipline problem which munster should play on. Toulouse won the second half yesterday with simple pick and go rugby.

The opposite could also be said. POC needs to stay on the right side of Owens!

21-04-2013 09:58AM

CGD wrote: »

The opposite could also be said. POC needs to stay on the right side of Owens!

POC's a wiley oul cat. He wont be involved. These lads are on "Wind Up Cudmore" duty imo.

Clareman · 21-04-2013 10:19AM

budhabob · 21-04-2013 10:20AM

Munster by more than 10

Clareman wrote: »

Haha, love it.

duckysauce · 21-04-2013 11:53AM

Munster by more than 10

Benny Cake wrote: »

Probably a few lads from Cappamore on a reconnaissance mission.....

They were working late last night.

Quint2010 · 21-04-2013 12:22PM

Clermont by 1-10

IT reporting Rougerie is a doubt for next week..

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/rougerie-injury-a-concern-for-clermont-1.1367448?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

Tomtom364 · 21-04-2013 12:46PM

Munster by more than 10

Quint2010 wrote: »

IT reporting Rougerie is a doubt for next week..

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/rougerie-injury-a-concern-for-clermont-1.1367448?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

Rightwing · 21-04-2013 02:39PM

Munster by more than 10

Quint2010 wrote: »

IT reporting Rougerie is a doubt for next week..

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/rougerie-injury-a-concern-for-clermont-1.1367448?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook[/QUOTE]

I hope he's fit, I think he's a fantastic player, and let's beat Clermont at their best.

thomond2006 · 21-04-2013 04:48PM

Let's not hope players are injured now...

With King or Stanley to come in, Clermont have good replacements for Rougerie. It would be a big loss in leadership though, Rougerie is Clermont through and through.

yimrsg · 21-04-2013 04:56PM

The Rougerie article doesn't have much behind it. It doesn't cite any interview and only mentions what thomond2006 or myself said in the Top 14 thread about Rougerie coming off.

thomond2006 · 21-04-2013 04:57PM

yimrsg wrote: »

The Rougerie article doesn't have much behind it. It doesn't cite any interview and only mentions what thomond2006 or myself said in the Top 14 thread about Rougerie coming off.

I'd say he'll play even if he's on one leg!

Rightwing · 21-04-2013 04:59PM

Munster by more than 10

It'll make no great difference whether he's playing or not.

We need to get our own game right, if we do, we can win it.

thomond2006 · 21-04-2013 05:02PM

Rightwing wrote: »

It'll make no great difference whether he's playing or not.

We need to get our own game right, if we do, we can win it.

That's really not true, he has a similar effect on his team that POC has on Munster. It's a big deal if he's out, despite his replacements being very good.

Rougerie is one of my favourite players, I remember one Six Nations match against Scotland in Murrayfield where he tackled like a demon for 20 minutes and then had to go off, literally tackled himself off the pitch. Awesome player.

Rightwing · 21-04-2013 05:08PM

Munster by more than 10

thomond2006 wrote: »

That's really not true, he has a similar effect on his team that POC has on Munster. It's a big deal if he's out, despite his replacements being very good.

Rougerie is one of my favourite players, I remember one Six Nations match against Scotland in Murrayfield where he tackled like a demon for 20 minutes and then had to go off, literally tackled himself off the pitch. Awesome player.

I really rate him too, but POC is far more important to Munster than Rougerie is to Clermont.

jamiedav2011 · 21-04-2013 05:08PM

Rightwing wrote: »

It'll make no great difference whether he's playing or not.

We need to get our own game right, if we do, we can win it.

Clermont's captain not playing will make no great difference?! Explain that one to me.

thomond2006 · 21-04-2013 05:12PM

Rightwing wrote: »

but POC is far more important to Munster than Rougerie is to Clermont.

That may be so, but to suggest that the Clermont captain not playing makes no difference is nonsense to be honest!

Rightwing · 21-04-2013 05:13PM

Munster by more than 10

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

Clermont's captain not playing will make no great difference?! Explain that one to me.

It's quite easy explaining

Munster's captain was missing v Quins, let's just say it wasn't exactly detrimental.

I'm at a loss why some people are so overawed by a captain being out.

jamiedav2011 · 21-04-2013 05:14PM

Rightwing wrote: »

It's quite easy explaining

Munster's captain was missing v Quins, let's just say it wasn't exactly detrimental.

I'm at a loss why some people are so overawed by a captain being out.

Ah stop will you, he's of similar standing to POC in Clermont.

Utter nonsense, no logic whatsoever.

yimrsg · 21-04-2013 05:17PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

That's really not true, he has a similar effect on his team that POC has on Munster. It's a big deal if he's out, despite his replacements being very good.

Rougerie is one of my favourite players, I remember one Six Nations match against Scotland in Murrayfield where he tackled like a demon for 20 minutes and then had to go off, literally tackled himself off the pitch. Awesome player.

http://www.rugbydump.com/2010/02/1284/aurelien-rougeries-big-hitting-four-minutes-vs-scotland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45XtzpJtc1U

I'd liken him to BOD at Leinster in terms of importance to Clermont.

Rightwing · 21-04-2013 05:17PM

Munster by more than 10

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

Ah stop will you, he's of similar standing to POC in Clermont.

Utter nonsense, no logic whatsoever.

I diagree, I think Clermont have far too many threats across the squad for any 1 player to be a big loss. They are too good a team to miss any 1 player.

thomond2006 · 21-04-2013 05:17PM

Rightwing wrote: »

It's quite easy explaining

Munster's captain was missing v Quins, let's just say it wasn't exactly detrimental.

I'm at a loss why some people are so overawed by a captain being out.

We're not talking about the captaincy, you're going off on a tangent here.

Rougerie is a magnificent player and the embodiment of the team, being captain or not being captain doesn't affect that. There are numerous examples of this, BOD at Leinster for one.

thomond2006 · 21-04-2013 05:18PM

yimrsg wrote: »

http://www.rugbydump.com/2010/02/1284/aurelien-rougeries-big-hitting-four-minutes-vs-scotland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45XtzpJtc1U

I'd liken him to BOD at Leinster in terms of importance to Clermont.

Never knew that was on youtube, thanks!

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