Farming Chit Chat II

1chippy · 17-04-2013 09:04PM

The O H works in a bank and says that branch managers have little or no say in loans anymore due to the amount of back scratching and look after the buddy era that we went through with the celtic tiger. everything has to be processed now and criteria is sticky. often comes home and asks me what the different farming terms mean. Farmers have to remember that a lot of the people in the banks would not know a heifer from a combine and are usually left to work completly off no.s because they dont realise what is happening or some dont even want to understand.

IPFree · 17-04-2013 09:14PM

hugo29 wrote: »

have a cow with a pinky red discharge, seems to be getting worse last couple days, she is calved approx 2 weeks, anyone come across this previously

Could be she is cleaning some retained afterbirth. Any smell off of it? Or temperature? She may just need a washout but if worsens get a vet.

tismesoitis · 18-04-2013 11:27AM

just after finishing reading herd test all clear thank god so its off to the mart on tuesday to lighten the load. vet also scaned 23 cows all pd+ bar 3 so very happy with that. also scaned 5 heifers that we implanted with parthenaise embryos and have 3 of them incalf so not a bad result there either. land is unreal wet its as if there is no soakage at all water table must be seriously higher than any normal year!!

bbam · 18-04-2013 11:29AM

Here's one lads/lassies..

I have a Fr bull calf..
All went well, weaned, eating plenty of 19% crunch + straw + water and thriving.
Moved out with the group to open area with grass and was fine for a week..

I noticed he was getting slow to the trough, getting thin and generally depressed looking..
No temperature, no cough, no snotty nose, no sores in mouth..
Duings like an elephant, still drinks water.

I brought him back into a pen on his own..
His appetite is gone, eating less than 1kg meal and I tried barley, beef nut and calf crunch.. pulls at hay but doesnt eat any ammount.

Gave him a multi vit and sulpha powders for two days feeling it was a stomach "thing".. but no change..

I've started to bottle him with milk & eggs in the evenings to build him up again, but he still has no interst in meal... If there were grass I'd cut some and bring it in..but no!!

Any ideas folks... Just seems like a sudden loss in appetite?

whelan1 · 18-04-2013 11:47AM

maybe give a life aid or two... what age is he?

vanderbadger · 18-04-2013 11:54AM

bbam wrote: »

Here's one lads/lassies..

I have a Fr bull calf..
All went well, weaned, eating plenty of 19% crunch + straw + water and thriving.
Moved out with the group to open area with grass and was fine for a week..

I noticed he was getting slow to the trough, getting thin and generally depressed looking..
No temperature, no cough, no snotty nose, no sores in mouth..
Duings like an elephant, still drinks water.

I brought him back into a pen on his own..
His appetite is gone, eating less than 1kg meal and I tried barley, beef nut and calf crunch.. pulls at hay but doesnt eat any ammount.

Gave him a multi vit and sulpha powders for two days feeling it was a stomach "thing".. but no change..

I've started to bottle him with milk & eggs in the evenings to build him up again, but he still has no interst in meal... If there were grass I'd cut some and bring it in..but no!!

Any ideas folks... Just seems like a sudden loss in appetite?

had a big strong weanling that went like that last year, his coat went off color even, brought him in, vet reckoned BVD, (their answer for anything they cant explain now)he wouldnt eat anything much only pulling at hay without eating it although he would eat a bit of meal, it kept him alive i think, he lost a heap of condition, dosed him with every type of wormer i had, rumen fluke the lot, anyway he came out of it very slowly, it wasnt bvd anyway, maybe rumen fluke but none of his companions went off like him so dont really know what happened, oh and his mouth was frothy initially but that went

whelan1 · 18-04-2013 11:56AM

got a lend of a fertiliser spreader off my neighbour, so fertiliser is going out, was fed up looking at it in shed, as someone said yesterday , it wont grow anything in the shed, he even gave me his tractor too:D going to cost 1000 tofix my own spreader:eek:

Timmaay · 18-04-2013 12:14PM

whelan1 wrote: »

going to cost 1000 tofix my own spreader:eek:

Jesus, must be a big enough spreader? All these unexpected repairbills as such all add up and don't make the current tight enough money situation with feedbills etc any easier, I've got hit with too many over the last few months, the scrapers in the winter, starters and afew other things on both tractors, slurry spreader just now.

Box09 · 18-04-2013 12:15PM

Thats small money to you Whelan....:D

whelan1 · 18-04-2013 12:17PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Jesus, must be a big enough spreader? All these unexpected repairbills as such all add up and don't make the current tight enough money situation with feedbills etc any easier, I've got hit with too many over the last few months, the scrapers in the winter, starters and afew other things on both tractors, slurry spreader just now.

was on to bank man this morning... am not going to fix fert spreader , will pick one up on dd, i would guess agood bit of the 1000 is labour, also need new tyres for tractor, my car is on its last legs........:(

dzer2 · 18-04-2013 12:18PM

whelan1 wrote: »

got a lend of a fertiliser spreader off my neighbour, so fertiliser is going out, was fed up looking at it in shed, as someone said yesterday , it wont grow anything in the shed, he even gave me his tractor too:D going to cost 1000 tofix my own spreader:eek:

Is it worth doing that seriously

I thought the wind last night had killed ye all off

quick question OH seen an add for pet lambs so rang up and your man said he was working on a sheep farm and that they didnt have that new disease and they were not letting any one on the farm so the lambs couldnt be picked up at the farm. but he was selling the lambs for the farmer and he could meet her with the lambs when the young lads go rugby training in the evening.

What do you think.:rolleyes::cool:

whelan1 · 18-04-2013 12:23PM

Box09 wrote: »

Thats small money to you Whelan....:D

i bought it for 1000 euro a few years ago! its a 2 tonne lely centreliner

dzer2 · 18-04-2013 12:29PM

whelan1 wrote: »

was on to bank man this morning... am not going to fix fert spreader , will pick one up on dd, i would guess agood bit of the 1000 is labour, also need new tyres for tractor, my car is on its last legs........:(

How much do you want for it Whelan as I am fairly handy at fixing things

dont know if that says I am fairly handy at breaking things too:p

whelan1 · 18-04-2013 12:31PM

dzer2 wrote: »

How much do you want for it Whelan as I am fairly handy at fixing things

dont know if that says I am fairly handy at breaking things too:p

dunno yet...... just want to get this fertiliser out to take some of the pressure off

Dozer1 · 18-04-2013 12:49PM

the wind played havoc around us yesterday, greenhouse I gave 2 bank holiday Mondays putting up got flattened and it was a good sturdy one, OH and myself are disgusted, I'd it bolted to a concrete base but it just got ripped apart further up.

big tree flattened aswell down the road aswell so took longer to get home, can this weather just p*ss off for awhile:(

geros29 · 18-04-2013 01:32PM

dzer2 wrote: »

Is it worth doing that seriously

I thought the wind last night had killed ye all off

quick question OH seen an add for pet lambs so rang up and your man said he was working on a sheep farm and that they didnt have that new disease and they were not letting any one on the farm so the lambs couldnt be picked up at the farm. but he was selling the lambs for the farmer and he could meet her with the lambs when the young lads go rugby training in the evening.

What do you think.:rolleyes::cool:

Schmallenberg spread from biting midges,unlikely you carrying dem around in your pocket!sounds fair dodgy 2me.

reilig · 18-04-2013 01:54PM

18,000 cattle exported January to April 2012
50,000 cattle exported January to April 2013

Hopefully it will help cattle prices all around in the coming months!!

AntrimGlens · 18-04-2013 02:10PM

Took a dozen spring lambs to mart yesterday - 21kg @ £104.00, better than last week i took 6 @ 24kg got £98. I wasn't there to represent them so i know rightly that the auctioneer just banged them down early but given the amount of meal thats in them i think i might consider forgetting it as an enterprise.

Dampintheattic · 18-04-2013 02:43PM

reilig wrote: »

18,000 cattle exported January to April 2012
50,000 cattle exported January to April 2013

Hopefully it will help cattle prices all around in the coming months!!

Not to mention the fact, that there has been a big increase in on farm deaths, this year compared to last year.

dzer2 · 18-04-2013 02:50PM

AntrimGlens wrote: »

Took a dozen spring lambs to mart yesterday - 21kg @ £104.00, better than last week i took 6 @ 24kg got £98. I wasn't there to represent them so i know rightly that the auctioneer just banged them down early but given the amount of meal thats in them i think i might consider forgetting it as an enterprise.

Meal is far too expensive someone making a killing but its not us.:(

Username John · 18-04-2013 03:04PM

AntrimGlens wrote: »

Took a dozen spring lambs to mart yesterday - 21kg @ £104.00, better than last week i took 6 @ 24kg got £98. I wasn't there to represent them so i know rightly that the auctioneer just banged them down early but given the amount of meal thats in them i think i might consider forgetting it as an enterprise.

Hi Antrim Glens,

Your weights of 21kg & 24kg - how are these weights calculated? I noticed on the markethill mart reports as well...

I lambed earlier last year (January) to aim for the higher Spring prices, but I felt it wasn't worth it either.
Altho, I will admit, that I was guilty of using meal to cover up poor grass management as much as anything else...

AntrimGlens · 18-04-2013 03:35PM

Username John wrote: »

Hi Antrim Glens,

Your weights of 21kg & 24kg - how are these weights calculated? I noticed on the markethill mart reports as well...

I lambed earlier last year (January) to aim for the higher Spring prices, but I felt it wasn't worth it either.
Altho, I will admit, that I was guilty of using meal to cover up poor grass management as much as anything else...

They put each batch through the bridge and always take a kill out % as 50% - thereby effectively penalising those who are better at grass management as they would kill out at a higher % than those meal fed diets. Maybe as low as 46% of a carcase of a young lamb fed meal will be the bone out rate, whereas May - Aug lambs on grass would kill out around 53%

Muckit · 18-04-2013 04:13PM

reilig wrote: »

18,000 cattle exported January to April 2012
50,000 cattle exported January to April 2013

Hopefully it will help cattle prices all around in the coming months!!

I wonder how those figures break down? Were they calves, weanlings or cattle moving north of border?

Conmaicne Mara · 18-04-2013 04:25PM

dzer2 wrote: »

Meal is far too expensive someone making a killing but its not us.:(

Talk of it to come down in April but merchant said no sign of it happening yet.

dzer2 · 18-04-2013 04:35PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Talk of it to come down in April but merchant said no sign of it happening yet.

That would be nice might reduce my 1k a week feed bill.

whelan1 · 18-04-2013 05:08PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Talk of it to come down in April but merchant said no sign of it happening yet.

at least mgo has come down

Conmaicne Mara · 18-04-2013 05:14PM

whelan1 wrote: »

at least mgo has come down

mgo?

Juniorhurler · 18-04-2013 05:17PM

Marked gas oil or green diesel

solerina · 18-04-2013 06:09PM

geros29 wrote: »

Schmallenberg spread from biting midges,unlikely you carrying dem around in your pocket!sounds fair dodgy 2me.

totally agree...reckon the lambs are possibly stolen, no other reason not to allow them be seen at the farm...avoid like the plague I reckon !!

delaval · 18-04-2013 06:49PM

whelan1 wrote: »

got a lend of a fertiliser spreader off my neighbour, so fertiliser is going out, was fed up looking at it in shed, as someone said yesterday , it wont grow anything in the shed, he even gave me his tractor too:D going to cost 1000 tofix my own spreader:eek:

Don't spend it trade it in instead sounds like a huge amount for a spreader. Is it a new gearbox?

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