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Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread II

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  • #6122
    thomond2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Rightwing wrote: »
    Looking at the Rabo table, we've only 1 BP. A very unusual stat.

    http://www.rabodirectpro12.com/matchcentre/table.php

    We have six?


  • #6123
    Rightwing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    http://www.rabodirectpro12.com/matchcentre/table.php

    We have six?

    I better quickly delete that post then :)

    That's more like it, table I was looking at was in the I Times.


  • #6124
    TheVman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭TheVman


    anyone know (or is it known) who's reffing the clermont munster match in montpellier ?


  • #6125
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    TheVman wrote: »
    anyone know (or is it known) who's reffing the clermont munster match in montpellier ?

    Isn't it usually around 10 days before the game they announce the refs in order to make sure there's no injuries and they are available?

    There isn't anyone attached to it yet anyway http://www.ercrugby.com/eng/matchcentre/heineken_cup.php?section=overview&fixid=174198


  • #6126
    athtrasna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    At least it can't be a French ref! Though after Saturday night I'm also adding Nigel Owens to my "please no" list!


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  • #6127
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    It'll be Wayne Barnes


  • #6128
    ConFurioso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 378 ✭✭ConFurioso


    vader.jpg


  • #6129
    Rightwing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    Barnes isn't bad. I'd settle for him.


  • #6130
    Lelantos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Lelantos


    Rightwing wrote: »
    Barnes isn't bad. I'd settle for him.

    I wouldn't complain too much about Barnes, at least he keeps talking to the players & explains what he's doing & why he's doing it.


  • #6131
    molloyjh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,779 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    ConFurioso wrote: »
    vader.jpg

    That'd be Clermonts reaction as well....


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  • #6132
    the_blackstuff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭the_blackstuff


    athtrasna wrote: »
    At least it can't be a French ref! Though after Saturday night I'm also adding Nigel Owens to my "please no" list!

    Really thought Owens was bad myself on Saturday night. He missed downey taking out bod. He seemed to ref munster and leinster differently at the breakdown. Leinster seemed to be off their feed, in from the side and generally slow on their own ball. Missed leinster closing the line out a couple of times. And at scrum time i think he was very good to us, especially with killers binding. Haven't watched the match back but that's the way it seemed to me there. Barnes won't let the game flow as much which might not be a bad thing!


  • #6133
    athtrasna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    the_blackstuff wrote: »
    Really thought Owens was bad myself on Saturday night. He missed downey taking out bod. He seemed to ref munster and leinster differently at the breakdown. Leinster seemed to be off their feed, in from the side and generally slow on their own ball. Missed leinster closing the line out a couple of times. And at scrum time i think he was very good to us, especially with killers binding. Haven't watched the match back but that's the way it seemed to me there. Barnes won't let the game flow as much which might not be a bad thing!

    Missed attempted eye gouging too!


  • #6134
    .ak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    athtrasna wrote: »
    Missed attempted eye gouging too!

    Did you pick that up off twitter? Because I don't think that's correct, or fair really.


  • #6135
    jamiedav2011
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭jamiedav2011


    athtrasna wrote: »
    Missed attempted eye gouging too!

    What? The explanation for this should be interesting.


  • #6136
    athtrasna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    jamiedav2011 wrote: »
    What? The explanation for this should be interesting.

    A medic friend was chatting to the players after the game - she's not one for making things up.


  • #6137
    Mahatma Geansai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭Mahatma Geansai


    athtrasna wrote: »
    A medic friend was chatting to the players after the game - she's not one for making things up.

    Well I'm sure you can both expand on and provide proof of your accusations so.


  • #6138
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Folks,

    Conversations with friends/people who know/etc. etc. can't be used to backup speculation, please share a link to a reputable news source backing up your claims.


  • #6139
    jamiedav2011
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭jamiedav2011


    athtrasna wrote: »
    A medic friend was chatting to the players after the game - she's not one for making things up.

    Oh well that settles that then!

    Can you back that up in any way or give a timeframe/players involved?

    Mod Snip


  • #6140
    finatron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭finatron


    athtrasna wrote: »
    Missed attempted eye gouging too!

    What is an attempted eye gouge? If you don't put your fingers in the eye then your not gouging your just feeling someones face.
    Who are the players involved ?
    I was at the game and have watched the recording didn't spot anything


  • #6141
    jamiedav2011
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭jamiedav2011


    phog wrote: »
    Let's be very clear, there isn't a Mod Snip incident, that was Curate's Egg stirring things on twitter.

    That's why I'm asking for clarification, as that's the only gouging incident I've even heard of, even if it's a very tenuous accusation.

    If Athtrasna can give us more info rather than just 'he said she said' it might become clearer.


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  • #6142
    Rightwing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    I don't think there was any element of gouging whatsoever. Ok, there's rivalry and intensity, but all the players are above that imo. Might have been something accidental but that would be all.


  • #6143
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Folks, lets not drag this down a rabbit hole, and as there's no proof or media article lets not name the players, eye gouging is a very serious offence and it's not fair on players to drag their names through the mud.


  • #6144
    athtrasna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    Apologies, wasn't trying to cause trouble and deliberately didn't name the player. Owens missed plenty of rule breaking on both sides, Healy's knock on for the Kearney non try, and loads of other stuff. I used to rate him as a referee but in the last 12 months he's had a few howlers.


  • #6145
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,978 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I do think Owens is a bit on the slide, which is worrying given the paucity of top class refs out there.


  • #6146
    jamiedav2011
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭jamiedav2011


    Clareman wrote: »
    Folks, lets not drag this down a rabbit hole, and as there's no proof or media article lets not name the players, eye gouging is a very serious offence and it's not fair on players to drag their names through the mud.

    It certainly is and i can see why you've edited names, though I would question then why allow the original poster to make such an accusation without any semblance of proof or backup, and not explain it in any way other than 'well my friend said it'?

    Why mention it at all if you 'weren't trying to cause trouble'?! I mean what was the expectation?


  • #6147
    athtrasna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    jamiedav2011 wrote: »
    It certainly is and i can see why you've edited names, though I would question then why allow the original poster to make such an accusation without any semblance of proof or backup, and not explain it in any way other than 'well my friend said it'?

    Why mention it at all if you 'weren't trying to cause trouble'?! I mean what was the expectation?

    It was mentioned in the context of why I'm hoping Nigel doesn't get the semi. He's not as on the ball as he used to be.


  • #6148
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,978 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    athtrasna wrote: »
    It was mentioned in the context of why I'm hoping Nigel doesn't get the semi. He's not as on the ball as he used to be.

    I'm unsure who would be better mind. Barnes?


  • #6149
    Swan Curry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Swan Curry


    It seems to have gotten to the point where every ref available is crap at some aspect of refereeing the game.Are we being too critical of them,or is there an issue with how the IRB train their referees?


  • #6150
    Bridge93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Bridge93


    the_blackstuff wrote: »
    Really thought Owens was bad myself on Saturday night. He missed downey taking out bod. He seemed to ref munster and leinster differently at the breakdown. Leinster seemed to be off their feed, in from the side and generally slow on their own ball. Missed leinster closing the line out a couple of times. And at scrum time i think he was very good to us, especially with killers binding. Haven't watched the match back but that's the way it seemed to me there. Barnes won't let the game flow as much which might not be a bad thing!

    Also missed Varley off his feet for the first Munster try, Healy knock on, Kearney try from the knock on, Kearney taken out in the air and the POC kick!


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  • #6151
    athtrasna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    Non French or Irish Refs/Assistants used in the Heineken Cup this season include:

    Waynes Barnes (Eng), Greg Garner (Eng), JP Doyle (Eng), Neil Paterson (Sco), Leighton Hodges (Wal) and Nigel Owens (Wal).

    Not exactly an inspirational list, think I've missed a few too but it's going to be interesting when the officials are announced bearing in mind there can be no French refs that weekend.


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