Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread II

Riskymove · 15-04-2013 02:14PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Other than saying "it's a very different scenario" are there any reasons why it is different? That's what's baffling. It's completely inconsistent!

a stamp is illegal regardless of where you make contact but a deliberate stamp on the head would be a particularly frowned on act

POC attempted to play a ball he was entitled to

I also dont agree that the same type of contact was made either

I also note that the post match thread has been closed over this issue, so maybe we shouldn't just carry on here

EDIT: posted before I saw Mod note

athtrasna · 15-04-2013 09:10PM

The lack of update on DOC is worrying. Awaiting further medical examination??? Why wasn't he scanned Saturday night or yesterday or even today?

The look on his face on Saturday night reminded me of Wally when Tuilagi took him out in the World Cup warm up, he knew he was not going to NZ, his face still haunts me (Wally is my all time favourite player). Would love to think DOC will be ok in time for the semi but I seriously doubt we'll see him again this season.

durkadurka · 15-04-2013 09:17PM

Who would be on the bench as second row cover if he isn't there?

trouttrout · 15-04-2013 09:18PM

durkadurka wrote: »

Who would be on the bench as second row cover if he isn't there?

Nagle or Holland, probably Holland

budhabob · 15-04-2013 09:35PM

trouttrout wrote: »

Nagle or Holland, probably Holland

Is nagle in the hec squad?

totallegend · 15-04-2013 09:36PM

budhabob wrote: »

Is nagle in the hec squad?

Nope
http://www.ercrugby.com/eng/matchcentre/munster_rugby.php?section=2

Who the hell is 'Grant Gilchrist'?

Tox56 · 15-04-2013 09:38PM

totallegend wrote: »

Nope
http://www.ercrugby.com/eng/matchcentre/munster_rugby.php?section=2

Who the hell is 'Grant Gilchrist'?

A Scottish lock with very similar stats to Nagle, could that be him?

Rightwing · 15-04-2013 09:40PM

I wouldn't be too worried about not have DOC available. If we had lost both POC & DOC then it was a crisis situation.

shuffol · 15-04-2013 09:41PM

Some strange weight statistics in there, Dave Foley is the same weight as Keatley. Dougalls listed as being 17st

totallegend · 15-04-2013 09:42PM

Tox56 wrote: »

A Scottish lock with very similar stats to Nagle, could that be him?

Ha, yeah he's listed on the Edinburgh squad as well, knew the name was familiar:
http://www.ercrugby.com/eng/matchcentre/edinburgh.php?section=2

So maybe Nagle is in the HC squad.

Edit: No, he's not:
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/10879.php

PhatPiggins · 15-04-2013 09:51PM

Rightwing wrote: »

I wouldn't be too worried about not have DOC available. If we had lost both POC & DOC then it was a crisis situation.

We'll need 23 men to beat Clermont

phog · 15-04-2013 09:54PM

athtrasna wrote: »

The lack of update on DOC is worrying. Awaiting further medical examination??? Why wasn't he scanned Saturday night or yesterday or even today?

.

Maybe they had to wait on swelling to reduce. I think he knows himself he's gone, hope not.

athtrasna · 15-04-2013 10:11PM

Rightwing wrote: »

I wouldn't be too worried about not have DOC available. If we had lost both POC & DOC then it was a crisis situation.

No news on Donnacha Ryan either...was he just being rested? I'm sure the commentators on Saturday night referred to him being injured.

Rightwing · 15-04-2013 10:15PM

athtrasna wrote: »

No news on Donnacha Ryan either...was he just being rested? I'm sure the commentators on Saturday night referred to him being injured.

Ya, he badly needed a rest. Before the match I'd have liked to have seen a few more rested, but we came out of it not too bad.

Chabals Beard · 15-04-2013 10:36PM

Just a note on injuries, Peter O Mahoney plays with a complete lack of respect for his own health, he was throwing his head at tackles towards the end because he was so tired.

thomond2006 · 15-04-2013 10:44PM

Rightwing wrote: »

Ya, he badly needed a rest. Before the match I'd have liked to have seen a few more rested, but we came out of it not too bad.

I'm sure it is difficult for the coaches to find the balance between cotton wooling players and leaving them undercooked. If most of the Heineken starters had not played for two weeks that would have equally been a risk (remember RWC07!). Assuming the kids are sent to Newport, I think it has worked out ok. It's unfortunate that DOC may be a casualty, thankfully for Munster his probable loss is mitigated by POC's availability.

ormond lad · 15-04-2013 10:48PM

athtrasna wrote: »

No news on Donnacha Ryan either...was he just being rested? I'm sure the commentators on Saturday night referred to him being injured.

He was being rested after games the past few weeks.
Was in Nenagh Friday night and did a training session with one of the nenagh u/age sides I believe and was in the club for AIL game saturday

Rightwing · 15-04-2013 11:11PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

I'm sure it is difficult for the coaches to find the balance between cotton wooling players and leaving them undercooked. If most of the Heineken starters had not played for two weeks that would have equally been a risk (remember RWC07!). Assuming the kids are sent to Newport, I think it has worked out ok. It's unfortunate that DOC may be a casualty, thankfully for Munster his probable loss is mitigated by POC's availability.

I would fully agree with that. I would have thought he may have rested some for the Leinster game and played a near strength team v the dragons. But I do appreciate that that wouldn't have gone down well with the general public or the IRFU.
But as you say, it has worked out well for us.

We are unrecognisable from a few weeks back. Roll on Clermont.

athtrasna · 15-04-2013 11:42PM

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/penney-plays-down-o-connell-incident-before-confirmation-filters-through-1.1361201

Phew...report says Donncha's knee issue is understood not to be structural. Won't know til later in the week how long he'll be out..could be 1/2 weeks

TheVman · 16-04-2013 06:29AM

athtrasna wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/penney-plays-down-o-connell-incident-before-confirmation-filters-through-1.1361201

Phew...report says Donncha's knee issue is understood not to be structural. Won't know til later in the week how long he'll be out..could be 1/2 weeks

4 Weeks according to radio 1 this morning

buck65 · 16-04-2013 08:13AM

Don't think o Callaghan would be starting anyway if Ryan is Ok. None of the first 15 bar O Gara should play this weekend. Would like to see Keatley play full back or centre too.

Lelantos · 16-04-2013 08:15AM

Have just seen that James Rael has left for Connacht, surprised at that as I thought he was highly thought of & at 20 yo, a bright future ahead of him.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 16-04-2013 08:39AM

Lelantos wrote: »

Have just seen that James Rael has left for Connacht, surprised at that as I thought he was highly thought of & at 20 yo, a bright future ahead of him.

He is highly thought of. The problem is that Casey and Scanell are also highly rated and seem to be ahead of him (based on them having played B&I cup rugby and Rael not.)

thomond2006 · 16-04-2013 08:40AM

Lelantos wrote: »

Have just seen that James Rael has left for Connacht, surprised at that as I thought he was highly thought of & at 20 yo, a bright future ahead of him.

Casey and Scannell both got development contracts, so that probably pushed Rael out. Sherry, Varley (I assume?!), Casey and Scannell will be in the squad next year.

thomond2006 · 16-04-2013 08:47AM

IN: Andrew Conway (Leinster)

OUT: Marcus Horan (retirement), James Rael (Connacht), Sean Henry (Connacht), Peter Stringer (Bath), Sean Scanlon (Rotherham Titans)

Is that all the confirmed transfers so far? (I'm not including promotions from the academy.)

Lelantos · 16-04-2013 09:07AM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Casey and Scannell both got development contracts, so that probably pushed Rael out. Sherry, Varley (I assume?!), Casey and Scannell will be in the squad next year.

Probably correct, Connacht are offering a development contract to him. Do Casey & Scannell both show more potential?

phog · 16-04-2013 09:07AM

thomond2006 wrote: »

IN: Andrew Conway (Leinster)

OUT: Marcus Horan (retirement), James Rael (Connacht), Sean Henry (Connacht), Peter Stringer (Bath), Sean Scanlon (Rotherham Titans)

Is that all the confirmed transfers so far? (I'm not including promotions from the academy.)

Barnes?

thomond2006 · 16-04-2013 09:08AM

phog wrote: »

Barnes?

That's not confirmed anywhere.

Lelantos · 16-04-2013 09:09AM

phog wrote: »

Barnes?

Nothing signed so far with Barnes, still all conjecture afaik

Rightwing · 16-04-2013 09:23AM

Looking at the Rabo table, we've only 1 BP. A very unusual stat.

Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread II

Comments