Clermont vs Munster buildup thread **read post one

MugMugs · 15-04-2013 03:41PM

I am dying for this game.

Yes, there's a good chance you lads are going to be mauled into the ground but there's also a chance that you come good and swipe a win from ASM.

Look at the defence on Saturday from the red.

27 Phases and it took BOD to get through.

With the likes of Zebo out wide and hopefully Keatley and O'Gara paired up 10/11 We could see some nice fast play with points earned off the boot.

Best of luck

twinytwo · 15-04-2013 03:49PM

Munster by more than 10

MugMugs wrote: »

I am dying for this game.

Yes, there's a good chance you lads are going to be mauled into the ground but there's also a chance that you come good and swipe a win from ASM.

Look at the defence on Saturday from the red.

27 Phases and it took BOD to get through.

With the likes of Zebo out wide and hopefully Keatley and O'Gara paired up 10/11 We could see some nice fast play with points earned off the boot.

Best of luck

Tbf i nearly cried when he came up to the ball, you could see he was going to go straight for the post, and all my shouting at the tv wouldnt make botha move to the left:(

JRant · 15-04-2013 03:56PM

Clermont will go after ROG in a big way if he starts. Similar to the way Cudmore took Boss out in last years game, I fully expect them to shake his bones hard and repeatedly. In all honesty I fully expect Clermont to be especially 'hard' against them as they will have seen the way Munster played against us and wont stand for half the messing that the Leinster team did. Munster are a dirty/niggly team but getting into an arm wrestle with Clermont wouldn't be a great idea.

I'd love to see Munster win but think Clermont will win by 14+

CrowdedHouse · 15-04-2013 03:59PM

Munster by more than 10

Munster to win *

* I have almost zero interest in rugby but I like voting in polls

Fireball07 · 15-04-2013 04:13PM

Munster by 1-10

Can't see us winning tbqh.....Clermont are very very very good. If we have everyone possible available, then we do have a very slight chance. It will require heroic defence, an extremely solid set-piece and absolutely no mistakes, taking points at every available opportunity.

Even then, the odds are stacked against us. Clermont have so much depth, so many good players...pace, power, skill, a strong set-piece. Out-half would seem to be their only discernible weakness, we have to get at whoever starts there and hope he has an off-game.

But I'm dreading seeing the likes of Rougerie, Fofana, etc. running at ROG's channel.

I was going to say "still, stranger things have happened..." but no, they haven't. If we win away in France against this Clermont side, with this particular team...it will be the greatest result in Munster's history, bar none. I really really hope we can do it. POC leading a furious pack, Murray sweeping the ball wide for some Zebo magic...you never know.

(I am a Sunderland fan, after last weekend, I believe in miracles)

Rightwing · 15-04-2013 04:20PM

Munster by more than 10

Fireball07 wrote: »

Can't see us winning tbqh.....Clermont are very very very good. If we have everyone possible available, then we do have a very slight chance. It will require heroic defence, an extremely solid set-piece and absolutely no mistakes, taking points at every available opportunity.

Even then, the odds are stacked against us. Clermont have so much depth, so many good players...pace, power, skill, a strong set-piece. Out-half would seem to be their only discernible weakness, we have to get at whoever starts there and hope he has an off-game.

But I'm dreading seeing the likes of Rougerie, Fofana, etc. running at ROG's channel.

I was going to say "still, stranger things have happened..." but no, they haven't. If we win away in France against this Clermont side, with this particular team...it will be the greatest result in Munster's history, bar none. I really really hope we can do it. POC leading a furious pack, Murray sweeping the ball wide for some Zebo magic...you never know.

(I am a Sunderland fan, after last weekend, I believe in miracles)

Good post, we need to starve them of possession for long periods.

awec · 15-04-2013 04:21PM

Clermont by 1-10

Is ROG even sure to be playing? No chance of Keatley at 10?

Podge_irl · 15-04-2013 04:22PM

Clermont by 1-10

I'd be quite worried about Clermont's bench actually. Sheer aggression can get you quite far but its quite taxing. I don't think Quins had anywhere near the same kind of bench to take advantage of a tiring Munster.

Chabals Beard · 15-04-2013 04:26PM

Imagine if we actually won .. There would anarchy in France

MugMugs · 15-04-2013 04:27PM

Podge_irl wrote: »

I'd be quite worried about Clermont's bench actually. Sheer aggression can get you quite far but its quite taxing. I don't think Quins had anywhere near the same kind of bench to take advantage of a tiring Munster.

Their bench is almost as scary as their starting 15 in most cases.

I'd say Munster tactics will be attempt to suppress them once they get a few points on the board.

Rightwing · 15-04-2013 04:29PM

Munster by more than 10

Chabals Beard wrote: »

Imagine if we actually won .. There would anarchy in France

There'd probably be more anarchy here!

almighty1 · 15-04-2013 04:30PM

Clermont by 1-10

Chabals Beard wrote: »

Imagine if we actually won .. There would anarchy in France

Chabal would shave his beard off in fury.

Chabals Beard · 15-04-2013 04:32PM

almighty1 wrote: »

Chabal would shave his beard off in fury.

Don't even joke about that .. Sometimes things can be taking too far, and you my friend, have crossed that line . For shame, for shame !!!

Buer · 15-04-2013 04:37PM

Understandably cagey squad update from Munster. Earls and Howlett continue to recover but neither will feature against Dragons. DOC is the only serious casualty from the weekend and requires further assessment.

In closing, people might be fit for Clermont.

Or they might not.

Podge_irl · 15-04-2013 04:39PM

Clermont by 1-10

You could hardly put Earls or Howlett straight into the team for Clermont at this point so? They've been out too long. Though I guess they would potentially strengthen the bench but that's bad news.

Grimebox · 15-04-2013 04:52PM

Clermont by 1-10

So is it Keatley or ROG at 10? I would have assumed ROG will start with him being rested last week. I haven't seen enough of Keatley to give a proper opinion but he seemed fairly decent against Leintser

Podge_irl · 15-04-2013 05:14PM

Clermont by 1-10

It's irrelevant, ROG will start. He was actually alright against quins. Alright won't be good enough against Clermont though.

trouttrout · 15-04-2013 05:15PM

Podge_irl wrote: »

It's irrelevant, ROG will start. He was actually alright against quins. Alright won't be good enough against Clermont though.

Come on, he was good against Quins

Tox56 · 15-04-2013 05:20PM

trouttrout wrote: »

Come on, he was good against Quins

Not in the first half, better in the 2nd half but I would start Keatley

Mahatma Geansai · 15-04-2013 05:35PM

totallegend wrote: »

If the reports that POC is not to be cited turn out to be accurate, Munster will have been handed a massive and grossly unfair boost. I think I'm going to find myself cheering for Clermont.

Did you cheer for Northampton in 2011? SOB being involved in the final was surely a massive and grossly unfair boost by your standards.

who_me · 15-04-2013 05:40PM

Munster by more than 10

Tox56 wrote: »

Not in the first half, better in the 2nd half but I would start Keatley

The one "plus" for Keatley (well, 2 if you count ability to tackle, or 3 if you include attacking ball in hand), is if they select Keatley, Clermont could take almost all their analysis footage of Munster this season and dump it. The Leinster game is the first good chance to see Keatley's game.

I thought Quins would play a smarter game in the QF; we've often struggled ball in hand with slow phase play and little penetration so I expected them to kick deep into our half, let us have the ball and run out of ideas. As it happened, our lineout got the upper hand giving us an easy way out of half - they panicked a bit there.

The question for me is: will Clermont try to bash their way through us (which I'd love to see, as it's our best hope of stopping them), or kick deep, and force us to play out of our half. I'd be very worried if that happens.

Buer · 15-04-2013 05:41PM

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

Did you cheer for Northampton in 2011? SOB being involved in the final was surely a massive and grossly unfair boost by your standards.

It was absolutely. Politics were the only reason he was involved. The ERC didn't want its showpiece going ahead without its blue ribbon winner.

who_me · 15-04-2013 05:41PM

Munster by more than 10

totallegend wrote: »

Right, back to the game so.

People have been queuing overnight in Clermont to get tickets:

You'd suspect that these are not the sort of guys to be selling them on to Munster fans... A great occasion in prospect.

Not one Munster jersey in that queue. #Disappointed.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 15-04-2013 05:45PM

Clermont by 1-10

who_me wrote: »

Not one Munster jersey in that queue. #Disappointed.

Just because they don't want to wear it in Clermont. Half the que are probably Munster men

:p

15-04-2013 05:47PM

who_me wrote: »

Not one Munster jersey in that queue. #Disappointed.

#UnderCover #CuteHoors at play.

Rent a jersey for a day...

JRant · 15-04-2013 05:56PM

If Clermont can get turnover ball and Munster persist with having forwards lurking on the wings then it'll be curtains.

The best Munster can hope for is a bit a rain, a blind ref at the breakdown (see Nige on Sat night) and a large slice of luck. Even with all that it might not be enough but feck it, i'll be a "Lunster" supporter for the night and hoping for the win.

who_me · 15-04-2013 06:00PM

Munster by more than 10

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Just because they don't want to wear it in Clermont. Half the que are probably Munster men :p

Deleted User wrote: »

#UnderCover #CuteHoors at play.

Rent a jersey for a day...

Je voodray un "ticket" poor le Munster match, sih voo play..

Wee, wee, je swee Clermont fan! Long temps!

totallegend · 15-04-2013 06:03PM

Clermont by 1-10

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

Did you cheer for Northampton in 2011? SOB being involved in the final was surely a massive and grossly unfair boost by your standards.

Interesting point.

Citing commissioner that day was independent, not an IRFU employee, afaik.

Tox56 · 15-04-2013 06:04PM

who_me wrote: »

The one "plus" for Keatley (well, 2 if you count ability to tackle, or 3 if you include attacking ball in hand), is if they select Keatley, Clermont could take almost all their analysis footage of Munster this season and dump it. The Leinster game is the first good chance to see Keatley's game.

I thought Quins would play a smarter game in the QF; we've often struggled ball in hand with slow phase play and little penetration so I expected them to kick deep into our half, let us have the ball and run out of ideas. As it happened, our lineout got the upper hand giving us an easy way out of half - they panicked a bit there.

The question for me is: will Clermont try to bash their way through us (which I'd love to see, as it's our best hope of stopping them), or kick deep, and force us to play out of our half. I'd be very worried if that happens.

Penney's master plan unveiled... ROG was playing more flat v Quins but in the first half his passing wasn't accurate enough and he was doing more harm than good by being that flat. As I say he improved but Keatley is surely the better option at this stage, if for nothing else but the element of surprise..

Podge_irl · 15-04-2013 06:35PM

Clermont by 1-10

trouttrout wrote: »

Come on, he was good against Quins

To be fair, you're right. He was good. Everyone across the board (except POC) will have to raise their game from that performance though.

I wasn't really trying to have a cut at him anyway (though I realise it may come across that way), I just think that Penney has nailed his colours to the mast on the 10 thing and ROG will start no matter what Keatley does (good or bad). And in the most important game of the season so far it actually worked quite well. I wouldn't rely on Clermont have as big a problem in the lineout though, which is where Munster made a lot of hay against Quins.

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